Lord of the Rings mod

[VEF215]

Been playing BFME2 and would like to see a LOTR mod for AL.

Warning this is a long a.ss post. It's mostly describing the skins you would need to put over certain units that already exist in the game. I took the approach of fitting LOTR into AL, rather than the other way around. So no wargs, sorry Isengard.

To make it feasible you could take this approach.

2 Factions

Gondor

-> Gondor Swordsmen (Raise Shields, Call to Arms)

https://bfme-modding.ru/bfmenews/romtw/gondor/12.jpg

-> Gondor Spearmen (Spearwall, Battle Prayer) No shields of course

https://bfme-modding.ru/bfmenews/romtw/gondor/11.jpg

-> Gondor Cavalry (Fear, Sacrificial Craze)

https://bfme-modding.ru/bfmenews/romtw/gondor/17.jpg

-> Gondor Archers (Hold the Line, Covering You)

https://bfme-modding.ru/bfmenews/romtw/gondor/13.jpg

All 4 of these units could share the same model.

-> Ithilien Rangers (Chase, Guerilla Tactics)

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/2/21/Ambush_of_the_Rangers.png/revision/latest?cb=20121024122352

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Rangers-Of-Middle-earth-2018

For armor upgrades you could do the TATW approach, start off without the full plate, look a bit more militia

https://bfme-modding.ru/bfmenews/romtw/gondor/01.jpg

Then first armor upgrade adds maybe helmets

2nd armor upgrade they get their full plate and best shields

https://bfme-modding.ru/bfmenews/romtw/gondor/11.jpg

Or, they could start off with their normal full plate, and get more elaborate Gondor armor/helmets and capes as they get higher armor upgrades.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/XloBl

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/92/1a/3b921a9f6438fcdaaaf24ac3b68b247f.jpg

https://www.wetanz.com/shop/miniature-guns-props/gondor-kings-guards-helm?ref=brand

Also in their roster

-> Catapult (would be fine stand in for the trebuchet, just change the models carting it around ofc)

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Gondor-Battlecry-Trebuchet

-> Ballista (changed models carting it around)

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Gondor-Avenger-Bolt-Thrower

-> Boromir Shield Hero (full plate Boromir, shield hero remodel, Thrill of Victory and Heavy Blows) Able to be revived at the town hall, but loses all previous experience, starting at level 1.

https://pm1.narvii.com/6480/fcaa03268492a6fd62980bcf71b01a77e3fe1abf_hq.jpg
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2nd faction:

Isengard (the taller Uruk hai would fit the models better I think, Orcs/Goblins are smaller and more hunched over)

The armor upgrades could follow a similar pattern. They would start off with their lighter raider/patrol gear on, like in the 1st movie, then get upgraded to their full plate we see at Helms Deep

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ZXGYX

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/f6/a4/f5f6a466206161086938f18c640fa79b.jpg

-> Uruk-Hai Swordsmen (Raise Shields, Sacrificial Craze)

https://www.wetanz.com/shop/figures/uruk-hai-swordsman

https://www.wetanz.com/shop/miniature-guns-props/uruk-hai-swordsmans-helm?ref=brand

-> Uruk-Hai Pikemen (Spearwall, Rage)

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qRr4a

-> Uruk-Hai Beserkers (axe infantry, smaller squad of 5, unable to retreat once in combat like Viking beserkers, but would be extremely deadly, and very resistant to arrows, Frenzy and Intimidation abilities)

http://www.mwctoys.com/images1/review_berserker_8.jpg

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/008/940/349/large/fred-pashe-urukhai-berserker-upbody-ta.jpg?1516211733

-> Uruk-Hai Crossbowmen (german crossbowmen remodel, Stay and Fight, Awareness)

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Uruk-hai-with-Crossbows

For the 5th Uruk-Hai unit, was thinking either a lighter melee version of Uruk-Hai swordsmen, making them faster/scout melee infantry, with Chase/Raise Shields, so they would be good at harassing villages, but not nearly as good in prolonged melee as their heavier plate counterpart. Or you could have lighter armored Uruk-Hai Archers, to help the crossbowmen, with Chase/Eyes Sharp. You could even have both, since mods could push the 5 unit type cap. 2 light raider units to start off with, before you unlock your heavier troops. Having these 2 units would change how the armor upgrades work for the other units though. Both can be seen here

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-DK/Uruk-hai-Scouts-2018

-> Uruk-hai Ballista (normal ballista stand in would be fine, or maybe scale it up? Changing the models ofc)

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-DK/Uruk-hai-Siege-Assault-Ballista?_requestid=583334

The Uruk-Hai siege troops manning the ballista could wear different helmets to distinguish them

http://www.thelandofshadow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/WetaTTTUruk4.jpg

-> Lurtz archer Hero (but would be a very good melee combatant as well, Accurate Shot, Redemption.) Able to be revived at the town hall, but loses all previous experience, starting at level 1.

https://www.wetanz.com/shop/figures/lurtz-at-amon-hen
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Starts

Boromir
Gondor Swordsmen
Gondor Spearmen

Lurtz
Uruk-Hai Swordsmen
Uruk-Hai Beserkers

Starting the match with 3 units could lend itself better to the rock/paper/scissors matchups. This would let player skill play more of a part in the early skirmishes, rather than knowing you have the disadvantage/advantage just because of your unit types. It's never going to be perfect though.
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Faction 3: Rohan

You could also go the route of Isengard vs. Rohan.

Rohan would be more fitting than Gondor to fight Isengard, but they might be harder to make/balance.

Super heavy focus on cavalry.

-> Theoden Cavalry hero (Holy Fury, Frighten.) Able to be revived at the town hall, but loses all previous experience, starting at level 1.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/o1gbO

3 types of cavalry.

-> Three horse squad of light scouts for harassing/flanking (Pin Down, Eyes Sharp)

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/BKVJ9

-> Normal 5 horse squad of Riders of Rohan, the main unit of Rohan. (Fear, Heavy Blows)

They could start out as normal Riders of Rohan

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Riders-Of-Rohan-2018

Their 2nd armor upgrade they become Royal Guard

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/1ra5e

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Rohan-Royal-Guard-on-Foot

https://www.wetanz.com/shop/figures/royal-guard-of-rohan?ref=brand

-> Powerful horse archers for fire support. (Awareness, Intense Fire)

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ryxPa

-> Swordsmen to help deal with pikes/arrow fire and push villages/bases. They could have either swords or axes along with their shields. (Raise Shields, Throw Axes)

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/omxWL

-> Spearmen (Defensive Circle, Call to Arms)

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/LJ6Jl
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Starts

Theoden (on horseback)
Scout Cav Squad
Swordsmen
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Unit Voices (this channel has all of the Uruk voices needed I think, just pitch them way down)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhthXQk9wPE

Replace the music with LOTR appropriate music. A lot of the current buildings could stand in for Gondor/Rohan, (Germans -> Gondor, Anglo Saxons -> Rohan) Isengard buildings would have to have remodels.

http://bfme2.heavengames.com/factions/i-buildings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqqrBUiZ_iE

Peasants could remain unaltered for Gondor/Rohan, Isengard could get laborer Uruk-Hai without helmets or heavy armor as workers.

https://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/28/27104/Uruk_body.jpg

http://www.therookies.co/media/reviews/photos/original/57/fd/c0/adam-dotlacil-isengard-uruk-hai-45-1522447431.jpg

Games Workshop does lots of LOTR models, you can see all their models on their website

Uruk-Hai
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Uruk-hai-Warriors-2018

Gondor
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Warriors-Of-Minas-Tirith-2018

Rohan
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Warriors-Of-Rohan-2018

It's a pipe dream, and has 0.5% chance of happening, but it would be dope. ;)

[VEF215]

Originally posted by kelt545:

For Frodo!

(music swells)

Wish EA would let whoever has the license sell this game, not paying $200 for a new boxed copy lol. This works like a charm (CD Keys are on YouTube)

https://forums.revora.net/topic/105190-bfme1bfme2rotwk-games-download-installation-guide/

https://www.moddb.com/mods/bfme1-hd-edition

https://www.moddb.com/mods/battle-for-middle-earth-2-hd-edition

https://www.moddb.com/mods/rotwk-hd-edition

https://www.moddb.com/mods/edain-mod

[VEF215]

Originally posted by kelt545:

Good idea, but forget it.
The game is dead.

https://steamcharts.com/app/620590

I'm a fan of the universe of Tolkien.
I wanted to play a similar game with multiplayer.

It's as dead as T3A it seems, at least online.

https://t3aonline.net/

I think custom maps and a better custom games experience, along with mods can bring this game back to life. People need regular, fresh, new, crazy content to play, and a good community to play with. People buy games just for their mods. I think folks would check out this game just for a LOTR mod on it.

I'm looking forward to Reforged, it looks pretty sweet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLLQLfExank

[linas.warrior]

BFME2... I love that game... so many hours spent. It would be so cool if EA remaster this game. But probably it will never happen.

[VEF215]

Originally posted by linas.warrior:

BFME2... I love that game... so many hours spent. It would be so cool if EA remaster this game. But probably it will never happen.

The HD edition mods for all 3 are the best you are gonna get me thinks.

[Odin'sWolf]

This would be sweet I loved BFME 1&2

[VEF215]

Originally posted by Odin'sWolf:

This would be sweet I loved BFME 1&2

It would be missing a lot of things from BFME. The powers, creatures, wide arrange of heros. It would be like a smaller scale, hardcore BFME. And I'm okay with that ;) also as an added bonus it would probably fly under the radar and not get a C&D

[VEF215]

Maps that could be made in editor for this mod (I'd like to try my hand at this)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/52/1a/d4/521ad46a16780d507c2ff4587071d3de.jpg

Fords of Isen
Gap of Rohan
Helms Deep (Rohan defense siege map)
Edoras (Rohan defense siege map)
Isengard (Uruk Hai defense map)
Outskirts of Fangorn
Dunharrow
Any number of Rohan maps with their small villages and countryside
Osgiliath
Minas Tirith

[Aonghus]

that would be awesome!