OOTP 19 is laughable at best

[HispanicAtTheDisco]

Nevermind the constant non-baseball nonsense like Runners consistently scoring from 2nd on a ball lined at an outfielderr without even so much as a play at the plate, or the notorious outfielder stopping to let the ball fall in front of him.

I drafted Cal Ripken Jr, and his Injury Proneness was 180+

Did you guys even ♥♥♥♥ing try? Honestly?

Stay out of the baseball gaming business if you have zero respect or knowledge for the history of the game. It's belittling to the sport and industry as a whole to be so flagrantly ill-informed about the sanctity and rich history of the sport.

This game makes a mochery of Baseball and does a great disservice to anyone who has played it.

Edit : Not to mention, when you tote this game as some super-accurate simulation engine, then proceed to show me glimpses of total historical inaccuracy and logical baseball fallacies, it's hard to trust anything that comes after that.

How am I to trust these "Simulations" if the man who is ONLY in the HOF because of his ability to never be on the DL has a INJ Proneness of 180+?

It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This will be the last OOTP title I own, this infantile nonsense has gone far enough, and I will not let you destroy the history of the game with my money in your pocket.

[Xautos]

HispanicAtTheDisco eredeti hozzászólása:

Nevermind the constant non-baseball nonsense like Runners consistently scoring from 2nd on a ball lined at an outfielderr without even so much as a play at the plate, or the notorious outfielder stopping to let the ball fall in front of him.

I drafted Cal Ripken Jr, and his Injury Proneness was 180+

Did you guys even ♥♥♥♥ing try? Honestly?

Stay out of the baseball gaming business if you have zero respect or knowledge for the history of the game. It's belittling to the sport and industry as a whole to be so flagrantly ill-informed about the sanctity and rich history of the sport.

This game makes a mochery of Baseball and does a great disservice to anyone who has played it.

Edit : Not to mention, when you tote this game as some super-accurate simulation engine, then proceed to show me glimpses of total historical inaccuracy and logical baseball fallacies, it's hard to trust anything that comes after that.

How am I to trust these "Simulations" if the man who is ONLY in the HOF because of his ability to never be on the DL has a INJ Proneness of 180+?

It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This will be the last OOTP title I own, this infantile nonsense has gone far enough, and I will not let you destroy the history of the game with my money in your pocket.

ranting aside, do you have a list of constructive points to show for these inaccuracies?

[Crackawacka]

So you dont like the in-game animation and your favorite player got shafted on some randomly generated stats, thats ot a reason to go full whiny ♥♥♥♥♥

[rustu2k6]

Two things:
One: Mockery is spelled with a K not H
Two: Any baseball fan with any knowledge of the game will tell you that Cal Ripken Jr was a great shortstop in his prime and was among the new wave of bigger power hitting shortstops revolutionizing the position. He is not 'ONLY' in the hall because of the streak, though it certainly helped.

The first is annoying, the second is something basically any fan near or over the age of thirty will fight you over.

Unrelated note: If you're going to mock a Ripken please mock Billy, he's a far easier target.

[mike.xulima]

"How am I to trust these "Simulations" if the man who is ONLY in the HOF because of his ability to never be on the DL has a INJ Proneness of 180+?"

So Ripken never:

- put up a career 92.5 WAR (no player with a WAR that high is not in the HOF, except for PEDs)

- finished his career with 3,184 hits, easily surpassing the gold standard for hits for HOF induction

- socked 431 home runs, playing as a SS

- finished his career with a +310 fielding rating and was one of the best at positioning at SS of all time

- won Rookie of the Year and two MVPs

I mean please, if you think he "ONLY" made the HOF because of the consecutive games streak, you know nothing of the sport yourself and should just shut it.

No the players from Lehman are not perfectly rated, but if every one were perfect, if that much detail went in to every player in history, the game would probably cost $1000 for all the work it would take to edit the rosters.

The 2018 rosters though aren't bad at all. I never agree 100% with how OOTP rates 100% of the players, but it's pretty reasonable ths year - better than last year IMO.

[rustu2k6]

Sorry to add another post here, just wanted to be sure people could see the new info.

We all missed something obvious. Was the 180+ injury rating blue? In OOTP higher numbers are usually better so a 180+(on a 1-100 scale I assume) and blue numbers are exceptional, I'll bet the 180 is a great number which means Cal is basically immortal, check on the injury rating for someone you know had injury issues you'll probably find a low number in red, the color coding in OOTP is from best to worst blue-green-yellow-orange-red. I strongly suspect you just misunderstood how the rating system applies to injuries.
Or give the simulation a chance and play a season or two or seven, I'll bet that Cal won't get hurt.

[NinjaPlease]

What sucks is if supposedly some HOF players have ratings they have above a hardcoded cap that you cant manaully enter even with commisioner mode.

Is that the case? If so, whats the point of it being called an "accurate" baseball sim if the game insists nobody will ever be better in a stat?

Because that's ridiculous if you make the international pool deeper, given baseball draws from not even 15% of the world's pop that if a HOF talent shows up they make it impossible exceed "the best" at some point in a rating stat.

[ZombieHunter]

Remember the background sim is the boss and what you see is just the result of it. Sometimes they don't sync up perfectly.

[Aytum]

NinjaPlease eredeti hozzászólása:

What sucks is if supposedly some HOF players have ratings they have above a hardcoded cap that you cant manaully enter even with commisioner mode.

What?

[Iridescence]

You can edit his injury rating to make it so he hardly ever gets injured. It takes 30 seconds to do it. Of course these are assigned randomly by the game , do you seriously expect them to go through each of tens of thousands of players and assign each a rating for injury proness manually? It is far easier for players to just take a few minutes to learn the game's basic functionality and then use the editor to tweak players themselves to their liking.

[mikesmakingmoney]

This game has been around for over 20 years. It's not a new foray into baseball. I am irritated with some of the 3D stuff not working as it should in conjunction with steam, but it's not really fair to blast the devs as somehow hating baseball because you don't know how to read the injury rating on Ripken properly (180 out of a scale of 1-100 is good). Your other gripes are simply silly. You are upset that an outfielder has to play the ball on a hop? This happens in very literally every single baseball game ever played at every level. Get better fielders if you want their range to be greater. OOTP does a magnificent job with play by play and it's steadily improved year after year for 20 years.

Did you bother going through the different settings, where you can recalculate ratings every single season based on their actual career stats? Did you see that you can even force the AI to use the original lineups? I personally like the "what if" factor so I don't turn those on, but if realism is what you are seeking, you can absolutely set it up to replay Cal's entire career.

[Iridescence]

Actually, high injury prone rating like 180 is bad. Lower injury rating is better. I edit down injury proneness all the time in my historical league as I actually agree with the OP that it makes too many players injury prone in the random system. It's very easy to fix it with the editor though. It's just changing 4 numbers.

[Arcadian Del Sol]

Fan who has lived in Baltimore his whole life, and worked in PR for the Orioles for 3 years: Cal Ripken was injured 4 trimes in his career. What made him stand apart is that he managed to keep playing through injuries and exceed any and all expectations in the position of SS while suffering from:

1. badly twisted knee
2. back injury
3. shoulder tear
4. second injury to knee

In all four cases, he was given the authority to decide if he was going to play or not, based on his HOF caliber of play. Any team with an All-Star caliber player will let him decide if he plays. Cal Ripken Jr was taught a very imporant lesson by his father when he was just a bat boy for the Orioles: "never let your team down. Show up every day and work hard because they are depending on you to do nothing less."

His rating isn't a measure of some superhuman ability to never be hurt. It is a measure of his willingness to play through pain, and still put up league leading performances while hurt.

That, sir, is why he is in the Hall of Fame.

Think about that the next time you call out sick from work because you have a sore throat.

[Painmantle]

The Injury scale is 1-200, not 100 and Yes 180 would be very prone. I have Personally imported Cal; Ripken Jr scores of times via individual import, Drafts and starting Historical leagues in years hs played and have never seen his overall Pronness , back and arm be anything different than 1 (ONE). His Leg proness has come in between 53 and 64 every time.If you are running a Historical League with OOTP Development engine and Ripken is in your draft, then you may see anomilies . Players develop independantly of thier Historical Counterparts with development engine on. IF you use real historical Transactions and/or lineups he will play every game. Who is to say in an alternate universe Cal Doesn't get hurt. Bottom line here is if you have a Cal Ripken with an Injury pronness of 180, that is the exception not the rule.

[Dargone]

I've been playing the game since its inception and your claim about the company's respect and knowledge of the sport is ridiculous. The game is very realistic and while improvements can always be made your comments are inane. A mockery, really?!? Curt Schilling plays the game and he is a huge fan. A boarderline HOF candidate and World Series Champion probably knows a bit more about baseball than yourself.

As far as the Ripken issue is concerned, I play a lot of historical leagues and part of the fun for many of us is the "what if?" factor of the replay. You can play it closer to real life, if you wish, by selecting the real lineups option. Or, as others have stated, it is a simple matter of editing the injury proneness rating.

[Sgt.Johnson]

It''s a great SIMULATION. Move on.