Elusiveness op ?

[Neo]

Am I the only one who think Elusiveness is kinda broken rn ?
With my build I have 100% dodge during 1O turn with elusiveness and when the skill stop i can just recast it and here we go i'm a ghost.
I dont even have to buy top tier knight gear in Bryn bcs all i need is energy to keep elusiveness going.

The only reason I beat the Troll is thx to elusiveness

Maybe a solution to balance the skill is to halve the dodge bonus after the first turn you cast it, it will still be a good spell but not game breaker.

Tell me what you think

[Heau]

between dodge taking half instead of none, and the fact that you lose a stack with every dodge, it didn't seem OP at all. But I can see how it is quite strong in 1v1 scenarios like the Troll. But in a more typical life or death scenario against like 3-4 units bad pull, it'll give you 3-5 more dodged hits that you wouldn't have otherwise dodged within ~2-3 turns max.

[Neo]

I have my character with 20 point in agility, i mean I can literaly fight totally naked and have 40% dodge ( with passive ability given by skills ) I have an armor that give me 15% dodge, the elf marchant sell some gear that increase even more dodge chance, i'm sure you can reach the 60% dodge chance easily (even that is broken imo). you add to that the fact that you can just have a 10 turn dodge buff, I swear I can 1v5 the top tier enemies naked without taken more than 2 hit

[funkmonster7]

Any dodge % above 100% will lower enemy's accuracy. So yes, potentially you can cause enemies to miss the first attack. However, Elusive's stacks will drop with every attack you receive, whether it's a whiff or a fumble. So, against the Troll you can't win with just Elusive, you need an actual killing strategy. So, Elusive isn't exactly OP, but it allows you to survive for a few turns and depending on your killing strategy, it might make Elusive look OP because it enables you to execute your killing strategy.

If your killing strategy sucks then Elusive only delays your death.

Also, Elusive sucks against multiple opponents. I prefer Deflect when facing multiple opponents in melee.

[Tekvorian]

Good to know that elusiveness works against the Troll. I was getting desperate to kill it with my melee character

[Neo]

Btw when I fought the Troll i manage to dodge every single of his basic attacks, but he still damaged me like 8 damage every time i dodge (instead of 34 with no dodge), maybe because he is considered as a boss

[Drewsko]

missed attacks get turn into fumble attacks ( less damage) / fumbled attacks turn into complete misses. (something like that lol))

[Herflik]

Yeah dodge was nerfed to reduce the dmg from full to fumble and fumble to miss. It can be really strong, that is for sure true if you stack dodge from other sources too. Though there are also strong options for block to negate damage. Armor after the remake sems much weaker than before and harder to understand (especialy how does the x% physical resistance work now, it is only for the gear part or whole body?).

[Drewsko]

i think they wrote that it is only per the part of the body that is struck. The whole body total armor sum was divided to make people with power armor less strong.

[Rak]

Dodge was nerfed, not as strong as it used to be, you need to supplement your dodge with skills that increase your enemies fumble chance to completely miss attacks, I still still get damaged a lot with my 75% base dodge character if I'm not applying skills that increase their fumble chance. Also like the other guy posted Elusiveness is strong in 1v1 scenarios but kinda meh when fighting multiples enemies don't get me wrong tho it's 1stack is still nice to have when fighting 6 enemies at once.