Can We Play Our Own Music in the Music Player?

[Nebula]

I see the PC in te game has music player and I can't figure out how to use it to play my own music. I did navigate to my music folder where all my music files are, found all the individual folders labled with all my music but none of the music files appear on the PC with in the game.

Is there a format that the files need to be and maybe that is why the files don't appear when I navigate to the arae where they are located? all my file are mp4, is mp4 compatible with this game or is it hat this feature just doesn't work.

[AlexMobile1980]

looks like they have to be mp3 files

[Nebula]

Originally posted by AlexMobile1980:

looks like they have to be mp3 files

I believe mp4 are the most currect format, mp3 is a step backwards correct? If so that is strange why would they use an older format, I have 100's of CD's imported into my music player it's not like i am going to go and convert all those 1000's of files back to an older sound file format, this is just stupid is stupid does. So bascially the music plaer is outdated upon release?

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mp4 is a video file, Mpeg4. Mp3, Mpeg3 is audio/music. Mp4 can not and never will be music files, video only. If you converted your audio CD's to digital then they are all in mp3 format, not mp4.

[RAMChYLD]

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

mp4 is a video file, Mpeg4. Mp3, Mpeg3 is audio/music. Mp4 can not and never will be music files, video only. If you converted your audio CD's to digital then they are all in mp3 format, not mp4.

Well, you're half correct. There is an audio file specification for MPEG-4 audio (actually, AAC or AC-3 audio which is part of the MPEG-4 specification) called M4A. Apple uses this format exclusively, even without the copy-protection, and if you ripped CDs using the default settings on iTunes or bought music off the iTunes store this would be the resulting format. According to Wikipedia, there are other possible audio formats with DRM- M4P (DRM-protected high-bitrate audio), M4B (low-bitrate audio, used on audiobooks) and M4R (low-bitrate audio used for ringtones).

That said, try renaming your music files' extension to M4A and see if it gets recognized.

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Originally posted by RAMChYLD:

Well, you're half correct. There is an audio file specification for MPEG-4 audio (actually, AAC or AC-3 audio which is part of the MPEG-4 specification) called M4A. Apple uses this format exclusively, even without the copy-protection, and if you ripped CDs using the default settings on iTunes or bought music off the iTunes store this would be the resulting format. According to Wikipedia, there are other possible audio formats with DRM- M4P (DRM-protected high-bitrate audio), M4B (low-bitrate audio, used on audiobooks) and M4R (low-bitrate audio used for ringtones).

That said, try renaming your music files' extension to M4A and see if it gets recognized.

I wasn't aware there was a DRM-Supported media storage format, doesn't surprise me. Mp3 however is "The Standard" format for storing music that is completely open, DRM-Free, and supported by everything. Everything today supports Mp3 files and while yes it was created many years ago back in the 1990's (or older) that does not mean it is "Outdated" what so ever. Mp3 still is and always will be the primary choice for most people to store music in as it's most widely-adopted by reader software. Some people use FLAC or OGG, but it's not as widely-adopted by reader / player software compared to mp3.

[Jacknm2]

FLAC Audio is also supported. Source: Me Playing FLAC media in game lol

[RAMChYLD]

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

"The Standard" format for storing music that is completely open

Well, not true until a few months ago- MP3 was patented technology, by Fraunhoffer IIS and then MPEG-LA. Things got quite ugly in the early 2000s when they started trying to claim royalties from developers of MP3 players and encoders- this led to the creation of the OGG container and Vorbis codec.

[ninexxx]

mp3 is for audio mp4 is for video :P that all u need to know :P

[Jacknm2]

Originally posted by ninexxx:

mp3 is for audio mp4 is for video :P that all u need to know :P

MP4 stands for MPEG-4 Part 14. This technology is based on Apple’s QuickTime MOV format - MP3 files can only be used for audio, whereas MP4 files can store audio, video, still images, subtitles, and text.

So MP3 is the predecessor and exclusive to audio, MP4 can include all those items or just 1 such as audio. I'd describe it as anything but simple as far as naming goes, it just more common for people to see MP3 as audio files due to the longevity of the container and MP4 as video due to its commonality.

.mkv is also a container than can also house any of the above. But more commonly used for HEVC files.

FLAC is also more commonly used by audiophiles. At least where my experience has been.

[Nebula]

Originally posted by RAMChYLD:

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

mp4 is a video file, Mpeg4. Mp3, Mpeg3 is audio/music. Mp4 can not and never will be music files, video only. If you converted your audio CD's to digital then they are all in mp3 format, not mp4.

Well, you're half correct. There is an audio file specification for MPEG-4 audio (actually, AAC or AC-3 audio which is part of the MPEG-4 specification) called M4A. Apple uses this format exclusively, even without the copy-protection, and if you ripped CDs using the default settings on iTunes or bought music off the iTunes store this would be the resulting format. According to Wikipedia, there are other possible audio formats with DRM- M4P (DRM-protected high-bitrate audio), M4B (low-bitrate audio, used on audiobooks) and M4R (low-bitrate audio used for ringtones).

That said, try renaming your music files' extension to M4A and see if it gets recognized.

Yes you are correct, Mp4 is a music format and yes all my music is in a folder which is imported either from a CD into ITunes or purchased and ITunes must auto select that format because I never bothered to custom set extension format to something else. All my sound files say .Mp4.

ACC is the older formate that most CD music files come on a CD and I just recently discovered that people are using something called .ogg. I will try changing the extension name and see if that works. I can copy over a few to a different location and change the extension to see if it works. I remember when .mp3 was released long time ago which greatly reduces the size of the basic .ACC music file. Thanks for your input greatly appreciated.

[Nebula]

Originally posted by Jacknm2:

Originally posted by ninexxx:

mp3 is for audio mp4 is for video :P that all u need to know :P

MP4 stands for MPEG-4 Part 14. This technology is based on Apple’s QuickTime MOV format - MP3 files can only be used for audio, whereas MP4 files can store audio, video, still images, subtitles, and text.

So MP3 is the predecessor and exclusive to audio, MP4 can include all those items or just 1 such as audio. I'd describe it as anything but simple as far as naming goes, it just more common for people to see MP3 as audio files due to the longevity of the container and MP4 as video due to its commonality.

.mkv is also a container than can also house any of the above. But more commonly used for HEVC files.

FLAC is also more commonly used by audiophiles. At least where my experience has been.

Your correct, some people are just not up on the tech changes. Mp3 is great and was the first step to compressing and reducing the size of sounds files back in the 90's and the Mp4 is just a high breed of the Mp3 that for the most part takes it one step further by not only supporting sound but also supporting video, still images, subtitles, and text.

This is why Apple's ITunes is set to import all sound and video files into the program as Mp4, it handles all, it only makes sense and there is no difference in the sound quality, better if anything. I mean all your really doing when playing a sound or video is decompressing at the front end and compressing at the back end.

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Originally posted by Snakebite:

Yes you are correct, Mp4 is a music format and yes all my music is in a folder which is imported either from a CD into ITunes or purchased and ITunes must auto select that format because I never bothered to custom set extension format to something else. All my sound files say .Mp4.

ACC is the older formate that most CD music files come on a CD and I just recently discovered that people are using something called .ogg. I will try changing the extension name and see if that works. I can copy over a few to a different location and change the extension to see if it works. I remember when .mp3 was released long time ago which greatly reduces the size of the basic .ACC music file. Thanks for your input greatly appreciated.

Just so you know, if your music is already in the .mp4 container, you can not just simply change the extension to .mp3, it won't be readable by anything at all. You will have to actually run each file through a conversion program to convert it to mp3 format. The two extensions are different formats and not actually the same thing.

And given how iTunes works and how apple tries so hard to maintain their draconian DRM Bulls---, I'm pretty sure you can not convert the files. I may be wrong but I'm guessing that iTunes will do something to prevent you from doing so.

You see with iTunes you do not actually "buy the songs", and you do not "own it", you only buy the right to listen to a copy of it. You aren't able to do "anything you want" to it, only what apple says you can do with it. And I may be wrong here, as I don't actually use iTunes to get my music (for this very reason), but I am guessing that most likely that would mean not allowing you to convert it to a drm-free format like mp3.

[Nebula]

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

Originally posted by Snakebite:

Yes you are correct, Mp4 is a music format and yes all my music is in a folder which is imported either from a CD into ITunes or purchased and ITunes must auto select that format because I never bothered to custom set extension format to something else. All my sound files say .Mp4.

ACC is the older formate that most CD music files come on a CD and I just recently discovered that people are using something called .ogg. I will try changing the extension name and see if that works. I can copy over a few to a different location and change the extension to see if it works. I remember when .mp3 was released long time ago which greatly reduces the size of the basic .ACC music file. Thanks for your input greatly appreciated.

Just so you know, if your music is already in the .mp4 container, you can not just simply change the extension to .mp3, it won't be readable by anything at all. You will have to actually run each file through a conversion program to convert it to mp3 format. And given how iTunes works and how apple tries so hard to maintain their draconian piracy BS, pretty sure you can not convert the files, iTunes will do something to prevent you from doing so. You see with iTunes you do not actually "buy the songs", and you do not "own it", you only buy the right to listen to a copy of it. You aren't able to do "anything you want" to it, only what apple says you can do with it. And most likely that would mean not allowing you to convert it to a drm-free format like mp3.

Yah we know that plus changing it to mp3 would make no difference because mp4 and mp3 are basically the same for the exception that a mp4 supports not only audio but also video, still images, subtitles, and text. So any program or player that supports mp3 will also play a mp4, Clearly he stated try changing the extension from Mp4 to MPA, not mp3 go back and read what people stated before making blind statments.. If the games doesn't support mp4 then it's not going to support mp3 because their basically te same thing. And the game doesn't support .ogg because I have some .ogg sound files and it didn't reconize them either If the developers had taken the time to make the music player a little better they would havee had it support many different sound file formats, most programs do..

[RAMChYLD]

Originally posted by Impending Rentacle Tape:

Just so you know, if your music is already in the .mp4 container, you can not just simply change the extension to .mp3, it won't be readable by anything at all. You will have to actually run each file through a conversion program to convert it to mp3 format. The two extensions are different formats and not actually the same thing.

And given how iTunes works and how apple tries so hard to maintain their draconian DRM Bulls---

Actually, what you can do is to rename the file from MP4 to M4A. The difference are basically just the semantics. The file structure is in fact the same (inherited from the QuickTime MOV format) except that programs do not expect to find a video stream in a M4A file.

As I mentioned before, M4A files don't have DRM, and most music bought off iTunes store doesn't have DRM and thus comes in M4A format. If you use Apple Music however, those DO have DRM, and would come in M4P files.

And oh, I have copied the M4A files from my iTunes purchases (both CD rips and store purchases) onto my Android phone and they play fine. Only M4P files are ignored. So yeah.

Originally posted by Snakebite:

ACC is the older formate that most CD music files come on a CD and I just recently discovered that people are using something called .ogg. I will try changing the extension name and see if that works. I can copy over a few to a different location and change the extension to see if it works. I remember when .mp3 was released long time ago which greatly reduces the size of the basic .ACC music file. Thanks for your input greatly appreciated.

No. Audio CDs actually uses a very old codec called PCM. You may have heard of it, Windows 3.1 uses it for the WAV files.

There's two technology in play here- the actual codec (PCM, Vorbis, MP3, AAC, etc) and the container (WAV, MP3, MP4/M4A/M4P/M4B/M4R/M4V, OGG, etc). It gets a bit complicated because in some cases, like MP3 and FLAC, the specifications define BOTH the container and codec (you can technically store MP3 audio in WAV files or MPG files- I've done it in the past, but the proper specification would be to store them in a MP3 file).

For MPEG-4, the specification defines the codec as AAC, Apple Lossless or AC-3 and the file as MP4/M4A. MP4 and M4A are actually alike except for what streams are found in the file, programs do not expect to find a video stream in a M4A file and will either ignore any video streams or play them anyway depending on how it's coded. It's all down to semantics.

As I mentioned earlier, OGG/Vorbis came about because the patent holder of MP3 tried to extort patent fees from developers of MP3 encoders and players back in the early 2000s. Ogg is the container format. The audio codec is called Vorbis. Ogg files may also contain video using the Theora codec.

[Nebula]

All good information, I am thinking the developers should just update this feature in the future so the ingame music player can handle a multitude of different file formats, I changed the extention to .M4A and it didn't work. I will just use my own music player.