Not a roguelike

[Luh Wyte Nazgul]

Don't buy if you're looking for a traditional roguelike, steamlike (garbage like Dreadmore/Midboss), roguelite, or hardcore rpg. If you're looking for an fun rpg type game and want to test/see the development of it's alpha go for it.

I was iffy on purchasing after seeing a coupon linked to Darkest Dungeon, which is possibly the BIGGEST scam in the history of gaming. Even though this game has barely in it in it's current state at least it has more content than DD!

Right now there's not really a point in doing anything but killing the animals in forests since that's the best way to get gold. I played for like 6 hours and didn't even get a green item to drop, my stuff was all from the shops/enchanting scrolls. I do like the game and wish there was more to do in it. Don't shy away from buying the game if you're reading people complaining about it being hardcore because these people are noobs. And if you are dying or having trouble try not worry because you'll get the hang of it, don't feed the trolls who are saying to git gud because these people are just random noobs and have nothing to do with the spirit of aristocracy and elitism in roguelikes.

Congrats to the devs on the EA release and I will be looking foward to the future updates!

[Delita]

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Originally posted by Delita:

If a game doesn't have a win its not a roguelike. All true roguelikes have win conditions.

Ok I'm gonna pop into this idiotic conversation. Roguelikes all have one thing in common, and that is if you fail you have to restart from the beginning. Nothing carries over, a complete reset.

Yes Permadeath is part of it. But there is more to what qualifies as a roguelike vs. another genre. But that dude said roguelikes have no win condition, thats the complete opposite. I cant think of a complete roguelike that doesnt have a win condition, and I play alot of roguelikes.

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

Originally posted by Delita:

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Ok I'm gonna pop into this idiotic conversation. Roguelikes all have one thing in common, and that is if you fail you have to restart from the beginning. Nothing carries over, a complete reset.

Yes Permadeath is part of it. But there is more to what qualifies as a roguelike vs. another genre. But that dude said roguelikes have no win condition, thats the complete opposite. I cant think of a complete roguelike that doesnt have a win condition, and I play alot of roguelikes.

I don't think Cataclysm DDA has a win condition, from my experience it's just to see how long you can live in a zombie apoc.

[doGfoodliD]

OP has failed to justify why he does't think this is a Roguelike in every response.

as he stated.

Originally posted by Lord of Angband:

Well if you have to ask what sort of gameplay specifics I look for to classify why bother arguing what is and what isn't in the first place?

Op expects everyone to make their point, without justifying their own.
Typical Boomer mentality.

[PunyMagus]

I bet any (traditional) roguelike developer would call this game a (traditional) roguelike

[Luh Wyte Nazgul]

Originally posted by Delita:

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Ok I'm gonna pop into this idiotic conversation. Roguelikes all have one thing in common, and that is if you fail you have to restart from the beginning. Nothing carries over, a complete reset.

Yes Permadeath is part of it. But there is more to what qualifies as a roguelike vs. another genre. But that dude said roguelikes have no win condition, thats the complete opposite. I cant think of a complete roguelike that doesnt have a win condition, and I play alot of roguelikes.

based

Originally posted by doGfoodliD:

OP has failed to justify why he does't think this is a Roguelike in every response.

as he stated.

Originally posted by Lord of Angband:

Well if you have to ask what sort of gameplay specifics I look for to classify why bother arguing what is and what isn't in the first place?

Op expects everyone to make their point, without justifying their own.
Typical Boomer mentality.

cringe

[Delita]

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Originally posted by Delita:

Yes Permadeath is part of it. But there is more to what qualifies as a roguelike vs. another genre. But that dude said roguelikes have no win condition, thats the complete opposite. I cant think of a complete roguelike that doesnt have a win condition, and I play alot of roguelikes.

I don't think Cataclysm DDA has a win condition, from my experience it's just to see how long you can live in a zombie apoc.

Thank you you are right. I also remembered that Unreal World doesn't have a win condition as well. But by and large they do have win conditions.

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

Originally posted by Delita:

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

I don't think Cataclysm DDA has a win condition, from my experience it's just to see how long you can live in a zombie apoc.

Thank you you are right. I also remembered that Unreal World doesn't have a win condition as well. But by and large they do have win conditions.

So you'd say they were just exceptions to the rules hmm? Ah whatever, it ain't like your view of the subject hurts me.

[Delita]

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Originally posted by Delita:

Thank you you are right. I also remembered that Unreal World doesn't have a win condition as well. But by and large they do have win conditions.

So you'd say they were just exceptions to the rules hmm? Ah whatever, it ain't like your view of the subject hurts me.

Oh for sure. Id classify both personally as Survival/Roguelikes. Since they blend the two together. But they are definitely roguelikes. and I cant think of any others that dont have win conditions, but I can think of a ton that do.

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

Originally posted by Delita:

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

So you'd say they were just exceptions to the rules hmm? Ah whatever, it ain't like your view of the subject hurts me.

Oh for sure. Id classify both personally as Survival/Roguelikes. Since they blend the two together. But they are definitely roguelikes. and I cant think of any others that dont have win conditions, but I can think of a ton that do.

Dwarf fortress maybe? It's one of the originals.

[Delita]

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Originally posted by Delita:

Oh for sure. Id classify both personally as Survival/Roguelikes. Since they blend the two together. But they are definitely roguelikes. and I cant think of any others that dont have win conditions, but I can think of a ton that do.

Dwarf fortress maybe? It's one of the originals.

The adventure mode is roguelike-ish, but its not really a game per se. Its just another way to experience the world you've generated. The fortress mode is a game, but its not a roguelike.

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

Originally posted by Delita:

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Dwarf fortress maybe? It's one of the originals.

The adventure mode is roguelike-ish, but its not really a game per se. Its just another way to experience the world you've generated. The fortress mode is a game, but its not a roguelike.

Adventure mode, not a game? XD It's huge, gigantic and you can wrestle dragons choke monsters with loinclothes etc. Adventure Mode is such an amazing experience that saying it isn't a game on its own is insanity! Entire youtube series are based around adventure mode.

[Delita]

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Originally posted by Delita:

The adventure mode is roguelike-ish, but its not really a game per se. Its just another way to experience the world you've generated. The fortress mode is a game, but its not a roguelike.

Adventure mode, not a game? XD It's huge, gigantic and you can wrestle dragons choke monsters with loinclothes etc. Adventure Mode is such an amazing experience that saying it isn't a game on its own is insanity! Entire youtube series are based around adventure mode.

Im not saying its not fun or you cant enjoy it but it has no structure or goals. Its just a freeform do you as you want sandbox. Thats why I dont call it a roguelike.

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

Originally posted by Delita:

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Adventure mode, not a game? XD It's huge, gigantic and you can wrestle dragons choke monsters with loinclothes etc. Adventure Mode is such an amazing experience that saying it isn't a game on its own is insanity! Entire youtube series are based around adventure mode.

Im not saying its not fun or you cant enjoy it but it has no structure or goals. Its just a freeform do you as you want sandbox. Thats why I dont call it a roguelike.

That's exactly what Cataclysm DDA is! You're arguing in circles! "That's an exception, but that game that is essentially the same thing is not an exception".

[Willcott]

"This game isn't a roguelike because it's a RPG" -> Games can be and feel like both...

"Darkest Dungeon is a scam" -> The best joke ever, lol. I've playing DD for like 2 years doing a few runs out there every week. No runs were ever the same. No playthrough felt the same.

I'm not even gonna bother discussing both statements here because either you are a troll or is delusional. My full constructive review on DD is there anyway explaning why it's a great game IMO. And you clearly are not interested in discussing anything with facts or links, but more like with biased feelings so this isn't going anywhere productive, ever.

People, just move on and ignore him. The definition of roguelike is on the internet. Or in your head. Whatever. I play games because they are fun, not because of the definition of a random dude who is looking for attention with controversial posts.

[Delita]

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Originally posted by Delita:

Im not saying its not fun or you cant enjoy it but it has no structure or goals. Its just a freeform do you as you want sandbox. Thats why I dont call it a roguelike.

That's exactly what Cataclysm DDA is! You're arguing in circles! "That's an exception, but that game that is essentially the same thing is not an exception".

I dont see them the same way at all. I can see where you are coming from, because I am not arguing with you. I am just talking. I was arguing with the OP, but he proved to be a troll so I ceased responding to him.