Still no native GNU/Linux version

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

It is 2022. If you know how to build computers and you are still using Microsoft's OS you are terribly stupid.
This game should be more realistic. In a lot of computer fairs, where people show off their vibrant colored, tuned PCs, you'll see most people run GNU/Linux. A lot of people still dual-boot *just* because of gaming and vendor lock-in.

This game has corporate sponsors, 11 diffedent DLCs, and still no consideration for GNU/Linux.
I guess it is market torwards consumerists and corporate fanboys.

Geek culture *is* libre software and DIY hardware building. Just check the forums and see.

Even people who don't care even the slightest about their freedoms to hack, mod, recycle, repair, etc (but void warranties and do so anyways) will go for GNU/Linux when they are seeking performance.

Whoever jumped out of the environmental-crushing proprietary wagon never jumps in again. To deny our existence is completely dumb. You need us to run servers, even the ones at Microsoft making that heavy spying beast of an OS work.

If we're left out just because we don't add up a lot of money, even though we are the ones who created and push the damned industry, then that is just sad.

Green, environmental friendly, repairable, recycleable, sustainable technology does not make a lot of money. No one in the developed world pays the bills for all the electronic waste dumped into African and American countries. If the market share is the reason to disconsider us, GNU/Linux and libre OS users, you are terrible people, following the mentality that has lead this destruction we are in.

Time is passing. Drop Windows-first (or worst: Windows-only) mindset or doom many thousands of species.

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What is the point of your post here? Are you trying to write an anti-windows / pro-linux rant or something? The developers told us they aren't ever adding any more content to this game ever again. There never will be a native Linux version of this game.

[Zombie_Pizza]

you need to talk to the Epic Games Devs about this. PCBS 1 is over. And yea he is anti-windows. IN all my year of using a PC i have never once used Linux, i only play Video games so linux would make more problems for me. Plus Linux is not user friendly or even easy to use or understand. Also most ISP and modem/routers are not native to run on linux

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Originally posted by Zombie_Pizza:

Also most ISP and modem/routers are not native to run on linux

That part is just incorrect. Our modems or routers have no way to know what OS we are using on our computers. They just provide an internet connection.

[Zombie_Pizza]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Originally posted by Zombie_Pizza:

Also most ISP and modem/routers are not native to run on linux

That part is just incorrect. Our modems or routers have no way to know what OS we are using on our computers. They just provide an internet connection.

I bought a new modem/router and it said must have Win 10 to set up and connect to internet

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Originally posted by Zombie_Pizza:

I bought a new modem/router and it said must have Win 10 to set up and connect to internet

It must of included some sort of software with it for you to install on your computer that requires windows 10. The router it's self doesn't know what OS you use. I have a router based on Linux (PFSense) and it provides internet just fine to all of my computers in the house regardless of what OS they run: Windows, Linux, and AppleOS.

[Zombie_Pizza]

plus Linux isnt for the just gamer and Streamer or youtuber. IF you dont know what youre doing wit Linux you can brick your PC. And i took a class in computer programming and Linux was nowhere at all to be found for the Degree in PC Programming. and guess what you dont need to be certified to work on and repair computers, LINUX

[martingolding96]

Using Linux is a choice as in England there are no shops that I know of that sells PC's with Linux pre-installed so a Game company prioritising windows over other operating systems makes more sense than making games compatible with Linux or other OS'.

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Unfortunately in the end none of the things we say will matter. The developers chose to write this game for windows only and they aren't updating the game any more. This game will forever require windows to run correctly and will never have a native Linux version. We can discuss Windows vs Linux forever but it still won't change these facts.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Originally posted by Zombie_Pizza:

you need to talk to the Epic Games Devs about this. PCBS 1 is over. And yea he is anti-windows. IN all my year of using a PC i have never once used Linux, i only play Video games so linux would make more problems for me. Plus Linux is not user friendly or even easy to use or understand. Also most ISP and modem/routers are not native to run on linux

Jeez, you for all of your years using personal computers, you still haven't learned how to use one - and you seem proud of it.
Look: Windows is old stuff. It is heavy, it is slow, it is full of serious glitches. It has backdoors for NSA, which have been proven and confirmed - that never changed.

Since Windows 10 it collects your data to speculate on - do you consider youserlf to be a netural resource for Surveillance Capitalism? Because I don't.

It has freaking advertiesments everywhere! And you can't turn some of those off (and, seeing your level of abilities, I presume you don't turn *any* off).

Why are you normalizing being treated like a fool and punching your chest brazenly shouting "I am a pround fool!"?

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Anways,

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

What is the point of your post here? Are you trying to write an anti-windows / pro-linux rant or something? The developers told us they aren't ever adding any more content to this game ever again. There never will be a native Linux version of this game.

Well, yeah, it is obviously against Windows (and their whole model) and pro GNU/Linux (and the liberties model).

We can't deny the rise of Surveillance Capitalism and how it is against the Proclamation of Human Rights. We *have* the right to not live under a reality-show for the ultra-rich, even if our governments haven't been shielding us from it (US government is actually pretty excited to have all those data on people, while the European Union has recently taken up enforcing the rights of their citizens. Elsewhere is just non-regulated).

We also can't deny Climate Change and all the waste and pollution generated by the model of closed-up, proprietary, scrwed-up-intelectual-property enforcing, programaticaly obsolete tech.

I mean, sure, we can: People can boast how they've cared not for these things for the last few decades and how they are fine and everyone they know are fine...

But those who deny the logic and causality of things are making public their ignorance.

So,

It blows that the developers won't release a GNU/Linux version. Many games have done so years or decade after their release. They can go back to their code and work to make it compatible. If they are unwilling to do so, they are basicly announcing they don't care about the gamers - yes, every gamer, including those that still play on Windows. They do not spare a thought for Ethics, nor do they care about the theme of the game itself.

I do hope that they see some sense and consider coming back and releasing a GNU/Linux native version. Like I've written; it has been done other times.

Will they brush off all of these questions and just live carelessly? Perhaps.
But they can do the right thing, that is releasing the game for GNU/Linux and publising the source code.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Originally posted by martingolding96:

Using Linux is a choice as in England there are no shops that I know of that sells PC's with Linux pre-installed so a Game company prioritising windows over other operating systems makes more sense than making games compatible with Linux or other OS'.

Well, yeah, Windows is unfortunately shoved to the masses.
Microsoft is smart: treats human beings like very stupid things, while making deals directly with personal computer brands, to ship both products together.
If those brands started marketing state-of-the-art, pre-equalized, bottom-up designed GNU/Linux computers, people would want that.
It is faster, lighter, more secure, more robust, reliable, versatile... all the things Windows will never be.
Now, if all they send stores is 1 out of 1000 computers, which is a second-line running Ubuntu... it will never be appealing. People will only strange it.

GNU/Linux is a choice, but so is eating healthy & organic food.

Those with no education, will happily chomp up garbage. Raise a kid of fast-food and soda and see if they won't give you all sorts of poor reasoning when adults you present them a chef's dish.

I say we should treat humans - and the planet - better.
Consider that some of us do bike, do eat well, do respect ourselfs and do put aside our trash.

Don't make food avaiable only to suit the fast-food addicts.

If there are no restaurants in town, one has to cook up their own food, and chose their flavors.
If there are no department stores in town that sell machines with pre-installed GNU/Linux, one can ship from System79, Purism, or other brands, or spin up their favourite distro on a store-bought machine and ask refund from trashy Microsoft.

EDIT: Again, building your own computer from scratch and picking your desired flavour of GNU/Linux is what this game is all about.

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Originally posted by Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Well, yeah, it is obviously against Windows (and their whole model) and pro GNU/Linux (and the liberties model).

Then perhaps you might want to remember where you are writing your comments. This is the PC Building Simulator forums. Most comments and threads written here usually relate to the game. You're writing up more of a generalized real life "Windows vs Linux" thing. I think you would have a better chance at getting the response you are looking for from some other forum. Maybe this would help you: https://forums.anandtech.com/forums/operating-systems.11/

Originally posted by Heitor Villa-Lobos:

EDIT: Again, building your own computer from scratch and picking your desired flavour of GNU/Linux is what this game is all about.

That is not true at all. Neither GNU nor Linux are ever mentioned, discussed, featured or otherwise shown at any point in this game. But then again you would know that if you owned a copy of the game and played it. It appears you have not actually played this game. At least not on steam. This game uses "OmegaOS" in the game. OmegaOS in this game has nothing to do with any other operating system that currently exists. It does not represent Linux. It does not represent Microsoft Windows either. It's a generic thing that the developers came up with. OmegaOS has nothing to do with anything that may exist outside of the game.

[Brittimus]

What this game really needs is Windows XP

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

I believe this game, about building computers would suit well in GNU/Linux, a Operating System that is used primarely by tech savvy people and computer enthusiats.

The game should meet its audience.

While I know that some people just run this game on Proton, I also know that there are a lot of people who wish to run their games natively and only play the ones that they can do so.

I can't really be more clear:
People who like to build computers are more often then not users of GNU/Linux - or even some experimental or niche OS.

Having this game to be native to Windows *only* is like if it was only playable on a Pentium® II - which specs you could somehow emulate on other machines, but it would be ridiculous to do so.

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Originally posted by Heitor Villa-Lobos:

I believe this game, about building computers would suit well in GNU/Linux, a Operating System that is used primarely by tech savvy people and computer enthusiats.

The game should meet its audience.

While I know that some people just run this game on Proton, I also know that there are a lot of people who wish to run their games natively and only play the ones that they can do so.

I can't really be more clear:
People who like to build computers are more often then not users of GNU/Linux - or even some experimental or niche OS.

Having this game to be native to Windows *only* is like if it was only playable on a Pentium® II - which specs you could somehow emulate on other machines, but it would be ridiculous to do so.

Then that would be your problem. I understand your problem now and since you want to be clear then we can clear this up: This game is *NOT* simulating "People that enjoy building computers". As in "The home hobbyist". That is not the point of this game. This game's audience is not "People who enjoy building computers". It is "People who want to experience working in a computer repair shop". This game is simulating is an employee that works in a small computer repair shop repairing a customer's computers. As a job. Most computer repair shops in real life are not going to offer Linux to their customers. That's an advanced thing for someone to do themselves at home. As I wrote previously in this thread: This game does not advocate, suggest, or infer for anyone to use Linux anywhere in this game. You are imagining things that do not exist.

[martingolding96]

Originally posted by Heitor Villa-Lobos:

I can't really be more clear:
In my opinion people who like to build computers are more often then not users of GNU/Linux - or even some experimental or niche OS.

Just fixing part of your post.