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Irregular Corporation  [developer] Aug 7, 2020 @ 3:01am
对于我们的中国玩家-我们需要您的反馈!
大家好,

提前致歉,因为我们想快速发送此消息,所以我们不得不使用Google翻译。

我们想快速传达一条信息,说我们已经看到了中国玩家在我们新的电子竞技扩展方面出现的各种问题。我们想深入了解不适用于您的原因,以及为什么这样做,如果我们的中国玩家能够为我们提供有关电竞扩展的反馈,并提供尽可能多的信息,我们将不胜感激。如果您有能力使用英语进行回复,这将对我们有很大帮助,否则,我们将使用Google翻译尝试并从您的反馈中获取尽可能多的信息。

我们目前正在努力解决一些已报告的翻译问题,并重新平衡Trinity团队的预算,并重新启用手动工具。

请将此线程用作提供尽可能多的信息的地方。


谢谢,
PC Building Sim团队
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furbysaur Aug 7, 2020 @ 4:22am 
I used google translate and here is the translation:

For our Chinese players-we need your feedback!
Hello everyone,

Apologies in advance, because we want to send this message quickly, so we have to use Google Translate.

We want to quickly convey a message that we have seen various problems with Chinese players in our new eSports expansion. We would like to learn more about the reasons why it does not apply to you and why we do so. If our Chinese players can provide us with feedback on the expansion of e-sports and provide as much information as possible, we would be very grateful. If you have the ability to respond in English, it will help us a lot, otherwise, we will try using Google Translate and get as much information as possible from your feedback.

We are currently working to resolve some of the reported translation issues, rebalance the Trinity team’s budget, and re-enable manual tools.

Please use this thread as a place to provide as much information as possible.


Thank you,
PC Building Sim team
Last edited by furbysaur; Aug 7, 2020 @ 4:24am
PlyrStar93 Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:26am 
They are mostly complaining about the game / DLC disappearing from library even after they purchased it, which was actually a Valve-related issue that affects a variety of games and Steam users, but people left negative reviews (including a few attack languages) possibly thinking the devs / publisher did something shady. From what I see the devs have responded to most of such reviews.

Looking through new negative reviews after August 4th, excluding those about the above Valve issue, their complaints are not about the new DLC. I can see some comments about:

* Too much restriction in the base game (inferior parts, no mixed RAM, etc.)
* Hardware selection not up to date
* Difficult to earn money in the game
* Game is boring
PlyrStar93 Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:29am 
Well, I just noticed there is no way to check all the reviews left at https://store.steampowered.com/app/1252990

My previous post only accounted for reviews left to the base game.
V1ncent Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:40am 
I use Google Translate and this is the translation:

Hello, PC Building Sim team!

I have completed all the tasks of the e-sports dlc, collected gifts from all players and obtained gold watches from all teams. The following are some of the problems I found

First, I found that the display is not complete when players need to use specific peripherals in the game.

Second, in a competition task, the hardware of the team group has been translated into Chinese, which is difficult to understand. It is better to keep the team group directly.

Third, I suggest not to display "The graphics card must use the brand" when you need to use a specific brand of graphics card. For example, if you need to use the NVIDIA graphics card, it should display "You must use the NVIDIA graphics card".

Fourth, the aurora team color needs to be used in the conkerer mission, but we have no way of knowing what the team color is.

Fifth, there is a task that requires the case temperature to be lower than 31°C, but the case temperature is not displayed in occt. I don't know how to get the case temperature.

Sixth, many tasks require stable running of occt or specific 3dmark scores, but players need to change other hardware in the middle, even if they change cables, they must re-run the score or run occt. I think this is a waste of time.

Seventh, Team Trinity has a disaster mission that requires diagnosis and repair. I think there is a bug here, please check it.

Eighth, during an on-site repair task, I closed the cpu top cover, and then the top cover got stuck in the motherboard. I couldn't install the heat sink. I thought it was a bug.

Ninth, there is a mold penetration on the backstage wall of the game.

In addition, I hope that the game can be richer, for example, can be equipped with workstations, servers, etc. I am still dreaming about the eight-way Titan, LOL.

I really love this game. Thank you for making it. If you read it, can you reply to me or give me some rewards? LOL

best wishes,
A player from China
PlyrStar93 Aug 7, 2020 @ 7:00am 
For just a limited number of reviews posted for the DLC:

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198823570727/recommended/1252990/

* Disappointed with limited playability and no new hardwares

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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198823570727/recommended/1252990/

* Complains about a PC repair/upgrade job with SSD + PSU broken and CPU + GPU requiring upgrade all at the same time (so might as well just build a brand new one from scratch instead of diagnosing the one they sent in).
* A job asking to upgrade RAM from 8 GB to 32 GB, CPU cooler blocking RAM so changed to water cooling (could be AIO) and filled up all four RAM slots. Could not pass job and game still tells to diagnose problem
* Ended up finding out only original air cooler can be used

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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198299932114/recommended/1252990/

(mostly complaining about "bugs" or design flaws)
* Stuck at a bug during job, no broken parts, 3DMark / OCCT / virus / will-it-run OK, game still asking for diagnosis
* No option to leave work to resign due to "bug" (likely sarcasm)
* Team sponsor (Colorful) asking for 3 GTX 2080 Tis but low budget
* Team players smashed people with new 2080 Ti rigs and asking upgrade / repair last minute

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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198430958512/recommended/1252990/

* 7 days in a week and spending 4 days repairing PCs
* PC always breaks before weekend match, chance of middle-game countdown
* "why not buy lottery ticket with such good luck"

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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198123333117/recommended/1252990/

Complaints:
* Cannot replace parts (CPU fan, PSU) with cheaper ones
* Stuck at job due to bug, all parts removed and none are broken, virus and PC boot OK, game still says broken parts
* Jobs are repetitive
* Team players broke CPU, had to order new ones with expensive rush shipping
* Bad localization / translation misleading players and ended up unable to complete job

Suggestions:
* Consider "what should be done and what should not be done" by hardware tech support. e.g. lighting adjustment can be done by individual team player; does not want time-limiting repair jobs from "player's friends and relatives"
* Relax job restrictions on inferior parts, OK with rating and money penalty but does not want it being a hard rule for completing a job
* Match scene atmosphere "embarassing", suggesting about arenas with different themes and colors for different games
Last edited by PlyrStar93; Aug 7, 2020 @ 7:02am
iVAN Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:28pm 
First of all, you need a good Chinese translator to translate the game.
I have screenshot a few very low-level bugs, please pay attention to the color/CPU translation in the picture, you will be as surprised as I am to find, is this intentionally not allowed to play?(I will not upload the picture, you can see it in my screenshot)
For example, the light is required to be set to orange (255.165.0), but in the translation, only orange is required.Fortunately, I switched to English only to find that the original color is given.
For example, if I was asked to use an I7 8086 processor, the result in the Chinese version was really just "I need to use a Celeron processor". If I did not know that this poor translation had a wrong understanding of Chinese, and switched to English to view it, this was obviously an impossible task.

首先,你们需要一个好的中文翻译来翻译游戏。
我截图了几个非常低级的BUG,请注意图片中有关颜色/CPU等的要求翻译,你会跟我一样惊讶的发现,难道这是故意不让玩的么?
例如,要求灯光设置成橙色(255.165.0),但在翻译里,只是写需要橙色。幸亏我切换了英文才发现,原来是给了配色的。
再例如,要求用I7 8086处理器,结果中文版里写的确只是“我需要用赛扬处理器”如果不是我知道这个糟糕的翻译对中文理解有误,而切换英文来查看,这显然是个不可能完成的任务。
iVAN Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:32pm 
Most importantly, in China, we also use English abbreviations, such as CPU, memory, video card Mhz, etc., without anyone calling it CPU, which is obviously silly.Even if it's called a processor, it looks a little bit more normal.
Now, forgot to tell you, 1.80 new raiak Nyx Pro today has a BUG in it.It can not be installed integrated water cooling, only a few types of integrated water cooling can be installed, almost all 360 integrated water cooling can not be installed.Of course, that's acceptable.The problem is, a lot of times, the task is to fix it, and most of the time, the case comes with an all-in-one water cooler.As a result, you can't put it back in, and the mission fails.In the new version, I tried, and the BUG still exists.

最最主要的是,在中国,我们也使用英文简写,例如,CPU,内存,显卡Mhz等等,而没有任何人叫:中央处理器,这显然太傻了。哪怕是叫处理器也算显得正常一些。

哦对了,忘了说,1.80新出的机箱Raijintak nyx pro,有一个BUG。它无法安装一体水冷,目前只有几款一体水冷可以安装,360一体水冷几乎全部无法安装。当然,这个可以接受。问题是,很多时候,收到的任务是修理,而多数时候,这款机箱带的是一体水冷。结果就是,拆下来就无法再安装回去,导致任务失败。而在新版本中,我尝试过,这个BUG依旧存在。
iVAN Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:35pm 
Of course, I'm glad to see that in version 1.80, you fixed a BUG in the store where the CPU radiator height limit was not displayed.Although I still think this is due to the conversion to Chinese, because the "CPU" string is too long.
Again, for this DLC, you really need a Chinese translator, and he can do the job.Otherwise, please open the creative workshop and let us do the translation MOD by ourselves.
Alternatively, you can try using an "一体水冷"all-in-one water cooling
"And"分体水冷" split water cold to let Chinese players distinguish water cold.After all, that's what we call it in China.
Thank you for your attention.

当然,很高兴,在1.70版本,我多次反馈没有回音之后,我很欣慰的看到,你们在1.80版本中,把商店里的机箱部分CPU散热器限高不显示的BUG修复了。虽然我还是觉得,这是由于转换为中文后,因为“中央处理器”这个字串太长导致的。

重申下,这个DLC,你真的需要换一个中文翻译,且他能完成这份工作。不然麻烦请开启创意工坊,让我们自己做翻译MOD。

另外,你可以尝试使用“一体水冷”
和“分体水冷”来让中文玩家区分水冷。毕竟,我们在中国都这么叫它。
谢谢你的重视。
iVAN Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:40pm 
Or you can leave an EMAIL and I will send you the screenshot.I think it is not a translation error but a lack of work.

或者你留下EMAIL,我把截图发给你。我认为这是没有完成工作,而非翻译错误。
CPU - 简单 Aug 7, 2020 @ 7:19pm 
When I am confused with "Color of Aurora", I found this discussion and realized what happened.
I decide to wait until you fix them all.

Honestly, many Chinese players thought the best PCBS game version is the early version.
In that version we can replace their hardware by low tier parts, that makes lots of benefits.

It's a badass game and SO F***ING COOL.
Like me, many Chinese players were disappointed with the "BUG FIXED".
It's definitely not a "BUG". The same thing keeps happening in real life.

I'm not joking. In my view, that story just happens yesterday.
In Friday I helped an office lady to fix her new PC.
Her Win10 failed during update, BCD was broken and cannot boot.
We are not in same city, I told her to use DELL's Support Assist OS recovery.
But the seller changed that SSD, It's "MG"(麦光 in Chinese), a fxxking inferior ssd.
So there's no OS recovery at all.

I found the seller and asked him to give me 2 Win Pro 10 disks
By swearing and cursing all his family members. lol

We miss that, PLEASE
That's why your game spread so fast in Chinese PC DIY forums at EA stage.
Maybe you can use something like "moral points" to balance the game.
However, It's really F***ING COOL.
0x124BSOD Aug 7, 2020 @ 10:24pm 
More review translations:

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198282655071/recommended/1252990/
Complains about too few fan headers on Colorful Z390M GAMING V20 mobo to build custom loop (quest from "Team T" (trinity?)).

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198396467534/recommended/1252990/
Though he/she leaves positive review, it is still a complaint about "a pro player being unable to remove virus/change wallpaper is illogical".

https://steamcommunity.com/id/GateauPew/recommended/1252990/
Probably means the same thing as above.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198322725204/recommended/1252990/
About bugs and quest design flaws:
* Random mouse freeze only appear in esports DLC (need to relaunch the game)
* Not possible to replace with "msi memory sticks" as they are not in the game
* Cannot re-install cpu cooler after removal
* M.2 ssd compatibility

https://steamcommunity.com/id/PrussiaSaltfish/recommended/1252990/
This has no issue-related information but random sware.

Other thoughts on translation:
I will rate the translation at 6 (out of 10). Texts are readable but definitely not native. Many terms/units are lexically correct but very weird as no one says like that. And please do not translate email addresses.
Last edited by 0x124BSOD; Aug 7, 2020 @ 10:55pm
liye198981 Aug 8, 2020 @ 3:51am 
在新的DLC(电子竞技扩展),开始比赛后无法按F来开始比赛,无法强制结束比赛
Je suis Chinois! Aug 10, 2020 @ 6:10am 
很多词汇我只能切换成法语来继续游戏。
桑榆非晚 Aug 13, 2020 @ 9:04pm 
As for the picture of the game, I want to say that the RGB light is too bright or even dazzling. If you have any way to make the light more natural and real, it will be excellent

Then the water cooling water pipe is always blocked. We must know that such a thing rarely happens in reality. We can solve it by moving the water pipe, but it is fixed in the game, hoping to optimize it.

In addition, I'm looking forward to the server's dual motherboard and server memory kit. It's great to add these packages. Although the name of the game is PC, if I can, I'd like to buy it as a DLC
J.Fis Aug 13, 2020 @ 9:14pm 
Esports DLC still have some problem. Some time in Trinity team, I checked all the PC parts and still remind me have problem to fix. Can you guys fix it? This is the 2nd time I met this bug.
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