Anti-virus removal still necessary?

[Everhard Dawnwood]

Do I still need to remove bitdefender to make this game run or has it been fixed so it'll work just like all other games I have? 😃

[Turbo]

I can't speak for Bitdefender, but I've never had an issue with it with my AV.

Just as an idea, most AV programs have an ignore list to which you can add programs that falsely trigger the AV. Bitdefender is a pretty well regarded program so I can't imagine they don't have some sort of ignore list.

[Everhard Dawnwood]

Originally posted by Turbo:

I can't speak for Bitdefender, but I've never had an issue with it with my AV.

Just as an idea, most AV programs have an ignore list to which you can add programs that falsely trigger the AV. Bitdefender is a pretty well regarded program so I can't imagine they don't have some sort of ignore list.

I know, but problem isnt that bitdefender blocks it, as theres no signs of it doing so in the log or anything else.

The game simply wouldnt run and I was told by a dev to disable or perhaps even uninstall my AV solution and thats not acceptable to me, so I claimed a refund and decided to come back in a few weeks to see if they have fixed the problem with their game, as I do like the idea of this game and it looks very enticing indeed too. :-D

So as soon as I can get a confirmation that the game actually works, ill re-buy it and probably enjoy playing it as well. :-)

[Brittimus]

Originally posted by SizZLeR:

Originally posted by Turbo:

I can't speak for Bitdefender, but I've never had an issue with it with my AV.

Just as an idea, most AV programs have an ignore list to which you can add programs that falsely trigger the AV. Bitdefender is a pretty well regarded program so I can't imagine they don't have some sort of ignore list.

I know, but problem isnt that bitdefender blocks it, as theres no signs of it doing so in the log or anything else.

The game simply wouldnt run and I was told by a dev to disable or perhaps even uninstall my AV solution and thats not acceptable to me, so I claimed a refund and decided to come back in a few weeks to see if they have fixed the problem with their game, as I do like the idea of this game and it looks very enticing indeed too. :-D

So as soon as I can get a confirmation that the game actually works, ill re-buy it and probably enjoy playing it as well. :-)

Out of curiosity did you at least try running it with your AV disabled? Are you sure that was the problem?

[Everhard Dawnwood]

Im more sure it wasnt the AV, because if Bitdefender blocks something, it tells you and it logs the event as well and there are nothing in the log regarding that game. :-/

The idea of disabling/uninstalling AV was a dev in here who told me that might be necessary and thats when I decided Id leave it until its fixed. :-)
It was the only reply/suggestion I got to make the game run, so I decided to wait for a proper fix rather than using a risky workaround.

The computer I use is for more purposes than just running games and I cant risk getting some nasty virus or ransomware on it just to run a game, so I dont disable my AV software just like that......probably also why I havent had a virus since I switched away from Norton over a decade ago. :-D

[Brittimus]

Originally posted by SizZLeR:

Im more sure it wasnt the AV, because if Bitdefender blocks something, it tells you and it logs the event as well and there are nothing in the log regarding that game. :-/

The idea of disabling/uninstalling AV was a dev in here who told me that might be necessary and thats when I decided Id leave it until its fixed. :-)
It was the only reply/suggestion I got to make the game run, so I decided to wait for a proper fix rather than using a risky workaround.

The computer I use is for more purposes than just running games and I cant risk getting some nasty virus or ransomware on it just to run a game, so I dont disable my AV software just like that......probably also why I havent had a virus since I switched away from Norton over a decade ago. :-D

Well to be fair Norton pretty much is a virus. I agree it seems unlikely that Bitdefender would silently kill it but AV can be weird sometimes. I think you'd be fine disabling it temporarily if you wanted to try it out as long as you're not simultaneously checking out the weirder corners of the interwebs but I don't blame you if you don't want to try it. The only other thing I would check is the specs on your computer to make sure it meets the minimum requirements. I will say I haven't had any problems running the game ever on 2 different machines so I think it's at least worth a shot.

[Everhard Dawnwood]

Originally posted by bratliff121:

Originally posted by SizZLeR:

Im more sure it wasnt the AV, because if Bitdefender blocks something, it tells you and it logs the event as well and there are nothing in the log regarding that game. :-/

The idea of disabling/uninstalling AV was a dev in here who told me that might be necessary and thats when I decided Id leave it until its fixed. :-)
It was the only reply/suggestion I got to make the game run, so I decided to wait for a proper fix rather than using a risky workaround.

The computer I use is for more purposes than just running games and I cant risk getting some nasty virus or ransomware on it just to run a game, so I dont disable my AV software just like that......probably also why I havent had a virus since I switched away from Norton over a decade ago. :-D

Well to be fair Norton pretty much is a virus. I agree it seems unlikely that Bitdefender would silently kill it but AV can be weird sometimes. I think you'd be fine disabling it temporarily if you wanted to try it out as long as you're not simultaneously checking out the weirder corners of the interwebs but I don't blame you if you don't want to try it. The only other thing I would check is the specs on your computer to make sure it meets the minimum requirements. I will say I haven't had any problems running the game ever on 2 different machines so I think it's at least worth a shot.

Agree with Norton AV, it was (at least back in the days) VERY heavy to pull and didnt offer that much protection really. :-/

Thats why I looked up the reviews and found that Bitdefender and Kaspersky were sharing 1st place everywhere (more or less).

Requirements shouldnt be a problem, im on Ryzen 5 2600, GTX1070 and 16GB Kingston HyperX 3000Mhz memory. :-)

Regarding disabling AV, I have ofc done it a few times, but not for trying to make a game work, as that shouldnt be necessary imo. ^^

I did notice a lot of ppl were running the game ok, so thats also why I figured, that AV couldnt be the real issue, as others wouldve run into that.

Wish there'd just be a demo to test out, because if itll run, ill buy it.......but im not quite sure you can have a game refunded twice on Steam?

[Qybr]

Originally posted by SizZLeR:

Originally posted by bratliff121:

Well to be fair Norton pretty much is a virus. I agree it seems unlikely that Bitdefender would silently kill it but AV can be weird sometimes. I think you'd be fine disabling it temporarily if you wanted to try it out as long as you're not simultaneously checking out the weirder corners of the interwebs but I don't blame you if you don't want to try it. The only other thing I would check is the specs on your computer to make sure it meets the minimum requirements. I will say I haven't had any problems running the game ever on 2 different machines so I think it's at least worth a shot.

Agree with Norton AV, it was (at least back in the days) VERY heavy to pull and didnt offer that much protection really. :-/

Thats why I looked up the reviews and found that Bitdefender and Kaspersky were sharing 1st place everywhere (more or less).

Requirements shouldnt be a problem, im on Ryzen 5 2600, GTX1070 and 16GB Kingston HyperX 3000Mhz memory. :-)

Regarding disabling AV, I have ofc done it a few times, but not for trying to make a game work, as that shouldnt be necessary imo. ^^

I did notice a lot of ppl were running the game ok, so thats also why I figured, that AV couldnt be the real issue, as others wouldve run into that.

Wish there'd just be a demo to test out, because if itll run, ill buy it.......but im not quite sure you can have a game refunded twice on Steam?

Im Not Sure About Refund Twice But You Could try The Game With Windows defender on And Bitdefender Off Then You Would Still Be Protected From Viruses And Maybe be able to Play The Game. Also Sometimes you need to wait For PCBS I Have To Wait Like 2 Minutes For It To Load And If It Was Your First Try It Took Mine Half An Hour So Maybe Just Wait.

[Turbo]

This is why I love and recommend ESET Nod 32 so much. I've been running it for years now and never dealt with a compatibility issue. It's also super stealthy. You can be in the middle of a seriously demanding game and it'll start a scheduled scan and you'll never know it. It also has one of the most comprehensive virus databases on the market. Out of all the AV programs I've tried (which includes Bitdefender, Kaspersky, and Norton) it's by far the best I've ever had.

[Brittimus]

Originally posted by KittyKat:

I only use the built in Windows Defender on Windows 10. Never ever had a virus or malware or ransomware or any other malicious software. These third party antivirus programs just aren't necessary.
Then again, i don't go visiting any dodgy websites either.

Same. Windows XP was better but Windows Defender does a fine job on Windows 10 unless you're doing some serious sketchy website viewing.

[TwinShadow]

I dumped BitDefender when it kept ignoring its exception list. It was driving me insane because Symantec Endpoint Protection was doing the same thing. And BitDefender had a bit of an annoying UI so it was hard to tell which of the 3 exception lists to use or whatever.

You can try putting the game in the exceptions or switch to another AV. For now I'm using E-SET NOD32 and its doing fairly well for my needs. At least this time its actually honoring the exceptions list.. Other than that, I don't know what else there is to say regarding the matter.

If the game's EXE is still tripping BitDefender, what the developers need to do is submit the EXE to them to whitelist so that the definitions can be updated. I actually seem to recall this very topic a while back, so the advice of simply just uninstalling the AV is actually one of the stupidest things I've heard in a while. Temp disable is one thing, but not flat out uninstalling.

[Everhard Dawnwood]

Ive never had compatibility issues before with BD, the only thing that it blocks is by my request for ransomware protection and thats the doocuments folder which is used by some games and programs, but I just allow them and problem is solved. ;-)

Regarding stealthnyess, BD is stealthy just the same as you describe esetnod to be, thats part of why I( like using it, it doesnt come up and bother you all the time, it just works.

However, in my case with this single game here, the problem doesnt even seem to be av related, thats just the sparse reply I got from a dev, rubbing it of on someone elses software, always the easiest way to get around dealing with support stuff :-P ^^


Just read thru some other threads in here, it seems my issue with the game not running is merely a petty concern compared to all the other issues with the game itself......one that hit me was the thing about having to constantly sit and wait for benchmarks, regardless of what task youre doing (can anyone confirm?) Oo

[Turbo]

Originally posted by SizZLeR:

However, in my case with this single game here, the problem doesnt even seem to be av related, thats just the sparse reply I got from a dev, rubbing it of on someone elses software, always the easiest way to get around dealing with support stuff :-P ^^


Just read thru some other threads in here, it seems my issue with the game not running is merely a petty concern compared to all the other issues with the game itself......one that hit me was the thing about having to constantly sit and wait for benchmarks, regardless of what task youre doing (can anyone confirm?) Oo

Are you absolutely positive that the person you got a response from was a dev? Unless the name was Wizzy or Frandroid, it wasn't actually a dev for this game.

As for the "sit and wait through benchmark" thing, it's really not that bad. The bench is only 90 seconds long and, unless you're just really horrible at multitasking the three to four jobs you have per day, you'll always have other stuff to do while it's running. The only time you'll ever have to worry about maybe sitting through the whole thing is in the first few levels before you can unlock the second workbench.

[Everhard Dawnwood]

>>Turbo

I recall it as an official, but Ill have to see if I can find the thread in here to verify, because I cant guaranteee a 100% whether it was a fev or not, ill see if I can find the thread. :-)

Cant find it, I dunno if it has something to do with me getting a refund and uninstalling the game?

None the less, the "Benchmark" issue sounds like its perhaps not all that bad after all and eventually I suspect theyd fix it in case several users sees it as a problem.

Ill keep following the game on Steam and re-buy when it seems to hit a point of being well functioning. :-D

Ty for all the input guys. :-)