Help to get 20k in 3dmark

[ich bin ich]

Hi guys,i have 3 pcs and i cant get 20k,don't know why,can you help me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMrLW0JO0tw

[Turbo]

20k in 3DMark is pretty darn easy if you're using the correct components. You can do it on all air without the need to even bin for the best components or go crazy with RAM overclocks.

So, my suggestion would be to keep things simple and just go with an AIO build in something like the define R6. Use a 360mm AIO in the front, and install five QF140 fans in the rest of the slots (three up top, one in the back, and one in the bottom; you can fit a second fan on the bottom as well depending on the length of the power supply you go with). You'll need a minimum of 1200w for your PSU.

For the CPU, just about any of the high end CPUs will work, though I'd avoid the WX Threadripper processors as they are notoriously bad at overclocking. A 1950X or 2950X will work fine though. Even a Ryzen 2700X and Intel 8700K is more than enough.

For GPUs, go with the 2080 Tis. They're the absolute best option on air at this time.

With that, just throw as good of an overclock as you can at it and you should be golden.

[My Epic System]

Originally posted by Turbo:

20k in 3DMark is pretty darn easy if you're using the correct components. You can do it on all air without the need to even bin for the best components or go crazy with RAM overclocks.

So, my suggestion would be to keep things simple and just go with an AIO build in something like the define R6. Use a 360mm AIO in the front, and install five QF140 fans in the rest of the slots (three up top, one in the back, and one in the bottom; you can fit a second fan on the bottom as well depending on the length of the power supply you go with). You'll need a minimum of 1200w for your PSU.

For the CPU, just about any of the high end CPUs will work, though I'd avoid the WX Threadripper processors as they are notoriously bad at overclocking. A 1950X or 2950X will work fine though. Even a Ryzen 2700X and Intel 8700K is more than enough.

For GPUs, go with the 2080 Tis. They're the absolute best option on air at this time.

With that, just throw as good of an overclock as you can at it and you should be golden.

what does it mean to bin a component?

[Brittimus]

Originally posted by My Epic System:

what does it mean to bin a component?

It means to try multiple components of the same make and model to try and find the one that will perform the best. There is a real life thing called the "silicon lottery." Basically because of differences in manufacturing each and every processor or graphics card or whatever it is will have some slight variation. So in the case of 2 identical CPU's one of them will be able to achieve a higher clock speed than the other due to these variations. The rated speed of a processor, RAM module, graphics card, etc. is basically the guaranteed minimum from the manufacturer but it's possible you might be able to get it to run at higher speeds. So when you're binning that's what you're looking for. The component that is able to go the fastest. And PCBS implements this silicon lottery through RNG.

[ich bin ich]

Originally posted by Turbo:

20k in 3DMark is pretty darn easy if you're using the correct components. You can do it on all air without the need to even bin for the best components or go crazy with RAM overclocks.

So, my suggestion would be to keep things simple and just go with an AIO build in something like the define R6. Use a 360mm AIO in the front, and install five QF140 fans in the rest of the slots (three up top, one in the back, and one in the bottom; you can fit a second fan on the bottom as well depending on the length of the power supply you go with). You'll need a minimum of 1200w for your PSU.

For the CPU, just about any of the high end CPUs will work, though I'd avoid the WX Threadripper processors as they are notoriously bad at overclocking. A 1950X or 2950X will work fine though. Even a Ryzen 2700X and Intel 8700K is more than enough.

For GPUs, go with the 2080 Tis. They're the absolute best option on air at this time.

With that, just throw as good of an overclock as you can at it and you should be golden.

the motherboard does not matter? i can get any? and about memory?

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Originally posted by My Epic System:

what does it mean to bin a component?

In real life it's called "Silicon Lottery". You can literally take 1000 CPU's and put them in a box in real life and pull out all of them, one by one, and test and overclock all of them, one at a time and you will have completely different performance for every single one of them. Even if all of the chips are the exact same model. All of them will run different maximum temperature, different maximum overclock, and a different power draw while overclocked.

In-Game in PCBS it's called "Binning" and is the same thing. They literally take 500 (or more) processors that are exactly the same and try to overclock all of them until they have one lucky "Golden" chip that will overclock higher than all the other chips they tested. And then repeat and do it again.. 1 max-clocked ram stick out of 500-600 ram sticks. Then do it again, another golden stick out of 500-600 or so ram sticks and keep repeating until you have 4 max-clocked ram sticks and then do it all over again for gpu's.

You can not expect to just grab the same parts and stick them in a computer and get their score. That's not how computers or overclocking works, either IRL or in PCBS.

I would suggest you take a read through this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1553822757

[ich bin ich]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Originally posted by My Epic System:

what does it mean to bin a component?

In real life it's called "Silicon Lottery". You can literally take 1000 CPU's and put them in a box in real life and pull out all of them, one by one, and test and overclock all of them, one at a time and you will have completely different performance for every single one of them. Even if all of the chips are the exact same model. All of them will run different maximum temperature, different maximum overclock, and a different power draw while overclocked.

In-Game in PCBS it's called "Binning" and is the same thing. They literally take 500 (or more) processors that are exactly the same and try to overclock all of them until they have one lucky "Golden" chip that will overclock higher than all the other chips they tested. And then repeat and do it again.. 1 max-clocked ram stick out of 500-600 ram sticks. Then do it again, another golden stick out of 500-600 or so ram sticks and keep repeating until you have 4 max-clocked ram sticks and then do it all over again for gpu's.

You can not expect to just grab the same parts and stick them in a computer and get their score. That's not how computers or overclocking works, either IRL or in PCBS.

I would suggest you take a read through this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1553822757

lol,this is take forever to do this..

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Originally posted by Rédichoti:

lol,this is take forever to do this..

Yep. It takes forever in real life, too. You asked what binning is, that's what binning is. That's how you get the really high scores in 3dmark. It's the only way both real life and in-game.

[ich bin ich]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Originally posted by Rédichoti:

lol,this is take forever to do this..

Yep. It takes forever in real life, too. You asked what binning is, that's what binning is. That's how you get the really high scores in 3dmark. It's the only way both real life and in-game.

lol hahaha,i just want the achievement,but if takes forever,i give up hahaha,but ty for your help

[ich bin ich]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Originally posted by Rédichoti:

lol,this is take forever to do this..

Yep. It takes forever in real life, too. You asked what binning is, that's what binning is. That's how you get the really high scores in 3dmark. It's the only way both real life and in-game.

it's is funny is because i got 20k by luck but i didn't receive the achievement

https://steamcommunity.com/id/headshot0052/screenshot/957481739289377356

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/957481739289377356/24A7692333E2CE94ACA5070FA7B7506CB1D49B19/

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Originally posted by Rédichoti:

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Yep. It takes forever in real life, too. You asked what binning is, that's what binning is. That's how you get the really high scores in 3dmark. It's the only way both real life and in-game.

lol hahaha,i just want the achievement,but if takes forever,i give up hahaha,but ty for your help

If you just want the achievement then build a 7980xe system with 4800 mhz ram, load XMP in bios, install two RTX 2080 Ti's and go benchmark.

[Turbo]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

If you just want the achievement then build a 7980xe system with 4800 mhz ram, load XMP in bios, install two RTX 2080 Ti's and go benchmark.

This, essentially. You'll need to OC the cards a bit, but you by no means need to bin for just a 20k score. If you were going after something like 26k, you'd need to bin, but not 20k.

[ich bin ich]

I did it guys,thank you all!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1653992266
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/957482006810384077/EA6D55820518807A0214D50D138FEB4426605FE5/

[My Epic System]

Originally posted by bratliff121:

Originally posted by My Epic System:

what does it mean to bin a component?

It means to try multiple components of the same make and model to try and find the one that will perform the best. There is a real life thing called the "silicon lottery." Basically because of differences in manufacturing each and every processor or graphics card or whatever it is will have some slight variation. So in the case of 2 identical CPU's one of them will be able to achieve a higher clock speed than the other due to these variations. The rated speed of a processor, RAM module, graphics card, etc. is basically the guaranteed minimum from the manufacturer but it's possible you might be able to get it to run at higher speeds. So when you're binning that's what you're looking for. The component that is able to go the fastest. And PCBS implements this silicon lottery through RNG.

oh, thanks!

[My Epic System]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Originally posted by My Epic System:

what does it mean to bin a component?

In real life it's called "Silicon Lottery". You can literally take 1000 CPU's and put them in a box in real life and pull out all of them, one by one, and test and overclock all of them, one at a time and you will have completely different performance for every single one of them. Even if all of the chips are the exact same model. All of them will run different maximum temperature, different maximum overclock, and a different power draw while overclocked.

In-Game in PCBS it's called "Binning" and is the same thing. They literally take 500 (or more) processors that are exactly the same and try to overclock all of them until they have one lucky "Golden" chip that will overclock higher than all the other chips they tested. And then repeat and do it again.. 1 max-clocked ram stick out of 500-600 ram sticks. Then do it again, another golden stick out of 500-600 or so ram sticks and keep repeating until you have 4 max-clocked ram sticks and then do it all over again for gpu's.

You can not expect to just grab the same parts and stick them in a computer and get their score. That's not how computers or overclocking works, either IRL or in PCBS.

I would suggest you take a read through this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1553822757

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... i had no idea pc building could be like that...

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Originally posted by My Epic System:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... i had no idea pc building could be like that...

Kind of.. stuff like that isn't really for "Computer building" it's more for competitive overclocking to attempt to take world records online.