Opinions on "Death of the Outsider"?

[_ShâdowyLight_]

I enjoyed the game I suppose. But I just feel like it was missing something. I didn't feel as satisfied as the 3 stories we played before (Corvo, Daud and Emily). Also, for how short it was, it honestly could've been a DLC for the 2nd game, similar to how we had "Knife of Dunwall" and "Brigmore Witches" for the 1st game. Does anyone else feel this way? It bothers me because I can't quite pinpoint what it is that it's missing, and maybe someone else has felt the same and figured out what it is. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

[ULTRA]

Publicado originalmente por mendeswithans:

Dishonored 2 left me a bit sour on the franchise, but Death of the Outsider has been fine so far. Falls into several of the storytelling pitfalls that D2 suffers from, but at the same time I appreciate how it's more concise. I kinda like it, but it's not great.

Yeah, I agree with everything you said in the thread. Gameplay-wise I think Arkane did a good job iterating the series a little bit but the story was murder. Like you said, too many cutscenes and too many notes to dress up what is a very basic silhouette of the original game's plot. Right at the end of Death of the Outsider it felt more like the storytelling capacity of imm sims was coming to an apocalyptic end - with having to stand around listening to the audio logs - and then being able to easily sprint past the spoiler-guys, before having an unnecessary conversation complete with dialogues that made literally no difference. The ending barely made sense either, as has been the case in Arkane games since after DH 2.

Other than that, the biggest faux pas of DO was repeating the city level of mission 2 in mission 3, and then making mission 4 a redecoration of the Royal Conservatory level. Guys... If you need to fluff up your DLC to make it feature-length, then at least price it like a regular DLC and not at the same price as the previous game which is twice as long with hardly any repetition.

[DLV]

Lots of games do it, no doubt, and I never noticed it's common in games of this genre until you mentioned it. I didn't have a big problem with it, but given the length of the game it sticks out significantly.

[ULTRA]

Yeah exactly. There have been level reshuffles in System Shock 1, Deus Ex, Thief 3, Dark Messiah (lol) and later Prey. The difference is the overall length of the game. When literally 40% of the game is retread, the game is really more like 60% as long as you think it is, i.e. 3 missions, nowhere near worth the same retail price as a game with about 9 original missions (DH 2).

[hitchhiker1959]

I think the reason I was most disappointed was that it left the Outsider in limbo. Sure he is free and he is no longer stuck in the void but it left me feeling there should be more out there for him than a few last lines spoken by Billie Lurk. Truth be told he deserves his own game. He could be given the choice between getting his revenge on the remainders of the cult who wronged him or some higher more noble purpose.

[Kuma]

Finished the game today and it was pretty enjoyable, about half the size of D2 but just as enjoyable.

Spoilers ahead:
As someone that disliked the timeline change in D2, because you basically ran away from the present just to reach a more convenient alternate timeline where Billie gets her arms back felt not only cheap but also ended up being very unsatisfying and inconclusive overall. I was never invested in this new happy Billie in the first place, I wanted to know what would have happened with the old and badass Billie.

This game finally tackled these problems head on, basically facing the reality that this alternate timeline was never "true" or even a good idea in the first place, so you effectively roll back to the original timeline, become the old Billie again and finallly start truly fixing things instead of running away.

Finally meeting Daud again and getting proper closure for what had started with the original DLCS also made me happy.

Considering it all, Death of the Outsider was a gem that both managed to fix weakspots left by previous games and also tie everything together into a solid conclusion for the whole saga.
Really not mad if this is the last game from the series.

[temps]

I don't like the main character and also dislike having fewer spells. The other two games (especially the first one) were better.