Bluescreen of Death

[Thomas 6376]

Hallo Leute,

ein kunde will,daß ich seinen GPU auf 2273MHz übertakte aber das Problem ist, daß der 3DMark mir einen Bluescreen of Death gibt wenn ich ihn durchlaufen lasse denn der Kunde möchte das.

[Jacknm2]

Screen shot the email if you can.

Use a GTX1060 6GB if it is not a high benchmark score that is required.

Screenshot der E-Mail wenn möglich.

Verwenden Sie eine GTX1060 6GB, wenn keine hohe Benchmark-Punktzahl erforderlich ist.
^^ Google Translate

[BonPadre]

Parts have silicon lottery, so maybe the ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini may not reach that score on any given GPU, but maybe an other one will be better to reach that score.

If you don't need a certain benchmark score, you can also if needed UNDERclock the MEMORY clock to help you reach 2273MHz on the CORE clock

You may also need to add case fans if you can, as many 120mm 75-77CFM and if you also can 2x 140mm 104CFM
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Google translate

Vielleicht erreicht die ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini diese Punktzahl auf keiner GPU, aber vielleicht ist eine andere besser, diese Punktzahl zu erreichen.

Wenn Sie keinen bestimmten benchmark-score benötigen, können Sie auch bei Bedarf die SPEICHERUHR Untertakten, um 2273MHz auf der KERNUHR zu erreichen

Sie müssen auch Fall fans hinzufügen, wenn Sie können, so viele 120mm 75-77CFM und wenn Sie können auch 2x 140mm 104CFM

[Jacknm2]

Apologies for not being as clear as BonPadre but I completely agree, I noted the GTX1060 6GB's as they are known for getting stable overclocks over the 2100Mhz and higher ranges.

[Thomas 6376]

Das Problem ist nicht das Übertakten sondern 3DMark.

Ich weis das ich die GTX 1060 auf den Wert 2273 übertakten kann aber der Kunde möchte das ich 3DMark ausführe aber wenn ich ihn ausführe bekomme ich den Bluescreen of Death.



The problem is not overclocking but 3DMark.

I know that I can overclock the GTX 1060 to the value of 2273 but the customer wants me to do 3DMark but when I run it I get the Bluescreen of Death.

[BonPadre]

If you get a Bluescreen of Death, that's for a reason.
A reason you have to identify.

It can be the GPU getting too hot
It can be the GPU not getting enough power (always put the max on that)
It can be the PSU too weak once you go overclocking
Etc.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1402962803

So run OCCT to know WHY you get a BSOD if the guide here doesn't totally helps you to understand why.

To me, in your problem, if you OC only the GPU, it would be a too hot GPU or not enough Watt in your PSU.

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Originally posted by Thomas 6376:

Das Problem ist nicht das Übertakten sondern 3DMark.

Ich weis das ich die GTX 1060 auf den Wert 2273 übertakten kann aber der Kunde möchte das ich 3DMark ausführe aber wenn ich ihn ausführe bekomme ich den Bluescreen of Death.



The problem is not overclocking but 3DMark.

I know that I can overclock the GTX 1060 to the value of 2273 but the customer wants me to do 3DMark but when I run it I get the Bluescreen of Death.

To add to BonPadre's post above: Run OCCT in infinite mode and watch the power usage slowly increase over time. Eventually at some point it will get to a point where the power usage is steady and stops increasing. Once you find what that is then you will know what size power supply you need. If it increases to say 450 watts and you only have a 400 watt power supply in the system then that would be a blue screen and you would need to upgrade it to a 500 watt power supply and then the blue screen should probably go away. Also the video card can only go up to 95c. If it is going past 95c (OCCT Tells you this) then that could also be a bluescreen. Overclocking is not a guaranteed thing. You can't just set the slider to 2273 Mhz and expect it to work. You have to check a lot of other variables to make it work.

[Brittimus]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Originally posted by Thomas 6376:

Das Problem ist nicht das Übertakten sondern 3DMark.

Ich weis das ich die GTX 1060 auf den Wert 2273 übertakten kann aber der Kunde möchte das ich 3DMark ausführe aber wenn ich ihn ausführe bekomme ich den Bluescreen of Death.



The problem is not overclocking but 3DMark.

I know that I can overclock the GTX 1060 to the value of 2273 but the customer wants me to do 3DMark but when I run it I get the Bluescreen of Death.

To add to BonPadre's post above: Run OCCT in infinite mode and watch the power usage slowly increase over time. Eventually at some point it will get to a point where the power usage is steady and stops increasing. Once you find what that is then you will know what size power supply you need. If it increases to say 450 watts and you only have a 400 watt power supply in the system then that would be a blue screen and you would need to upgrade it to a 500 watt power supply and then the blue screen should probably go away. Also the video card can only go up to 95c. If it is going past 95c (OCCT Tells you this) then that could also be a bluescreen. Overclocking is not a guaranteed thing. You can't just set the slider to 2273 Mhz and expect it to work. You have to check a lot of other variables to make it work.

Running OCCT won’t tell you what your max wattage is if your PSU is too weak because it will just crash when it hits the max. The wattage for the CPU and GPU is listed in the store though. Add those together and add another 150-250 depending on how much overclocking you’re doing and that will tell you how big of a PSU to buy,

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Originally posted by bratliff121:

Running OCCT won’t tell you what your max wattage is if your PSU is too weak because it will just crash when it hits the max. The wattage for the CPU and GPU is listed in the store though. Add those together and add another 150-250 depending on how much overclocking you’re doing and that will tell you how big of a PSU to buy,

(This is not directed at you, bratliff121, just disclaimer) I know it's a difficult concept for a lot of people playing PCBS but we can apply simple logic to it. If we know we put a 450 watt power supply in the computer, then run OCCT on infinite and see it go to 455 watts then blue screen then we will know that they at least need a bigger power supply. That may not be the entire reason for causing all of the blue screen issues but it's pretty quick and easy to see if at least the power supply is the issue or not. It's a lot faster and easier to run OCCT on infinite than sit there and try to calculate/add up everything from the store.

[Brittimus]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Originally posted by bratliff121:

Running OCCT won’t tell you what your max wattage is if your PSU is too weak because it will just crash when it hits the max. The wattage for the CPU and GPU is listed in the store though. Add those together and add another 150-250 depending on how much overclocking you’re doing and that will tell you how big of a PSU to buy,

(This is not directed at you, bratliff121, just disclaimer) I know it's a difficult concept for a lot of people playing PCBS but we can apply simple logic to it. If we know we put a 450 watt power supply in the computer, then run OCCT on infinite and see it go to 455 watts then blue screen then we will know that they at least need a bigger power supply. That may not be the entire reason for causing all of the blue screen issues but it's pretty quick and easy to see if at least the power supply is the issue or not. It's a lot faster and easier to run OCCT on infinite than sit there and try to calculate/add up everything from the store.

My point was just that OCCT will only go to 450 watts if you have 450 watt PSU. If you need 455 then you'll crash before you get there. It will help diagnose that power draw is the issue, but it won't tell you what you need to install without doing a little addition.

Edit: Also just to clarify for anyone wondering, you only need to add the wattage for the CPU and the GPU(s). Nothing else counts toward the wattage (at least as of the version 1.2.3)

[BonPadre]

To bratliff121
While you are correct with the max wattage and OCCT, the reason why I often comes up with OCCT is that it can give you hints on 3 different issues

It can tells you if CPU throttle, it gives you the max temps on your components, and finally if it crashes after 20 or more seconds (and you see the wattage slowly build up), usually it means that the wattage is the issue, and if you run it while you MONITOR it, you can see WHY it crashes (unless it's a crash right at start of the 4 seconds)

To me it's a precious tool that can help others understand the "why" it crashes

[Brittimus]

I’m all for OCCT. It should be your go to tool as soon as you get an unexpected BSOD. However excessive power draw is easy to avoid assuming you haven’t overclocked anything (except RAM since that doesn’t draw power in game).

CPU_WATTS + GPU_WATTS_1 + GPU_WATTS_2

That’s all I’m saying is that if you’re drawing too much power then that formula (if it even deserves to be called that, it’s just simple integer addition) will tell you what size PSU you need. OCCT will not tell you what size PSU you need but it will help you see that you’re overloading what you’ve got.

If you’ve overclocked the CPU or GPU then you definitely need to use OCCT because the power draw changes due to your increased clock speed. Again it can only show that you’re hitting the limits of your PSU but it will show you that’s the problem. It cannot tell you what size PSU you should have so you’re going to have to dust off your 1st grade math and combine that with a little guess work or reduce your clock speeds.

tldr
OCCT is your friend, simple basic math is your friend too

[Thomas 6376]

I have 600 Watt but i think the CPU Cooler is to bad.

[Thomas 6376]

Thanks for your help.