Can someone fill me in on the HoH2 vs HW2 situation?

[White Adjacent]

I've read that Hammerwatch 2 got effectively abandoned due to a publisher dispute (the devs literally couldn't update the game even if they could due to publisher not releasing the patches or something to that effect). HoH2 being self published would then take away from this issues and explains the attention diverting?

Just wondering if someone could clarify this information that has perhaps been on the discord/followed the situation more closely.

[Chaoss]

The other game isn't a roguelike/roguelite at all more of an rpg

[Sir Pencil]

Crackshell signed on with a publisher (Modus, now Maximum) to help publish Hammerwatch 2 and the Hammerwatch 1 remaster.

Hammerwatch 2 didn't sell well (for a lot of reasons, not all of which can be blamed on it not being Heroes of Hammerwatch 2). Sadly, part of signing on with a publisher typically means handing over some of the ownership or control of your game (usually to a benefit, as the publisher will handle things that a dev may not wish to allocate time/energy towards). Similarly, the Hammerwatch 1 remaster has issues with every single campaign that can render them unplayable. With it no longer being profitable, the publisher chose not to support the title further.

Crackshell left Heroes of Hammerwatch 1 (released prior to signing on with Modus) in a broken state for over a year while they worked on Hammerwatch 2.

Heroes of Hammerwatch 1 has since been fixed and is a lot of fun with friends in co-op. I can definitely recommend it if you're looking for a roguelike experience with persistent progression.

Hammerwatch 1 (not the anniversary edition remaster) is a gauntlet-style RPG with some fairly long campaigns and can also be a lot of fun with friends if you're looking for that sort of experience. If you ever played Gauntlet at the arcade, its probably one of the closest modern experiences.

[White Adjacent]

Originally posted by Sir Pencil:

Crackshell signed on with a publisher (Modus, now Maximum) to help publish Hammerwatch 2 and the Hammerwatch 1 remaster.

Hammerwatch 2 didn't sell well (for a lot of reasons, not all of which can be blamed on it not beign Heroes of Hammerwatch 2). Sadly, part of signing on with a publisher typically means handing over some of the ownership or control of your game (usually to a benefit, as the publisher will handle things that a dev may not wish to allocate time/energy towards). Similarly, the Hammerwatch 1 remaster has issues with every single campaign that can render them unplayable. With it no longer being profitable, the publisher chose not to support the title further.

Crackshell left Heroes of Hammerwatch 1 (released prior to signing on with Modus) in a broken state for over a year while they worked on Hammerwatch 2.

Heroes of Hammerwatch 1 has since been fixed and is a lot of fun with friends in co-op. I can definitely recommend it if you're looking for a roguelike experience with persistent progression.

Hammerwatch 1 (not the anniversary edition remaster) is a gauntlet-style RPG with some fairly long campaigns and can also be a lot of fun with friends if you're looking for that sort of experience. If you ever played Gauntlet at the arcade, its probably one of the closest modern experiences.

Ahh that clears things up ty. Was just curious to the situation as it sounded like Crackshell couldn't even work on HM2 even if they wanted to (in order to fix it) from what I've read.

[Sir Pencil]

For clarification, the publisher (which manages their Hammerwatch 2 and Hammerwatch Anniversary store pages) won't push any patches for either of those titles.

[Clown Reemus]

Originally posted by Sir Pencil:

For clarification, the publisher (which manages their Hammerwatch 2 and Hammerwatch Anniversary store pages) won't push any patches for either of those titles.

So is there any indication the same poor approach won't happen to Heroes of Hammerwatch 2? Is it the same people with the same goal as was the team behind Heroes of Hammerwatch 1?

[White Adjacent]

Originally posted by Clown Reemus:

Originally posted by Sir Pencil:

For clarification, the publisher (which manages their Hammerwatch 2 and Hammerwatch Anniversary store pages) won't push any patches for either of those titles.

So is there any indication the same poor approach won't happen to Heroes of Hammerwatch 2? Is it the same people with the same goal as was the team behind Heroes of Hammerwatch 1?

They're self published now from what I understand so hopefully none of this abandoning a game to work on something else happens again.

[Cowboy Pikachu]

never cared for hammerwatch, only here for HoH