Make Higher Level + 5 Stars jobs more profitable - Profits too marginal (1m achiemnt.)

[Pvt_Booger]

As it stands, I really find no more motivation to play the game. Not particularly happy at design choices that have been made.

It's basically grind after grind, as there are no rewards for reaching higher levels.

There are no rewards for building a high-spec new PC and reselling, as E-Bay values will only let you earn maybe 100-200 profits.

Earning the achievements this way is incredibly difficult. I say this as an achievement hunter.

As it stands, the 1 million achievement will take over 1000 play hours, something which is completely unfeasible without cheating.

[Pvt_Booger]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Originally posted by Pvt_Booger:

Ok, I understand.

In other words, it's even worse than I hoped in terms of making money.

I think I'll just ditch the game, quite sorry I bought it because now it will be impossible to 100% it without cheating.

I did notice in your screenshot that it looks like you're only level 8. You're complaining about this so early in the game? Jobs reward much more money far later in the game.

I am level 17. How could I be level 8 after 100 hours of gameplay?

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Originally posted by Pvt_Booger:

I am level 17. How could I be level 8 after 100 hours of gameplay?

The job in the screenshot said "Requires level 8", that's usually pretty close to your current level, but not always.. I was guessing. Still, the jobs reward more money the further you go into the game up to level 30 I think is the max you should get jobs rewarding $1k or so per job at least. It's been a while since I played PCBS but I remember a few months ago I was seeing jobs at level 30 with labor rewards in the $1000 - $1100 range.

[Pvt_Booger]

Originally posted by Aquafawks:

Originally posted by Pvt_Booger:

I am level 17. How could I be level 8 after 100 hours of gameplay?

The job in the screenshot said "Requires level 8", that's usually pretty close to your current level, but not always.. I was guessing. Still, the jobs reward more money the further you go into the game up to level 30 I think is the max you should get jobs rewarding $1k or so per job at least. It's been a while since I played PCBS but I remember a few months ago I was seeing jobs at level 30 with labor rewards in the $1000 - $1100 range.

I honestly don't see anything but marginal increases, which is possibly the worse way of designing a game of this type.

Anyone familiar with compulsion loops understands that "Higher Level = Higher Reward = More Engagement." This has been a proven formula throughout the history of game design. In this game it's more like "Higher Level = Same Rewards."

To pick up on a previous point you made about levelling, you can see that profits are almost exactly the same in these two jobs, while Level requirements increase:

A level 9 Job:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1770047013

A level 17 Job:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1770046905

The profits, as you've explained to me, are almost exactly the same, making the incentive and rewards in levelling up almost nonexistent.

I think the developer had good intentions with the game, but has very little understanding of how game design works and will have to consider implementing some changes.

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Originally posted by Pvt_Booger:

I think the developer had good intentions with the game, but has very little understanding of how game design works and will have to consider implementing some changes.

Definitely don't play hard mode with that attitude then. In hard mode the labor rewards are smaller, and the job's budgets are so tight that most of the time you can't even complete jobs at all with new parts.

[BonPadre]

Oh and sorry to bust your bubble OP... but currently (and since quite a long time now) seems that some achievements are broken too (at least what I read very often around here in forums).

So now, again, I'm lvl30 have 5 stars, I don't pay much attention to how much labour a job gives me, I don't refuse many jobs, and I'm not an achievements completionist. But I am only in the $50K bank account in the game with a decent (large ? ) amount of broken PC's to repair stockpiled in my closet.

So indeed, if your main goal to continue to play a game are achievements completions... maybe this game sems the wrong game to play. Same would go with Car Mechanic simulator (some of the achievements are insane), etc.

[Pvt_Booger]

Originally posted by BonPadre:

Oh and sorry to bust your bubble OP... but currently (and since quite a long time now) seems that some achievements are broken too (at least what I read very often around here in forums).

So now, again, I'm lvl30 have 5 stars, I don't pay much attention to how much labour a job gives me, I don't refuse many jobs, and I'm not an achievements completionist. But I am only in the $50K bank account in the game with a decent (large ? ) amount of broken PC's to repair stockpiled in my closet.

So indeed, if your main goal to continue to play a game are achievements completions... maybe this game sems the wrong game to play. Same would go with Car Mechanic simulator (some of the achievements are insane), etc.

Doing research I found that the achievements seem to be working fine, but they need to be very specific. Like for instance the Purple lights achievement needs specific colour settings, which are not "255,0,255"

Just managed to get "Hasta la Vista" and "Wow! To build a PC," plus the workbenches ones and "Calling in Sick."

I got "Hasta la Vista" and "Calling in Sick" by downloading "Auto Mouse Clicker" (on murgee), setting number of actions to 700, and letting the program click on "Skip Day" Automatically, while watching Netflix. Worked out nicely.

I think the rest should be perfectly fine to get, all I know is the "Hoarder" one needs specifically one of each part or it will not work.

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Originally posted by Pvt_Booger:

Doing research I found that the achievements seem to be working fine, but they need to be very specific. Like for instance the Purple lights achievement needs specific colour settings, which are not "255,0,255"

Just managed to get "Hasta la Vista" and "Wow! To build a PC," plus the workbenches ones and "Calling in Sick."

I got "Hasta la Vista" and "Calling in Sick" by downloading "Auto Mouse Clicker" (on murgee), setting number of actions to 700, and letting the program click on "Skip Day" Automatically, while watching Netflix. Worked out nicely.

I think the rest should be perfectly fine to get, all I know is the "Hoarder" one needs specifically one of each part or it will not work.

Go look at the global statistics for PCBS achievements. There are several that no one steam user have ever unlocked. A few -ARE- broken at the moment and it's currently impossible to get 100% in PCBS. I would suggest you not try too hard and just get the few that are possible.

[Jackson]

Some comments on achievements: First, the purple color IS 255,0,255. I dunno who said it wasn't, but they didn't know what they were talking about. Got it the other day myself. I got it with 16 RGB items.

From what I can see, all achievements have been unlocked by multiple people, but that means nothing since people can use SAM to achieve this in a few seconds.

And... OP did you get Overvolted? That seems broken to me - or I'm not setting it up in the right situation.