Most Powerful Character?

[JDPUK]

To me, it's been Darius surprisingly, leveled up - he's able to clear an area in about a minute or so, levels everything he comes in contact with. My favorite is Gawain, just a great overall character to use. I also like Francis Drake, she has some great skills, and just a lot of fun. And of course, Li Shuwen, never gets old using him. Who do you find most powerful and who are your favorite characters?

[Orbister]

Originally posted by PureRok:

Technically it's whichever has the highest stats at max level.

Not at all. Hitboxes, and invincibility frames are way more important than stats.

[PureRok]

Originally posted by Orbister:

Originally posted by PureRok:

Technically it's whichever has the highest stats at max level.

Not at all. Hitboxes, and invincibility frames are way more important than stats.

That wasn't the question. The question is "Which is the most powerful?"

The numbers are all that matter in that question.

It wasn't "Which is best?"

[Orbister]

Originally posted by PureRok:

Originally posted by Orbister:

Not at all. Hitboxes, and invincibility frames are way more important than stats.

That wasn't the question. The question is "Which is the most powerful?"

The numbers are all that matter in that question.

It wasn't "Which is best?"

Wrong again. The most powerful character is the one that can kill stuff more efficiently and fastest. You can have the highest numbers but a tiny hitbox that doesn't hit a single thing. Or be an extremely fragile glass cannon that gets stunlocked all the time. You are wrong. Feel bad about it.

[JDPUK]

Originally posted by Orbister:

Originally posted by PureRok:

That wasn't the question. The question is "Which is the most powerful?"

The numbers are all that matter in that question.

It wasn't "Which is best?"

Wrong again. The most powerful character is the one that can kill stuff more efficiently and fastest. You can have the highest numbers but a tiny hitbox that doesn't hit a single thing. Or be an extremely fragile glass cannon that gets stunlocked all the time. You are wrong. Feel bad about it.

Holster your weapon soldier, geez.

[kopiC]

(Not yet try non-story characters......)
Basically any character with good reach, fast attacks, fast cooldown, at least 4 useful active skills.
Last boss fight favours long-ranged characters, but that is only one fight.
Things changed at Very Hard setting, since all enemy servants can enter moondrive, negating hit-stuns.

The Great:
Gawain: easiest to use, better than Charles and Nero. Only moondrive finisher has poor reach.
Altera and Karna: how are these characters even balanced or legal.

The Okay:
Arjuna: the only straight shooting archer. Often AI are dumb and run straight towards you, forgetting that you out-range them. But Karna is so OP, that I often forget about Arjuna.
(Edit 22Apr) Has big area and long range ActiveSkill, heavy attack is good dash attack. Have to place him between Great and Okay. Best archer.
Charles: Active skills have great reach for saber class. Lacks firepower.
Nameless, Cu Chulainn are also all rounded, but not as good as Gawain.
(Edit 22Apr) Have to demote Nameless. Depend too much on range extenders, long range ASkill has long cooldown. Lots of attacks end with him in air, allowing some cheap dodging. Lots of wide attacks. On other hand, Cu Chulainn is serious assassin class.
Waifu Nero and Tamamo: only use them to relief boredom. Must have good Install Skills to make them useful.
Jeanne: Weird but hardly useful. At higher difficulty, you will wish you can use NP.
Only character I won't skip the appearance cutscene, always so epic watching her closeup as she rises from prayers. The world most modest "I gonna kick your behind so hard, that you start praying you aren't born"
Astolfo: a one-trick 'hippogriff'. Gets bored fast and hippogriff is poor in one-on-one fights.

"I Seriously Need Help with these Characters":
Elizabeth: odd character. Designed to be more counter-attack.
Robin Hood: no clue how to use him properly.

Will try out non-story characters later: Francis, Gilles, Medusa, Lu Bu, Lancelot, Li, Darius, Iskandar, Artoria, Scathach, Achimedes, Gilgamesh, Karl. (That's 13 characters I not even played yet...Oh I also notice there're a few unoccupied rooms...)

[reaper99999]

If you just want the character that is the biggest stat stick, then lu bu is objectively the best, if you want play style and other stuff... I'll have to get back to you, although I've had a lot of fun with gilgamesh so far

[Hibernape]

Originally posted by kopiC:

Jeanne: Weird but hardly useful. At higher difficulty, you will wish you can use NP.

Bruh.

Originally posted by kopiC:

Elizabeth: odd character. Designed to be more counter-attack.
Robin Hood: no clue how to use him properly.

Elizabeth is in desperate need of Attack Speed code casts.
Use all of her frontal area attacks and Estet Repules for triggering Rush.
Stack as much Martial Blessing as you can.

Robin Hood is one of my favourites. He's simple to play, but deals a ton of damage. Needs Cooldown code casts. Also stack as much Martial Blessing.
His first three skills, Poison Arrowhead/Attachment, Shrapnel/Triple Kick, are his best skills. Use whatever you want for the free slot. Faceless King is good for cheesing sectors and the Karl Mecha boss fight.

[kopiC]

Originally posted by Hibernape:

Originally posted by kopiC:

Jeanne: Weird but hardly useful. At higher difficulty, you will wish you can use NP.

Bruh.

You are at lv150, with all best double install skill. I think most character will be OP with that setup X-D

I tried Jeanne fighting enemy on same level, with full omegasigma skills. She started strong, but got trashed whenever enemy servants go moondrive. You can still win with some effort.

With Karna, with lesser effort, I am able to beats enemy 10 level above.

Originally posted by Hibernape:

Originally posted by kopiC:

Elizabeth: odd character. Designed to be more counter-attack.
Robin Hood: no clue how to use him properly.

Elizabeth is in desperate need of Attack Speed code casts.
Use all of her frontal area attacks and Estet Repules for triggering Rush.
Stack as much Martial Blessing as you can.

Robin Hood is one of my favourites. He's simple to play, but deals a ton of damage. Needs Cooldown code casts. Also stack as much Martial Blessing.
His first three skills, Poison Arrowhead/Attachment, Shrapnel/Triple Kick, are his best skills. Use whatever you want for the free slot. Faceless King is good for cheesing sectors and the Karl Mecha boss fight.

Will certainly try out the tips for ElizaB and RH. Maybe adding Caster property will allow Eliza to trigger more rush-stops.

[JDPUK]

Originally posted by kopiC:

Originally posted by Hibernape:

Bruh.

You are at lv150, with all best double install skill. I think most character will be OP with that setup X-D

I tried Jeanne fighting enemy on same level, with full omega skills. She started strong, but got trashed whenever enemy servants go moondrive. You can still win with some effort.

With Karna, with lesser effort, I am able to beats enemy 10 level above.

Originally posted by Hibernape:

Elizabeth is in desperate need of Attack Speed code casts.
Use all of her frontal area attacks and Estet Repules for triggering Rush.
Stack as much Martial Blessing as you can.

Robin Hood is one of my favourites. He's simple to play, but deals a ton of damage. Needs Cooldown code casts. Also stack as much Martial Blessing.
His first three skills, Poison Arrowhead/Attachment, Shrapnel/Triple Kick, are his best skills. Use whatever you want for the free slot. Faceless King is good for cheesing sectors and the Karl Mecha boss fight.

Will certainly try out the tips for ElizaB and RH. Maybe adding Caster property will allow Eliza to trigger more rush-stops.

I used Rider at level 51 and just cleared a stage that was 148 IIRC at super hard difficulty, just couldn't get hit, had to keep moving and scooting, I was EX across except for damage, one hit and my health was down 80% or so, took 531 damage total, haha, which gave me a "C".

[kopiC]

I am not that skilled haha, so I grind few levels to make things easier.

X-D which Rider?
In Fate world, all servants have to hide their true names. Learning the true name often means learning the weakness, gaining advantage over that servant.
Astolfo, Francis, Medusa, Iskandar are all addressed as Rider. Some do have unique nickname like Astolfo is also known as 'Rider of Black'.

[JDPUK]

Originally posted by kopiC:

I am not that skilled haha, so I grind few levels to make things easier.

X-D which Rider?
In Fate world, all servants have to hide their true names. Learning the true name often means learning the weakness, gaining advantage over that servant.
Astolfo, Francis, Medusa, Iskandar are all addressed as Rider. Some do have unique nickname like Astolfo is also known as 'Rider of Black'.

Oh, Iskandar (to me, he is the TRUE RIDER), loved that dude in Fate Zero!

[kopiC]

Hehe, need to wait awhile before trying side characters. Mastering story characters alone already takes so much time.

Also in multiplayer things works quite differently. Karna is too predictable and slow, human players dodge immediately on seeing casting animations. This is where fast-casting characters like ElizaB excels. I am only 70% thru EXmissions, will focus on single player for time being.

[Hibernape]

Originally posted by kopiC:

Originally posted by Hibernape:

Bruh.

You are at lv150, with all best double install skill. I think most character will be OP with that setup X-D

I tried Jeanne fighting enemy on same level, with full omegasigma skills. She started strong, but got trashed whenever enemy servants go moondrive. You can still win with some effort.

With Karna, with lesser effort, I am able to beats enemy 10 level above.

Having a bunch of Martial Blessing and Mana Recovery, paired with any Mystic Code that has Cooldown code casts will get you far early on in the game. Even the servants that doesn't feel good to play will become adequate.

In Jeanne's case, she's an absolute monster when it comes to AoE attacks. You should definitely give her another try.

[JDPUK]

Originally posted by Hibernape:

Originally posted by kopiC:

You are at lv150, with all best double install skill. I think most character will be OP with that setup X-D

I tried Jeanne fighting enemy on same level, with full omegasigma skills. She started strong, but got trashed whenever enemy servants go moondrive. You can still win with some effort.

With Karna, with lesser effort, I am able to beats enemy 10 level above.

Having a bunch of Martial Blessing and Mana Recovery, paired with any Mystic Code that has Cooldown code casts will get you far early on in the game. Even the servants that doesn't feel good to play will become adequate.

In Jeanne's case, she's an absolute monster when it comes to AoE attacks. You should definitely give her another try.

Yeah, agree, especially once you start getting A+ mystics and beyond 10 abilities to install!

[kopiC]

Lots of Active Skills makes no sense in single player, but works surprising well against human.

- Unlike AI, Human defenders block and dodge smartly.
- After blocking attack, defender dodges sideway, retaliate or uses quick AS, while attacker still stuck in chain-attack animation.
- Attacker, to counter defender side-dodging, uses quick area AS (while dodging, you are not invincible, plus slight delay before you can attack again).
- Alternately, defender can dodge backward and use long-range AS. Attacker uses rush AS to prevent this.
- Some AS has same casting animation (eg. Karna's left and right eyes), for baiting opponent into making wrong dodge.
- Jump attack is a thing, especially against character who doesn't have vertical swings. Those tornado AS are not just for show. There is also a pouncing jump (jump while in dashing animation). To be fair, most dive-bomb attack has slight delay to allow defender to guard.

Developer placed some serious effort in designing the characters for multiplayer PvP too. Not sure if most players will see the depth of the systems involved. Both happy and sad after realizing this......