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Yanpac Aug 11, 2020 @ 12:29pm
BSOD with 2 different 1080ti
I suspect a bug because I have tried everything. I got a job where I need to change the PSU and hard drive. I also remove viruses, in short everything is green, I return the pc and it gives me a star because its pc is not stable.

I reload the backup and indeed with OCCT I have a BSOD Omega System was shut down etc. There are two 1080ti of different model. They are marked as owned and I cannot replace them. Anyway it explodes the budget. No part is broken. Putting fans is no use. OCCT even tells me that the more powerful GPU is auto-downgraded to be at the same operating frequency as the less powerful card. I don't see any solution.
Originally posted by 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊:
Originally posted by Yanpac:
1 No OC.
2 No overheating problem.
3 No.

Well, if that helps here is another picture.

https://zupimages.net/up/20/33/yh6n.jpg
RE: #3: Right there in your screen shot. GPU #0 has a memory clock of 1376 Mhz and GPU #1 has a memory clock of 1390 Mhz. You need to make sure the memory clocks match too, not just the core clock speed. Try and overclock the memory speed in the GPU Tuner +1 Mhz and it should bring up the memory speed of GPU #0 to match.
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Load this job and trigger the blue screen and read the words displayed on the blue screen. Each blue screen message tells you different things as to what's wrong with the system. Then read some of the blue screen guides here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/621060/guides/?searchText=blue&browsefilter=trend&requiredtags%5B%5D=-1

The guides reference each type of blue screen and will tell you exactly what it means and how to remedy it.
Krapht Aug 11, 2020 @ 1:03pm 
It could probably be a bug. I don't recall ever getting a job where a pc was delivered unstable.
There may be ways out though depending on what type of BSOD you get. (I usually look at https://gameplay.tips/guides/2542-pc-building-simulator.html if I forget which is which)

Anyways, if it is a lack of power (Uncorrectable Hardware Error) you could try to replace the PSU with a more powerful one. Budgets are somewhat flexible, I've done jobs where I was a few bucks over budget but still got 5 stars. If the problem is GPU overheading (uDisplay.drv Error) you could try and underclock the GPU and see if it gets stable (this might also solve the not enough power problem)

Having OCCT tell you one GPU is underclocked is normal when you have two GPUs with different clock speeds. The system automatically underclocks the more powerful one to match the weaker one at 100%

Other BSODS (CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT, PRN_LIST_CORRUPT, Clock Interrupt Error are usually not linked with GPUs)

(Edit: Ninjad... check out those guides, they have good info)
Last edited by Krapht; Aug 11, 2020 @ 1:05pm
Yanpac Aug 11, 2020 @ 1:13pm 
I don't have any specific error message. https://zupimages.net/up/20/33/y13g.jpg
I also changed the PSU for 1000W it does not change anything. With only one card there is no BSOD, it is when there are both together that the BSOD occurs.
Last edited by Yanpac; Aug 11, 2020 @ 1:14pm
Originally posted by Yanpac:
I don't have any specific error message. https://zupimages.net/up/20/33/y13g.jpg
I also changed the PSU for 1000W it does not change anything. With only one card there is no BSOD, it is when there are both together that the BSOD occurs.
Yes you do. It's right there. "Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed". That's your blue screen message. The guides should cover that.
Yanpac Aug 11, 2020 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by Aquafawks:
Originally posted by Yanpac:
I don't have any specific error message. https://zupimages.net/up/20/33/y13g.jpg
I also changed the PSU for 1000W it does not change anything. With only one card there is no BSOD, it is when there are both together that the BSOD occurs.
Yes you do. It's right there. "Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed". That's your blue screen message. The guides should cover that.
Indeed. And it tells me:

"GPU Instability

This error occurs when you have overclocked your gpu too high or have given it too little voltage."

Except that the cards are not OC. And this is not a PSU problem.
Last edited by Yanpac; Aug 11, 2020 @ 1:21pm
Originally posted by Yanpac:
Indeed. And it tells me:

"GPU Instability

This error occurs when you have overclocked your gpu too high or have given it too little voltage."

Except that the cards are not OC. And this is not a PSU problem.
Are you sure the video cards are matching their clocks? Perhaps use the GPU overclock tool to manually down-clock the faster card to make 100% sure it matches the other one. They do need to match in this game in terms of clocks or they'll blue screen.
Yanpac Aug 11, 2020 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by Aquafawks:
Originally posted by Yanpac:
Indeed. And it tells me:

"GPU Instability

This error occurs when you have overclocked your gpu too high or have given it too little voltage."

Except that the cards are not OC. And this is not a PSU problem.
Are you sure the video cards are matching their clocks? Perhaps use the GPU overclock tool to manually down-clock the faster card to make 100% sure it matches the other one. They do need to match in this game in terms of clocks or they'll blue screen.
I tried that too. It does not work.
Originally posted by Yanpac:
I tried that too. It does not work.
There's only so many things that can be wrong with a video card in this game, you have to figure out what it is:
1.) Video card is overclocked to an unstable level.
2.) Video card is overheating and causes crashes.
3.) Two video cards and the clocks aren't matched.

The blue screen told you that the problem is with the video card so that's what you need to focus on and figure out.
Yanpac Aug 11, 2020 @ 2:56pm 
Originally posted by Aquafawks:
Originally posted by Yanpac:
I tried that too. It does not work.
There's only so many things that can be wrong with a video card in this game, you have to figure out what it is:
1.) Video card is overclocked to an unstable level.
2.) Video card is overheating and causes crashes.
3.) Two video cards and the clocks aren't matched.

The blue screen told you that the problem is with the video card so that's what you need to focus on and figure out.
1 No OC.
2 No overheating problem.
3 No.

Well, if that helps here is another picture.

https://zupimages.net/up/20/33/yh6n.jpg
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Originally posted by Yanpac:
1 No OC.
2 No overheating problem.
3 No.

Well, if that helps here is another picture.

https://zupimages.net/up/20/33/yh6n.jpg
RE: #3: Right there in your screen shot. GPU #0 has a memory clock of 1376 Mhz and GPU #1 has a memory clock of 1390 Mhz. You need to make sure the memory clocks match too, not just the core clock speed. Try and overclock the memory speed in the GPU Tuner +1 Mhz and it should bring up the memory speed of GPU #0 to match.
Last edited by 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊; Aug 11, 2020 @ 3:08pm
Yanpac Aug 11, 2020 @ 3:17pm 
Well that solved the problem. I don't know if it is initially a "bug" or if it is a puzzle of the game from a certain level.

Anyway thank you, it was really the needle in a haystack!
Originally posted by Yanpac:
Well that solved the problem. I don't know if it is initially a "bug" or if it is a puzzle of the game from a certain level.

Anyway thank you, it was really the needle in a haystack!
It's part of the puzzle of figuring out the game. And now I've educated you on how to recognize and fix this sort of thing in the future. :steamhappy: Have fun!
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