Never go full RGB!

[Defiant Squirrel]

I like RGB, it acts like an idiot flag, I know that when I meet someone at a LAN party who cares more about how his rig looks than how it performs, and feels the need to draw attention to his set up (like one of those prats who plays their car stereo at speaker distorting volume levels with the windows down), then the best thing to do is save myself some valuable time and effort and immediately disengage.
　
Halfwits do RGB, total imbeciles overdo RGB and real PCMers eschew the pointless counter productive tinsel and focus their resources upon achieving the best results.

Remember - RGB costs money, eats power, increases heat and interferes with airflow, and no matter how slight those negative effects may be, RGB absolutely goes against everything that building a rig is supposed to be about, and excessive RGB glows like a neon sign advertising the owners sheeplike trend following stupidity.

[Jacknm2]

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You do realise that LED's used for RGB consume very little power and produce no heat right? thats how they work.

The current flowing through the wires that power them, and the additional load placed upon the PSU absolutely generates extra heat .

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Any way, thanks for calling myself and others who have High performance RGB Setups "Idiots" simply because I like to light up my rig and change the colours on a whim when i feel like it.

And what would you call someone who pays more to make a tool less efficient?

Have you even looked at a wattage meter when those systems run? Ohh and paid less :)

No you're just a troll END of disscussion.

[Defiant Squirrel]

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RGB is here to stay. If you want high end components at the top performance in 2018 you get RGB with it, you don't have a choice.

Where I am left with no option in terms of buying a component that is RGB free, I take it to the workshop and remove all trace of the RGB and any related wiring, circuitry etc, and in doing so I gain increased performance, improved efficiency and of course maximize the amount of free space within the case which aids airflow and heat management.

I'm currently in the process of starting a 'real life' business with a like minded friend, we already build and design rigs, but we're going to specialize in de-RGBing everything from mobo's to RAM sticks, we've already come up with some designs for things like replacement shrouds and 3D printed casings, we'll provide a service for those who are tired of being forced to pay for something that looks absurd and makes the final product functionally worse. If we absolutely must pay for crap that we don't want, why not pay a little more to have the unwanted crap removed while gaining performance and efficiency improvements?

[Jacknm2]

You absoluetly have the right to have PC's RGB free, Doesnt make you an idiot or a genius. Your outright attitude towards calling others simply because your tastes are different is what's idiotic.

Thats what caught me out. I thought it was outright disrespectful you can say "I think your tastes are vulgar and not for me " but you didnt, you went and attacked people. I have the option for RGB and I usually have everything set to a static white colour but can change if i choose too. I believe it compliments my tempered glass case and setup as a whole, in the end we can choose to make these rigs to our own personal tastes because we are the ones seeing them most of the time.

The heat and power draw argument is just not even feasable 18 LED's at full usage dont even take 1.6 watts! Weight isnt a factor either, whilst i think RGB in RAM and SSD's is taking it too far, i don't belittle others because of my opinion. I'm no snow flake but i dont go around making statements like that because at the end of the day this PC isnt just a tool to me its a hobby, interest and I'm proud of it, so if i want it lit up statically or have going like a rainbow I have the option.

Both I and IRT build PC's for ourselves and customers and have been doing so for quite some time, did you think you were the only one who would on these forums? So because you are tired of paying extra for RGB you don't want (fair point) you decide to do it yourselves and charge others more for non-RGB? excellent idea for extortion of your like minded "intellects", I think I'd be the idiot, buy RGB for cheaper and turn it OFF.

Edit: Also, if you wish to provide evidence on RGB making performance worse than it would without RGB, please provide evidence for it doing so. And not something from 3+ years ago, something relevant. If you start claiming something be preapared to be challeneged to show your proof.

[djpudz]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Red Squirrel:

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RGB is here to stay. If you want high end components at the top performance in 2018 you get RGB with it, you don't have a choice.

Where I am left with no option in terms of buying a component that is RGB free, I take it to the workshop and remove all trace of the RGB and any related wiring, circuitry etc, and in doing so I gain increased performance, improved efficiency and of course maximize the amount of free space within the case which aids airflow and heat management.

I'm currently in the process of starting a 'real life' business with a like minded friend, we already build and design rigs, but we're going to specialize in de-RGBing everything from mobo's to RAM sticks, we've already come up with some designs for things like replacement shrouds and 3D printed casings, we'll provide a service for those who are tired of being forced to pay for something that looks absurd and makes the final product functionally worse. If we absolutely must pay for crap that we don't want, why not pay a little more to have the unwanted crap removed while gaining performance and efficiency improvements?

Good luck you will be bankrupt within a week with your attitude. whether you like it or not, its not your choice whether someone else would like RGB components or not. Acting like a NAZI against RGB will just alienate you from customers and lose business.
All you arguments for not using it are absolute nonsense. RGB has no effect on performance whatsoever. Your argument about heat increase is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, clearly you dont understand how LEDs work. power increase is also so minimal that you wouldnt be able to tell the difference.

Also how is anybody forced to pay for RGB? you do realise that companies will build a system to your exact specs already, you wont be offering anything new by making systems without RGB, your just ensuring that customers who want RGB will go elsewhere.

BTW no i dont have an RGB setup before you presume but i still think your an idiot for hating something for no reason other than you dont like it

[Defiant Squirrel]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Impending Rentacle Tape:

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Of course that is explained to the client, we do a lot of bespoke warranty voiding modifications to all kinds of components, regular clients simply don't care, they know and accept the risk, they trust our abilities and the ends always justify the means.

The de-RGBing is a new idea, I've been ripping out RGB crap for a couple of years and I learned a lot about what's possible, we are working on an experimental concept build right now that involves complete dismantling and reconstruction of many key components, we needed to design and make several new parts including RAM casings, GPU shoud and mobo trim, so far so good and we are seeing good perfomance gains, especially with airflow and reduced power draw.

[Jacknm2]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Red Squirrel:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Impending Rentacle Tape:

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Of course that is explained to the client, we do a lot of bespoke warranty voiding modifications to all kinds of components, regular clients simply don't care, they know and accept the risk, they trust our abilities and the ends always justify the means.

The de-RGBing is a new idea, I've been ripping out RGB crap for a couple of years and I learned a lot about what's possible, we are working on a buuild right now that involves complete dismantling and reconstruction of many key components, we needed to design and make several new parts including RAM casings, GPU shoud and mobo trim, so far so good and we are seeing good perfomance gains, especially with airflow and reduced power draw.

Show proof or its all just conjecture.

[Running-Target]

Check this video > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30fAvrpj18

[Defiant Squirrel]

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Check this video > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30fAvrpj18

This video proves my point, if you want to be 'that RGB guy' go ahead, be a fool, allow yourself to be shamelessly exploited by the marketing men, sacrifice performance and value for pretty lights, the rest of us will stick with what actually matters when it comes to building a PC.

[Rusle123]

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e can have looks, AND high performance at the same time

There's always a trade off, you can have more of one or less of both.

I come from the future, and truly, you can have both. Money doesn't have to be allocated in the PC necessarily. Instead of taking money from performance for RGB, you can just not feed your child. A simple solution and now you have a pretty PC with an Asus ROG STRIX RTX 3080 (if you can ever buy one in this market), and hell, without a living child you can appreciate your rig even more... Obviously a joke; I don't even have a child to feed, or a PC! Actually I just stumbled on this thread because I was searching if LEDs put out a noticeable amount of heat.

[mlnhead1]

I know this is 2 years later. But you have to look at the worldwide picture here. 1.The auto industry. Law was passed this year that Anything that California passes emission wise, is all the auto industry has to make for the entire USA. So California designs the 50 state laws for the entire auto industry... At the same time, California just passed a law about fossil fuel cars being sold in their state in a mandated number of years. Well according to that, we had all better be sitting aside money for a Tesla now and not later... Supply and demand on those electric vehicles once mandated will be $500,000...
Same design of reasoning with the RGB offerings. Discontinue the Value sector..... Look at LED lights, mere pennies for a 1000 of them. Same thing with RGB, but once a graphics card or motherboard is designed around it "custom", that makes them genuine "Collectors", then when no other series of the same cards or boards are being offered, the manufactures have the market cornered...

[Ж | wildcard.NS]

I have RGB so I can choose my accent color at will. I spent good money on my rig, and making it look good is half the enjoyment for me as a builder. So, **** your opinion. It's my money, it's my hobby, and I won't let you gatekeep others without at least calling you on your ****.

My build: https://i.imgur.com/qm72jO4.jpg

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Początkowo opublikowane przez wildcardNS:

I have RGB so I can choose my accent color at will. I spent good money on my rig, and making it look good is half the enjoyment for me as a builder. So, **** your opinion. It's my money, it's my hobby, and I won't let you gatekeep others without at least calling you on your ****.

My build: https://i.imgur.com/qm72jO4.jpg

Who exactly are you directing your comment at specifically? And RGB in a computer causing it to "look good" is subjective.. it looks good to you, sure, and that's great that you enjoy it. But to me RGB in computers (at least if it's on "Rainbow mode" that is) looks more like unicorn vomit. I'm not saying your computer specifically is bad but in general all RGB to me is just ugly. That's just my personal opinion though.

[rafaelguima]

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[Johnny M]

To be honest there are still boards that are cheap, but they are low tier boards, the big part of having a "Gaming PC" or a really high spec is to make it look good anyway, RGB is the main thing that you can use to really customise and make it your own with colours etc. If you don't like RGB simply turn it off

[Cap'n Jack Sparrow]

I was checking out quite a lot of Motherboards the other day and i was surprised to see just how many boards there are available that have little to no rgb. So theres still plenty of choice. There are plenty of components that have no rgb still, including cases and fans.