Reputation with 'The Rotten Willow'

[🔥Shadowspawn🔥]

How are you supposed to get any positive reputation with the Rotten Willow Tavern?

[Heindal]

Some items, mostly quest items, can be given to the occultist, sitting on one of the tables. Here is the catch: you have to give the quest items away to finish the mission. So given them to the occultist will increase your reputation with rotten willow, but will reduce your reputation with one of the towns for failing the mission. Maybe it's possible to use a trick to get these quest items, but I never tried.

I so far just found one exception - the occultist cloak. It is not a quest item and you can give it to the occultist as well.

[DacianDraco]

By bringing some of the quest items and unique items to the the Occultist. What i know so far:
1. Necromancer Staff (a very rare unique dropped by the Necromancer, 1k REP 2k gold)
2. Occult Cloak (a very rare unique dropped by any Crimson Cult leader, 500 REP 1k gold)
3. Pagan Amulet (Crimson dungeon quest item for Source of Corruption, 250 REP 500 gold)
4. Phylactery (Shadow dungeon quest item for Return of the Necromancer, 250 REP 500 gold)
5. Forbidden Grimoire (Shadow dungeon quest item for Stolen Grimoire, 250 REP 500 gold)
6. "Old Census Records" (Crimson dungeon quest item for Forgotten Tome, 50 REP 250 gold)

I've tried taking to him many more quest items, several that are holy ones found in Crimson and Shadow Covenant dungeons or the ones in Brigand dungeons but he won't take them.

Also if you take the Contract and give the quest item to him instead of the Elder you will fail the Contract after the X days when it expires, and you lose REP with that town. It's -400 REP for each of the Pagan Amulet, Phylactery, Forbidden Grimoire items and -500 for "Monastery Records" item.

And you have to take the Contract and fail it if you want to not lock yourself out of Contracts for that dungeon and lock out of Contracts in general in that town, because you get only one and if you don't take it you can't take others after it.

[Degaden]

Originally posted by DacianDraco:

By bringing some of the quest items and unique items to the the Occultist. What i know so far:
1. Necromancer Staff (a very rare unique dropped by the Necromancer, 1k REP 2k gold)
2. Occult Cloak (a very rare unique dropped by any Crimson Cult leader, 500 REP 1k gold)
3. Pagan Amulet (Crimson dungeon quest item for Source of Corruption, 250 REP 500 gold)
4. Phylactery (Shadow dungeon quest item for Return of the Necromancer, 250 REP 500 gold)
5. Forbidden Grimoire (Shadow dungeon quest item for Stolen Grimoire, 250 REP 500 gold)
6. "??? golden book" (Crimson dungeon quest item for Forgotten Tome, 50 REP ??? gold)

That's really nice. Thx for sharing.

Originally posted by DacianDraco:

Last one i can't remember the name or how much gold, but it's not much anyway and he reluctantly takes it as bedtime reading. Also there are two of these books for the Crimson dungeon quests, both as far as remember have dates but he only takes the "golden book" and not the "orange book". The other brown book is the Grimoire from Shadow dungeon.

As you already know, the dungeon name changes for every new playthrough. In my case one is called forbidden Cells. The name of the item was in my case monastery chronicles and it gives 250 Crowns.

Originally posted by DacianDraco:

Also if you take the Contract and give the quest item to him instead of the Elder you will fail the Contract after the X days when it expires, and you lose REP with that town. It's -400 REP for each of the Pagan Amulet, Phylactery, Forbidden Grimoire items and -500 for "golden book" item.

And even thou some ppl said you can not take the Contracts in order to not lose REP and just do the dungeon because it will respawns, i've heard that it doesn't respawn until you eventually take the contract and fail it. I haven't tried not taking Contracts, so i don't know the exact details, but if it doesn't respawn know that you can make it respawn by taking and failing it.

I did this now and I will see, if that really happens. Besides the newest survival update has a change in the respanwn of items in front of the entrances from graves and places with corpses in front. So I am curious what will happen.

[DacianDraco]

I didn't use specific dungeon names i used umbrella ones, you could call them Undead dungeons, Vampire dungeons, etc the idea is the same.

And you have to take the Contract and fail it if you want to not lock yourself out of Contracts for that dungeon and lock out of Contracts in general in that town, because you get only one and if you don't take it you can't take others after it.

Also thanks for the name and gold reward i was missing from the list, i've edited them in.

[Degaden]

Originally posted by DacianDraco:

And you have to take the Contract and fail it if you want to not lock yourself out of Contracts for that dungeon and lock out of Contracts in general in that town, because you get only one and if you don't take it you can't take others after it.

So, if don't take the contract and fail it I won't be able to take another contract in that city, is that right?

I already took the Monastery records and brought it to the Occultist. Can I still take the contract and fail it? If that's a critical point, I can't play further without accidently deleting my current safe files.

Seems to be, that I have to wait for your answer before playing again.

[DacianDraco]

Yes, in your case when you get to the Forgotten Tome contract it won't go away from Elder. So you have to "take" it and wait or sleep X days until it fails. Then you can "take" the other Brigand and Undead dungeons contracts in that town, and in up to 7 days a new one for the Vampire dungeon will appear too. Otherwise you will only see that Forgotten Tome contract, and well you can do the Brigand and Undead dungeons contracts even if can't "take" them but will get only a part of the reward (i think it's 1/2 or 1/4) for doing "untaken" contracts.

[Degaden]

Ah, what a pain. Thank you very much.

[Degaden]

Originally posted by DacianDraco:

I didn't use specific dungeon names i used umbrella ones, you could call them Undead dungeons, Vampire dungeons, etc the idea is the same.

And you have to take the Contract and fail it if you want to not lock yourself out of Contracts for that dungeon and lock out of Contracts in general in that town, because you get only one and if you don't take it you can't take others after it.

Also thanks for the name and gold reward i was missing from the list, i've edited them in.

I made a mistake. It's not monastery records, but monastery chronicles. Man,, I am not even able to fulfill such an easy task. Damn. I already edited my former answer. I hooe you can change records into Chronicles.

[Biggus Dickus]

I think, (i have not confirmed it, needs further testing) that if you clear one of the contracts locations before taking the contract you may be able to find the item that you have to take back to the quest giver.

I'm saying that because i've found the monastery records and some amulet and i didn't have any active contract at the moment, but as soon as i grabbed the quest item the journal updated and i could take the reward from the quest giver, that happened only in osbrook in one of the dungeons surrounding the city. Maybe it's a bug, idk.

It might require some save scumming btw.

[Degaden]

Originally posted by Biggus Dickus:

I think, (i have not confirmed it, needs further testing) that if you clear one of the contracts locations before taking the contract you may be able to find the item that you have to take back to the quest giver.

I'm saying that because i've found the monastery records and some amulet and i didn't have any active contract at the moment, but as soon as i grabbed the quest item the journal updated and i could take the reward from the quest giver, that happened only in osbrook in one of the dungeons surrounding the city. Maybe it's a bug, idk.

It might require some save scumming btw.

Okay, if there isn't any quest regarding the rotten Willow taverns items than it is a whole other sitatuion in regard to the situation we had.

[DacianDraco]

Originally posted by Biggus Dickus:

I think, (i have not confirmed it, needs further testing) that if you clear one of the contracts locations before taking the contract you may be able to find the item that you have to take back to the quest giver.

I'm saying that because i've found the monastery records and some amulet and i didn't have any active contract at the moment, but as soon as i grabbed the quest item the journal updated and i could take the reward from the quest giver, that happened only in osbrook in one of the dungeons surrounding the city. Maybe it's a bug, idk.

It might require some save scumming btw.

Yes you can get the items without the Contracts, but the Contracts will not go away, i explained with example in my last msg why. And this can happen with all Contracts that you do without taking the Contract first or at all, you can claim the reward but it's reduced.