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Stungun Oct 9, 2021 @ 7:29pm
Silverstone FT05@Lv19: Impossible Overclock/CW Job, +rightmost radiator slot is effectively never usable
The customer requested an overclock job with a custom water loop. It was a pretty steep overclock request: They wanted their Ryzen 7 1800X up to 4300MHz (+300MHz over the base clock). Initially I figured I'd be able to put in a 3x120mm radiator but when I actually got to installing the parts, I found some very unfortunate facts about this case.

First off, the drive bay obstructs the left-most slot for radiators, making it unusable as long as the drive bay is installed. And go figure, the customer had an HDD that was flagged as a customer part, so it was impossible to mount a 3x radiator or a 2x radiator in anything but the rightmost slot.

Well, just have to settle for a 2x 120 or 140mm radiator, right?

Nope.

Turns out that because of the strict positioning of the reservoir mount, any radiator mounted that uses the right-most slot will have one of its pipe mounts positioned directly underneath the reservoir, thus any connection to the CPU block or the reservoir will, once installed, have the game say there's no route for the flexible pipe. (Flexible pipes are all I have access to.) So that mount is only good for case fans and unless we get the ability to rotate the radiator, it shouldn't even be an option for mounting a radiator in.

So with both those mounting points unusable, I can only install a 1x 120/140mm radiator. Neither are able to cool down the Ryzen enough to stop it from thermal throttling at 4.3GHz. I tried underclocking the video card but it seems like that had no effect on the CPU temperature. I tried every combination of watercooling parts I had access to, and nothing would help the situation I was stuck in. Though the budget would barely allow me to drop in a second gen Ryzen with better OC potential, the CPU was listed as a customer part so it was impossible to replace.

Perhaps with the FT05, any radiator mounted in the right-most slot should be rotated 180 degrees when installed so the pipes come out of the left side?

For the record, I'm level 19, almost level 20. I imagine there's a lot of parts I don't have access to, so I'm not sure if later unlocked reservoirs or radiators might play nicer with this case. But that doesn't help me when I'm faced with a job that's impossible where I'm at now.
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DiabolicKitsune Oct 9, 2021 @ 7:39pm 
which case might it be? I know oddly enough some of these jobs even run 100 c without throttleing and usually seem to be silicon lottery winning chips.
Stungun Oct 9, 2021 @ 7:53pm 
I stated the case in the topic subject. It's a Silverstone FT05.

Also the themal throttling point is with a few weird exceptions, depenidng on whether you use an AMD or Intel CPU. Intel CPUs throttle at above 100C, but AMD CPUs at 95.5C, according to something I read.
Last edited by Stungun; Oct 9, 2021 @ 7:55pm
DiabolicKitsune Oct 9, 2021 @ 8:08pm 
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1732188924661505432/EED594B23F102450D24F1D8F06FF8FCE0D1771D3/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

I just connected a 240 in with flex pipe using the ekw revo 100. Its a bit finicky you have to connect the upper cpu block slot. Click the radiators left slot then the cpu blocks uper slot. If you do it the other way around it will intersect for some reason aparently connecting hoses to the same two sockets in different orders makes a difference in angling.
Stungun Oct 9, 2021 @ 9:53pm 
Okay, this only works if you hook the CPU block up to the reservoir first. Problem is, then I can't connect the radiator to the reservoir... I don't know how you're getting the pipe to drop down alongside the side panel, for me it's always trying to wrap around the reservoir and clip down through the reservoir mount, resulting in the failure.

EDIT: This is what it always winds up trying to do with that pipe:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/4098830532185664827/CFC9F1E3BFD43180090968148EEF72C345AB8430/?imw=1024&imh=576&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true

EDIT 2: Wound up waiting till I got the rigid pipes, which just amazed me with how sensitive the hitboxes were for those, took some re-piping not to obstruct the side panel, and it really felt like I was looking for some kind of crazy game-breaking exploit just to find a sweet spot with the pipe bends that would slip past the hitboxes of the radiator and reservoir. But even with that, a 2x120 radiator STILL isn't enough to cool it. Only managed to get enough cooling when I realized there was a top slot that could fit a 120mm case fan or radiator. The case fan didn't do anything, but putting a 120mm radiator and adding that to the loop worked. The case is an absolute mess though, with wires clipping through the bottom 2x radiator...
Last edited by Stungun; Oct 10, 2021 @ 12:26am
DiabolicKitsune Oct 10, 2021 @ 3:41pm 
Originally posted by Stungun:
Okay, this only works if you hook the CPU block up to the reservoir first. Problem is, then I can't connect the radiator to the reservoir... I don't know how you're getting the pipe to drop down alongside the side panel, for me it's always trying to wrap around the reservoir and clip down through the reservoir mount, resulting in the failure.

EDIT: This is what it always winds up trying to do with that pipe:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/4098830532185664827/CFC9F1E3BFD43180090968148EEF72C345AB8430/?imw=1024&imh=576&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true

EDIT 2: Wound up waiting till I got the rigid pipes, which just amazed me with how sensitive the hitboxes were for those, took some re-piping not to obstruct the side panel, and it really felt like I was looking for some kind of crazy game-breaking exploit just to find a sweet spot with the pipe bends that would slip past the hitboxes of the radiator and reservoir. But even with that, a 2x120 radiator STILL isn't enough to cool it. Only managed to get enough cooling when I realized there was a top slot that could fit a 120mm case fan or radiator. The case fan didn't do anything, but putting a 120mm radiator and adding that to the loop worked. The case is an absolute mess though, with wires clipping through the bottom 2x radiator...
It might of been the cooler i used too. I think it was alpha cool cause some have the connection points in slightly different points. But still real janky. But yeah i really wish they didn't uses low airflow cases and small cases for those jobs.
Just a note for you: You do not have to overclock their processor to complete this job. You can just replace it with another AMD processor that has a default clock speed of 4300 Mhz or higher. The Ryzen 3 Quad Core 3300X would complete this objective and only costs $290. There are a lot of other processors you could choose from too. Just go in the store and filter it to show AMD AM4 socket & Minimum processor frequency of 4000 Mhz.
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