Networking Simulator Would Be Awesome Too.

[VG_Elder]

After going through and getting my CompTIA A+ certification I found this game and how helpful it would be to those studying to get their certifications. There isn't any really good hands on learning tools for PC Building but this one really brings it home. I've built gaming PC's for as long as we could build them and I must say this game comes fairly close. Not sure if they intended as a learning tool for IT Porfessionals but it does very well in that aspect. Especally the troubleshooting aspects you need to know for the certification exams.

I would love to see a Cisco Networking Simulator on this level as well. They have great simulators for core IOS work (Packet Tracer, GNS, etc....) but the look and feel of hooking up a network is not there. I'm sure Cisco would be on board for a project like that becasue they are very proactive about education on their product. Their Learning Acamendy is free for anyone to come in and take their free courses.

[Sid1701d]

Actually that is just as munch a part of PC simulator so maybe it could be a expansion DLC or something. I found that this game covers the basics, there is a tutorial in the game for though that want to learn how to build a pc. However, the most important part of the exam is the terminalolgy and this game covers it pretty well for some poeple that learn better visually. I wish I had this game when I frst started messing with computers though. I am pretty sure if its a hit maybe some pc repair companies might make a bid for a true form version of the Simulator to train the techs without frying real computers.

Edit: Please note I said COULD BE, for though that think its funny to misunderstand my writting.

Edit: Disclaimer, this is just a idea, and does not mean the developers or anyone will or will not add expansion packs or DLC, it is truely up to them, so take this with a grain of salt or pepper.

[Turbo]

@VG_Elder, as far as we know, there are no current plans to add any networking/server content to the game. The question has been asked directly of the devs on the official Discord server and their reply was essentially, "not really, but if we do consider it, it won't be until after full release."

@Sid1701d, the more you post, the more you give me the impression that you're trying really hard to seem that you're knowledgeable about PCs. However, with every post you actually make it more apparent that you don't really know all that much about PCs.

Dont get me wrong though, you sound like a pretty smart kid that is really into PCs and has read a lot about them, but you don't seem have a whole lot of experience with how all that PC theory translates to practical applications.

Not trying to be mean, just letting you know how it looks.

[VG_Elder]

Originally posted by Turbo:

@VG_Elder, as far as we know, there are no current plans to add any networking/server content to the game. The question has been asked directly of the devs on the official Discord server and their reply was essentially, "not really, but if we do consider it, it won't be until after full release."

@Sid1701d, the more you post, the more you give me the impression that you're trying really hard to seem that you're knowledgeable about PCs. However, with every post you actually make it more apparent that you don't really know all that much about PCs.

Dont get me wrong though, you sound like a pretty smart kid that is really into PCs and has read a lot about them, but you don't seem have a whole lot of experience with how all that PC theory translates to practical applications.

Not trying to be mean, just letting you know how it looks.

Why the insult to Sid1701d? So this person need to be singled out because your opinion of their lack of experience? The whole point of this game is to learn in a fun way. This isn't the NewEgg website and people's building skill levels are not coming into question here. Sid is actully correct that it does just cover the basics but the important aspects are there as well. Motherboard form factors, types of memory, and CPU chipsets are hard concepts to wrap your head around until you make them tanglable.

If you carefully read my post, there is no mention of making an expansion for networking. The concepts are too complex to stuff it into this game. The post merely states how good this simulation concept is and how it would fit into other roles.

[Brittimus]

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

If you carefully read my post, there is no mention of making an expansion for networking. The concepts are too complex to stuff it into this game. The post merely states how good this simulation concept is and how it would fit into other roles.

Well you're posting on the PCBS forum so it only makes sense to assume you would be discussing PCBS. Why would you come here to talk about another game? You're not wrong but neither is Turbo. If you don't want to talk about an idea like this in the context of PCBS I'd suggest posting somewhere else.

[VG_Elder]

Originally posted by bratliff121:

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

If you carefully read my post, there is no mention of making an expansion for networking. The concepts are too complex to stuff it into this game. The post merely states how good this simulation concept is and how it would fit into other roles.

Well you're posting on the PCBS forum so it only makes sense to assume you would be discussing PCBS. Why would you come here to talk about another game? You're not wrong but neither is Turbo. If you don't want to talk about an idea like this in the context of PCBS I'd suggest posting somewhere else.

I suggest you let the moderators deem what is important and allowed to be discuss in this group. Since I don't see a moderator tag next to your name, your input is of no consequence to this post.

[VG_Elder]

Originally posted by Turbo:

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

Why the insult to Sid1701d?

It was not meant as an insult at all, but more as constructive criticism. Like I said, he seems like a smart kid, he just needs more practical experience to better apply the knowledge he does have.

So you felt it was your "responsibility" to point out what you perceive as shortcomings. I read the post you attacked him/her in and there was nothing wrong with the content although the wording was a bit confusing. Although you tried to disguise it as "constructive criticism" it can be and was perceived as an insult, at least by me. Trying getting to know someone before you make such statements about their character.

[Brittimus]

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

Originally posted by bratliff121:

Well you're posting on the PCBS forum so it only makes sense to assume you would be discussing PCBS. Why would you come here to talk about another game? You're not wrong but neither is Turbo. If you don't want to talk about an idea like this in the context of PCBS I'd suggest posting somewhere else.

I suggest you let the moderators deem what is important and allowed to be discuss in this group. Since I don't see a moderator tag next to your name, your input is of no consequence to this post.

At what point was I moderating? I'm not determining what should or shouldn't be here but I am pointing out that if you post here people will read it in the context of the game. Maybe you should let the moderators deem what is of consequence to a post.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

After going through and getting my CompTIA A+ certification I found this game and how helpful it would be to those studying to get their certifications. There isn't any really good hands on learning tools for PC Building but this one really brings it home. I've built gaming PC's for as long as we could build them and I must say this game comes fairly close. Not sure if they intended as a learning tool for IT Porfessionals but it does very well in that aspect. Especally the troubleshooting aspects you need to know for the certification exams.

I would love to see a Cisco Networking Simulator on this level as well. They have great simulators for core IOS work (Packet Tracer, GNS, etc....) but the look and feel of hooking up a network is not there. I'm sure Cisco would be on board for a project like that becasue they are very proactive about education on their product. Their Learning Acamendy is free for anyone to come in and take their free courses.

I think you're confused. You see this is the PCBS forums for the steam game PCBS. Here in this forum most users generally try to discuss the game, and not real life computers. Real life computers have nothing to do with PCBS, It's mostly fictional because it's a simulator. If you want to discuss real life computers and real life networking then there's the steam hardware forum that is much better suited for that type of discussion. Here's a link for you: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/

[VG_Elder]

Wow. It seems we have a few people who need to be reminded of the rules so here we go:

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So unless your have the moderator tag next to your name it's not your place to say if this post belongs here or not.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

Wow. It seems we have a few people who need to be reminded of the rules so here we go:

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No Backseat Moderating

Let the moderators do the moderating. Backseat moderating is when people who are not moderators try to enforce the forum rules. If you see a person breaking the rules, take advantage of the Report () button or simply ignore the offensive post(s), thread, or review.
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So unless your have the moderator tag next to your name it's not your place to say if this post belongs here or not.

No one has done any such thing. I never once claimed to be a moderator in any way. Perhaps you may want to read my post again. I only provided you suggestions to help you with your apparent confusion regarding where on steam you should be posting this thread. If you were to post this in the steam hardware forums instead of PCBS then you would reach a significantly higher audience and in turn a better response to your thread. The reason I suggested the steam hardware forums is there are a lot more people over there compared to the small player base for the PCBS forums.

It seems to me that you're even further confused what "Backseat Moderating" even means as well. Try reading the description again. I have never attempted to "Enforce" anything upon you.

[Brittimus]

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

Wow. It seems we have a few people who need to be reminded of the rules so here we go:

____________________________________________________________
No Backseat Moderating

Let the moderators do the moderating. Backseat moderating is when people who are not moderators try to enforce the forum rules. If you see a person breaking the rules, take advantage of the Report () button or simply ignore the offensive post(s), thread, or review.
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So unless your have the moderator tag next to your name it's not your place to say if this post belongs here or not.

Report everyone you think is backseat moderating then. Nobody has in any way attempted to be a moderator here. Everyone you claim has been moderating has only been pointing out that this forum is for PCBS therefore anything you post here is going to be interpreted through that lens. If you want to talk about something else it makes more sense to do that somewhere else but you're free to post wherever you want to. Posting the forum rules to remind others not to enforce the forum rules is hilarious though.

[VG_Elder]

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

Wow. It seems we have a few people who need to be reminded of the rules so here we go:

____________________________________________________________
No Backseat Moderating

Let the moderators do the moderating. Backseat moderating is when people who are not moderators try to enforce the forum rules. If you see a person breaking the rules, take advantage of the Report () button or simply ignore the offensive post(s), thread, or review.
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So unless your have the moderator tag next to your name it's not your place to say if this post belongs here or not.

No one has done any such thing. I never once claimed to be a moderator in any way. Perhaps you may want to read my post again. I only provided you suggestions to help you with your apparent confusion.

So by telling me not to post this in the game forum in no way makes you a moderator.....hmmm, interesting.

Read the post before you comment of the post becuase as I stated:

"After going through and getting my CompTIA A+ certification I found this game and how helpful it would be to those studying to get their certifications."

Then I went on to state how nice it would be if there was a similar network simulation game out there that was Cisco based. Maybe the devs had another game in the works?

The only confusion here is why you think it's your place to say what people can and can't post here.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Originally posted by bratliff121:

Posting the forum rules to remind others not to enforce the forum rules is hilarious though.

In fact, seeing VG_Elder quoting the forum rules at us really looks far more like something an actual moderator would do than anything any of us have said so far in this thread. It reads to me like user VG_Elder is the one doing the actual "BackSeat Moderating" here.

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

So by telling me not to post this in the game forum in no way makes you a moderator.....hmmm, interesting.

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

The only confusion here is why you think it's your place to say what people can and can't post here.

Again, I would suggest you re-read my posts. I have never once in this thread actually "Told you" to do anything. I have never said "you can't post here" as you are claiming. I have only provided polite suggestions to you. Please do not invent and make up words that I did not say.

[VG_Elder]

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

Originally posted by bratliff121:

Posting the forum rules to remind others not to enforce the forum rules is hilarious though.

In fact, seeing VG_Elder quoting the forum rules at us really looks far more like something an actual moderator would do than anything any of us have said so far in this thread. It reads to me like user VG_Elder is the one doing the actual "BackSeat Moderating" here.

So this have devolved into a "I know you are but what am I?" debate? Seeing your names pop up in several posts it seems you all feel you have the right to police this forum. Hey, you get your wish because I'm reporting the wannabe moderators here.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Originally posted by VG_Elder:

So this have devolved into a "I know you are but what am I?" debate? Seeing your names pop up in several posts it seems you all feel you have the right to police this forum. Hey, you get your wish because I'm reporting the wannabe moderators here.

You're welcome to report anything you wish of course, that is your prerogative. However: I have done nothing wrong here and I have not violated any steam forum rules nor any PCBS forum rules. In fact I thought I was trying to -HELP- you find a better response to your post by suggesting a bigger place to post it in. But it seems you view help by random strangers as something you must combat and attack in life.

My name pops up so much around here because I (usually) enjoy helping others and try to show them answers to questions they ask on the forums, if I know where to find those answers. I know I'm not a forum moderator. I have never behaved as a forum moderator and I never claimed to be one.