Why can't I buy PC Building Simulator 2 on Steam?

[StAlk]

When I noticed the second part of this game on Epic Games, I wanted to buy it on Steam, but I couldn't find it. I could only find the first part in my search. Does anyone know when it will appear on Steam? Or is it there, I just didn't find it, and if it is, can you tell me how to find it?

[JarredHD]

Pc building simulator 1 is on steam here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/621060/PC_Building_Simulator/

Number 2 is only on Epic since they take most games off steam and put onto their own launcher

[StAlk]

Understood, thank you

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Originally posted by StalkGame:

Understood, thank you

Just so you know: This game will never be on steam. Epic Games bought out the company that owned the studio that made the first game and as a result they then ensured the second game would be exclusive to Epic Games forever.

[StAlk]

I understand, I just thought maybe someday it will appear on Steam and buy it, but I'll have to buy it from Epic Games, it's a shame :(

[Bikanel desert]

only if epic fails and steam buy epic

[Baxxy.Nut]

Because whether through being purchased or making a deal, they took money to ensure it didn't go on Steam. Don't blame anyone, money is money haha

[bolero3232]

I've said this before in another thread....
One of the reasons I've heard of why Epic was founded was that the creator was annoyed that certain platforms monopolized access to games. This seems antithetical to Epic monopolizing games such as PCBS2. I'm sorry I can't be more specific, it's been some time since I originally read this.

Having said this, I have explored PCBS2 and have come to the conclusion that it is not much better than PCBS, so in my mind Epic can keep PCBS2. I don't need it and I won't buy it. TBH, I'm not sure if I would buy it even if it were made available on Steam.

[StAlk]

Originally posted by bolero3232:

I've said this before in another thread....
One of the reasons I've heard of why Epic was founded was that the creator was annoyed that certain platforms monopolized access to games. This seems antithetical to Epic monopolizing games such as PCBS2. I'm sorry I can't be more specific, it's been some time since I originally read this.

Having said this, I have explored PCBS2 and have come to the conclusion that it is not much better than PCBS, so in my mind Epic can keep PCBS2. I don't need it and I won't buy it. TBH, I'm not sure if I would buy it even if it were made available on Steam.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by bolero3232:

One of the reasons I've heard of why Epic was founded was that the creator was annoyed that certain platforms monopolized access to games. This seems antithetical to Epic monopolizing games such as PCBS2. I'm sorry I can't be more specific, it's been some time since I originally read this.

That isn't even remotely close to why. Rather he was annoyed with the 30% revenue take Steam takes. There is even an email where the CEO of Epic sent to Gabe Newell asking him to lower the revenue share for all developers, only for Valve to only lower it for a tiny minority of games, and he then called Valve a-holes for doing that instead of lowering it for everyone.

The CEO even said that if Valve were to lower their revenue share for everyone they would have stopped doing exclusives and would even bring their own games over to Steam.

The sticking point about Steam for Epic Games has always been about the revenue share Valve takes. Stating that Valve has far higher profit margins than the actual creators of games get, and seeing how Valve's profit margins on Steam is 60% and no game developer no publisher gets anywhere close to that it really shows he is right.

So what would it take for Epic to bring games like PCBS2 or even Fortnite over to Steam? It would take Valve to stop being greedy and lower their revenue share. But since Valve has been greedy since their early years, even abusing their market power to prevent pricing competition from happening through contracts, threats, and negative actions towards dev/pubs that did or wanted to have their games on other stores for a cheaper price (talking about PC stores not selling Steam keys), really don't see Valve deciding to become pro-consumer, pro-competitive, and pro-developers by lowering their revenue share or stop using their market power to prevent pricing competition.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by StalkGame:

Originally posted by bolero3232:

I've said this before in another thread....
One of the reasons I've heard of why Epic was founded was that the creator was annoyed that certain platforms monopolized access to games. This seems antithetical to Epic monopolizing games such as PCBS2. I'm sorry I can't be more specific, it's been some time since I originally read this.

Having said this, I have explored PCBS2 and have come to the conclusion that it is not much better than PCBS, so in my mind Epic can keep PCBS2. I don't need it and I won't buy it. TBH, I'm not sure if I would buy it even if it were made available on Steam.

Should be noted that PCBS 2 has a ton of new features that the first game does not have. So keep that in mind. Its objectively a lot better game than the first game.

[bolero3232]

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Originally posted by StalkGame:

Should be noted that PCBS 2 has a ton of new features that the first game does not have. So keep that in mind. Its objectively a lot better game than the first game.

I can't argue with your previous statement. You seem to be much more informed than I am on that point.
I can say on this point that the features I saw on PCBS2 did not impress me enough to interest me. So, better game? That's somewhat subjective.

[StAlk]

I just saw some new mechanics there, like servicing video cards (that's all I remember), and these mechanics are not in the first part, so it became interesting to try it.

[Corcal]

A shame to hear it became an Epic exclusive, so like with Borderlands 3 it is likely something I can't really see me buying, in Borderlands 3's case it was released onto steam at full price despite being a year old when it arrived, which bothered me, and then won a steam award that year despite, again, being a year old, which also bothered me. So even if PC Building Simulator 2 came to steam, I'll probably end up skipping it.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Corcal:

A shame to hear it became an Epic exclusive, so like with Borderlands 3 it is likely something I can't really see me buying, in Borderlands 3's case it was released onto steam at full price despite being a year old when it arrived, which bothered me, and then won a steam award that year despite, again, being a year old, which also bothered me. So even if PC Building Simulator 2 came to steam, I'll probably end up skipping it.

Borderlands 3 was a 6 month exclusive, not 1 year.

PC Building Simulator 2 IP is owned by Epic and was also developed by Epic Games, in partnership with an independent developer studio.

You are missing out on a great game over a petty reason. Why is a store far more important to you than actual games are? Do you play games or do you play a store? Looks like that latter is what you do.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Borderlands 3 was a 6 month exclusive, not 1 year.

PC Building Simulator 2 IP is owned by Epic and was also developed by Epic Games, in partnership with an independent developer studio.

You are missing out on a great game over a petty reason. Why is a store far more important to you than actual games are? Do you play games or do you play a store? Looks like that latter is what you do.

I really wish it was just that simple as you say "just a storefront". Unfortunately it's not just that simple and you know it. For all other stores it's "just a storefront". With Epic Games it's a storefront and the behavior of the company that owns it that comes along with it. That's why most people don't buy from Epic Games: They do not want to support the behavior of the company that owns it.