"Spell Cooldown" vs "Cast Speed"?

[Kappieri]

So correct me if I'm wrong, but cast speed feels entirely worthless right> I mean if my spells all take several seconds to cooldown, then I am effectively casting them as "fast as possible" and any cast speed would be wasted? Unless the cooldown is close to zero, cast speed would have no impact right?

(I've done some testing and I THINK cast speed is quicker, but it feels minimal and I'm concerned its just a placebo. I can only have +30% with the gear options available to me so I cant test with like 100% to really tell if there is a difference.)

To clarify, I am using Sorcerer's Discharge to do my testing.

[Muffinslop]

Cast speed is spell cooldown reduction and more. The skill attacks and animates faster too

[Kappieri]

Originally posted by Muffinslop:

Cast speed is spell cooldown reduction and more. The skill attacks and animates faster too

It's cooldown speed too??? Why does it not tell me that? Also why is your name orange lol

[Muffinslop]

I was given the steam forum moderator role

[Kappieri]

Originally posted by Muffinslop:

I was given the steam forum moderator role

Oh neato

[✮ ɨʟʟʊʍɨռǟӄӄɨ ✮]

Originally posted by Muffinslop:

Cast speed is spell cooldown reduction and more. The skill attacks and animates faster too

That seems dumb to me. Why have 2 different name skills if other does everything that the other does and more, but doesn't explain it at all. Should just combine them into one so there's less confusion. So you telling me that i can buy 20% cast speed instead of 15% spell cooldown and its way better? This makes me even more confused why would you get more of the better one and less of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ one? Can you make this make sense to me?

[Kappieri]

Originally posted by ✮ ɨʟʟʊʍɨռǟӄӄɨ ✮:

Originally posted by Muffinslop:

Cast speed is spell cooldown reduction and more. The skill attacks and animates faster too

That seems dumb to me. Why have 2 different name skills if other does everything that the other does and more, but doesn't explain it at all. Should just combine them into one so there's less confusion. So you telling me that i can buy 20% cast speed instead of 15% spell cooldown and its way better? This makes me even more confused why would you get more of the better one and less of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ one? Can you make this make sense to me?

It is odd... It seems like Cast speed makes the cooldown bar move faster and speeds up the casting animation, while cooldown makes your cooldown bar skip a portion of itself altogether. So if you have 50% spell CD then the bar only has to move half as far... I'm unsure what the ideal combination of this is, if any... I think mathematically Cast speed gets worse and worse the more Spell CD you have... So they're not only copies of each other, but don't even stack well together. That said, since each one has a cap, it's not like you can just ignore one or the other, you'd be better off maxing out both if you intend to spam spells.

I do also think they should be combined though. Only like 2 things offer cast speed, and that could simple be replaced with Spell CD or Spell DMG to avoid the confusion and FOMO of what ratio to use.

[✮ ɨʟʟʊʍɨռǟӄӄɨ ✮]

Originally posted by Kappieri:

Originally posted by ✮ ɨʟʟʊʍɨռǟӄӄɨ ✮:

That seems dumb to me. Why have 2 different name skills if other does everything that the other does and more, but doesn't explain it at all. Should just combine them into one so there's less confusion. So you telling me that i can buy 20% cast speed instead of 15% spell cooldown and its way better? This makes me even more confused why would you get more of the better one and less of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ one? Can you make this make sense to me?

It is odd... It seems like Cast speed makes the cooldown bar move faster and speeds up the casting animation, while cooldown makes your cooldown bar skip a portion of itself altogether. So if you have 50% spell CD then the bar only has to move half as far... I'm unsure what the ideal combination of this is, if any... I think mathematically Cast speed gets worse and worse the more Spell CD you have... So they're not only copies of each other, but don't even stack well together. That said, since each one has a cap, it's not like you can just ignore one or the other, you'd be better off maxing out both if you intend to spam spells.

I do also think they should be combined though. Only like 2 things offer cast speed, and that could simple be replaced with Spell CD or Spell DMG to avoid the confusion and FOMO of what ratio to use.

Make this one the top comment.