Threadripper 2990WX thermals broken?

[Masura]

No matter what the thermals for the threadripper 2990WX sits at 48c overclocking it even by 1mhz causes it to jump to near 80c and anything about 2-3 seems to make it hard crash no matter what you do.

[blueshift1980]

...no mention of what cooling solution you're using?

[Masura]

Tried custom loop and the highest CFM 360mm rad with the highest SFM fans in the D85/87 case

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Originally posted by Masura Reisei:

Tried custom loop and the highest CFM 360mm rad with the highest SFM fans in the D85/87 case

You're using a single rad, that's your problem. You have to use multiples in a cpu-only loop for the 2990WX, it's a stupid hot chip, even in real life.

[Masura]

I have tried dual 360mm rads and it still didnt work, and thats still not realistic, no cpu is going to need a dual rad to reduce the thermals and its not going to jump up by near 20c only going up by 2mhz, on a custom waterblock that is just insane. Also I have two threads on this because one is a bug report and the other is me asking a question.

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Originally posted by Masura Reisei:

I have tried dual 360mm rads and it still didnt work, and thats still not realistic, no cpu is going to need a dual rad to reduce the thermals and its not going to jump up by near 20c only going up by 2mhz, on a custom waterblock that is just insane. Also I have two threads on this because one is a bug report and the other is me asking a question.

Then you've never seen this processor in real life and obviously have no idea how this processor even works IRL at all. In real life as long as you run it stock, it's perfectly fine on even a 240mm AIO. The problem is in AMD and their design. Even in real life, if you try to overclock a 2990WX even +100 Mhz, the thermal requirements go through the roof like +60% thermals suddenly. It's just how AMD designs their chips.

[Masura]

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

Originally posted by Masura Reisei:

I have tried dual 360mm rads and it still didnt work, and thats still not realistic, no cpu is going to need a dual rad to reduce the thermals and its not going to jump up by near 20c only going up by 2mhz, on a custom waterblock that is just insane. Also I have two threads on this because one is a bug report and the other is me asking a question.

Then you've never seen this processor in real life and obviously have no idea how this processor even works IRL at all. In real life as long as you run it stock, it's perfectly fine on even a 240mm AIO. The problem is in AMD and their design. Even in real life, if you try to overclock a 2990WX even +100 Mhz, the thermal requirements go through the roof like +60% thermals suddenly. It's just how AMD designs their chips.

You seem to have only read only what you wanted to in my previous post.... this conversation is not worth my time.

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Originally posted by Masura Reisei:

You seem to have only read only what you wanted to in my previous post.... this conversation is not worth my time.

You're complaining the 2990WX gets super hot when you try to overclock it and you're using simple cooling and refuse to even try to assemble a big loop with 3-4 radiators for it. Did I some how miss something here?

[Masura]

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

Originally posted by Masura Reisei:

You seem to have only read only what you wanted to in my previous post.... this conversation is not worth my time.

You're complaining the 2990WX gets super hot when you try to overclock it and you're using simple cooling and refuse to even try to assemble a big loop with 3-4 radiators for it. Did I some how miss something here?

Prime example right here, literally used two 360mm rads in a fully custom loop and it didnt do ♥♥♥♥ -_- again, CLEARLY missed plenty.

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Originally posted by Masura Reisei:

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

You're complaining the 2990WX gets super hot when you try to overclock it and you're using simple cooling and refuse to even try to assemble a big loop with 3-4 radiators for it. Did I some how miss something here?

Prime example right here, literally used two 360mm rads in a fully custom loop and it didnt do ♥♥♥♥ -_- again, CLEARLY missed plenty.

In this game multiple radiators has more of an effect than size, currently. So 4 x 140mm radiators will run better than 2x360 radiators. So like I said.. try multiple. I've set up a loop myself in-game, cpu-only, for the 2990WX, with three radiators. I've seen it run only mid-70's C stock and was even able to overclock it a little bit and it didn't crash and it wasn't thermal throttling. So yes, you're doing something wrong. I tried to educate you on how to do it correctly but instead of taking my suggestions you're just insulting me and in general being a jerk. So good luck figuring it out on your own then.

[Turbo]

Originally posted by Masura Reisei:

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

You're complaining the 2990WX gets super hot when you try to overclock it and you're using simple cooling and refuse to even try to assemble a big loop with 3-4 radiators for it. Did I some how miss something here?

Prime example right here, literally used two 360mm rads in a fully custom loop and it didnt do ♥♥♥♥ -_- again, CLEARLY missed plenty.

Yeah... two rads isn't three or four. Try harder next time. You really want to go crazy, grab a Define R6 and build a five rad loop (hint: it's still not enough, even when you spend a ton of time binning for a golden CPU).

The way watercooling works in the game right now, more rads is better, even if you technically have less overall radiator in the case. So, four 140mm radiators would actually be better than three 360mm radiators.

That being said, both watercooling and the 2990WX are both new additions to the game, and as such, are still very much so a work in progress. That's why it's called Early Access after all. We're all essentially beta testing (and even alpha testing in the case of some features) and crowd funding the project at the same time. Considering that, a little patience definitely wouldn't go amiss.

Finally, take a few minutes and go browse actual 3DMark results from real PCs. You'll see that the 2990WX isn't as good a CPU as you seem to be hoping it is anyway. The 7980XE far outstrips it. This is somewhat to be expected though as even programs that are purpose built for high core count CPUs like Time Spy Extreme aren't properly optimized to handle that many cores. Even in the real world, it takes time for the software to catch up to the capabilites of cutting edge hardware. Again, patience is key.

[Masura]

Originally posted by Turbo:

Originally posted by Masura Reisei:

Prime example right here, literally used two 360mm rads in a fully custom loop and it didnt do ♥♥♥♥ -_- again, CLEARLY missed plenty.

Yeah... two rads isn't three or four. Try harder next time. You really want to go crazy, grab a Define R6 and build a five rad loop (hint: it's still not enough, even when you spend a ton of time binning for a golden CPU).

The way watercooling works in the game right now, more rads is better, even if you technically have less overall radiator in the case. So, four 140mm radiators would actually be better than three 360mm radiators.

That being said, both watercooling and the 2990WX are both new additions to the game, and as such, are still very much so a work in progress. That's why it's called Early Access after all. We're all essentially beta testing (and even alpha testing in the case of some features) and crowd funding the project at the same time. Considering that, a little patience definitely wouldn't go amiss.

Finally, take a few minutes and go browse actual 3DMark results from real PCs. You'll see that the 2990WX isn't as good a CPU as you seem to be hoping it is anyway. The 7980XE far outstrips it. This is somewhat to be expected though as even programs that are purpose built for high core count CPUs like Time Spy Extreme aren't properly optimized to handle that many cores. Even in the real world, it takes time for the software to catch up to the capabilites of cutting edge hardware. Again, patience is key.

Fair enough fair enough, I might give it a try and see how it goes.

[Kelevra]

Masura is right. You can even OC the 2990WX with an Aircooler... at least in Reallife you can. But the Thermals inGame are so damn high, because PCBS doesn't account for surface area of Rads and Aircooler. So I think we are dealing with two types of problems here: 1: Cooling isn't calculated right and 2: The 2990WX has a serious temperature bug.