Opinions on "Death of the Outsider"?

[_ShâdowyLight_]

I enjoyed the game I suppose. But I just feel like it was missing something. I didn't feel as satisfied as the 3 stories we played before (Corvo, Daud and Emily). Also, for how short it was, it honestly could've been a DLC for the 2nd game, similar to how we had "Knife of Dunwall" and "Brigmore Witches" for the 1st game. Does anyone else feel this way? It bothers me because I can't quite pinpoint what it is that it's missing, and maybe someone else has felt the same and figured out what it is. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

[Sovereign]

It basically is D2's equivalent to Knife of Dunwell and Brigmore Witches. It's just that it was released as a single standalone expansion instead of multiple DLCs.

[Talon]

That's because it IS DLC for the second game just made to act as a standalone thing where you don't need to own Dishonored 2, or have it installed, to play it.

Otherwise, I don't mind Death of the Outsider. I didn't mind the contracts that make you spend more time in a single level and make you explore various routes. Also, for how little in the terms of powers Billie has, her set of abilities can be fun to play around with and admittedly I like Foresight over Dark Vision.

Favorite mission in this would the Bank Job partially because the Clockworks in that mission aren't quite as annoying to deal with or avoid compared to the ones in the base game. Also, you have the option to drop a bank vault as a means of granting an easier escape from the bank.

However, I don't like that the first rank of Agility from Dishonored 1 and 2 was made into a Bonecharm. That ability should have been granted to the player once Billie gets her eye and arm. Also don't care about how Bonecharm Crafting is tied to the twin bladed ritual sword that you get in the Bank Job mission.

[DLV]

Dishonored 2 left me a bit sour on the franchise, but Death of the Outsider has been fine so far. Falls into several of the storytelling pitfalls that D2 suffers from, but at the same time I appreciate how it's more concise. I kinda like it, but it's not great.

[_ShâdowyLight_]

Originally posted by mendeswithans:

Dishonored 2 left me a bit sour on the franchise, but Death of the Outsider has been fine so far. Falls into several of the storytelling pitfalls that D2 suffers from, but at the same time I appreciate how it's more concise. I kinda like it, but it's not great.

What part of DH2's storytelling did you not like? For me, I kinda found it difficult to see Delilah as a real villian. I just really disliked her. Felt too much like a bratty adult rather than a threat. DH1 felt much more like a revenge story, and that I truly loved. Especially once you cross paths with Daud. It was a great feeling!

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by _ShâdowyLight_:

Originally posted by mendeswithans:

Dishonored 2 left me a bit sour on the franchise, but Death of the Outsider has been fine so far. Falls into several of the storytelling pitfalls that D2 suffers from, but at the same time I appreciate how it's more concise. I kinda like it, but it's not great.

What part of DH2's storytelling did you not like? For me, I kinda found it difficult to see Delilah as a real villian. I just really disliked her. Felt to much like a bratty adult rather than a threat. DH1 felt much more like a revenge story, and that I truly loved. Especially once you cross paths with Daud. It was a great feeling!

Delilah is one of the few Dishonored villains that actually does pose a threat, due to having power that rivals the players. By comparison Burrows and Havelock don't really have any chance against you and do little to stop you beyond their initial respective betrayals.

[DLV]

Originally posted by _ShâdowyLight_:

Originally posted by mendeswithans:

Dishonored 2 left me a bit sour on the franchise, but Death of the Outsider has been fine so far. Falls into several of the storytelling pitfalls that D2 suffers from, but at the same time I appreciate how it's more concise. I kinda like it, but it's not great.

What part of DH2's storytelling did you not like? For me, I kinda found it difficult to see Delilah as a real villian. I just really disliked her. Felt to much like a bratty adult rather than a threat. DH1 felt much more like a revenge story, and that I truly loved. Especially once you cross paths with Daud. It was a great feeling!

I don't mean particular plot points, though there are a few I dislike - the fact that Corvo and Emily are interchangeable really robs them of character. Delilah turn either into a statue and tosses the other into a room without being properly restrained; then both characters go on the same journey, and I would find it especially hard to believe that Corvo would run off all over the place when both Delilah and Emily are in the palace, right where he is. Putting Jessamine in the heart is creepy as hell and barely remarked on. And oddly enough, I don't think Corvo should have a voice.

In terms of storytelling, I didn't like the exposition dumps through overlong and unnecessary cutscenes between missions and EXTENSIVE monologues and dialogue, not to mention all the notes - which, granted, are optional. I don't like the fact that Corvo and Emily have the exact same outlook on everything, and when they make comments on people and their surrounding, it's usually sour, shallow, and I dislike them a little more every time they speak. Somehow, I like Billie the more she talks. Not all the time, but on most occasions.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by mendeswithans:

Originally posted by _ShâdowyLight_:

What part of DH2's storytelling did you not like? For me, I kinda found it difficult to see Delilah as a real villian. I just really disliked her. Felt to much like a bratty adult rather than a threat. DH1 felt much more like a revenge story, and that I truly loved. Especially once you cross paths with Daud. It was a great feeling!

I don't mean particular plot points, though there are a few I dislike - the fact that Corvo and Emily are interchangeable really robs them of character. Delilah turn either into a statue and tosses the other into a room without being properly restrained; then both characters go on the same journey, and I would find it especially hard to believe that Corvo would run off all over the place when both Delilah and Emily are in the palace, right where he is. Putting Jessamine in the heart is creepy as hell and barely remarked on. And oddly enough, I don't think Corvo should have a voice.

In terms of storytelling, I didn't like the exposition dumps through overlong and unnecessary cutscenes between missions and EXTENSIVE monologues and dialogue, not to mention all the notes - which, granted, are optional. I don't like the fact that Corvo and Emily have the exact same outlook on everything, and when they make comments on people and their surrounding, it's usually sour, shallow, and I dislike them a little more every time they speak. Somehow, I like Billie the more she talks. Not all the time, but on most occasions.

Corvo probably shouldn't have been playable at all. D2 is Emily's story, she's clearly the intended choice (and the canon one). I think Corvo was just included for the fans sake.

Also Jessamine being in the heart was a Dishonored 1 thing.

[DLV]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

Originally posted by mendeswithans:

I don't mean particular plot points, though there are a few I dislike - the fact that Corvo and Emily are interchangeable really robs them of character. Delilah turn either into a statue and tosses the other into a room without being properly restrained; then both characters go on the same journey, and I would find it especially hard to believe that Corvo would run off all over the place when both Delilah and Emily are in the palace, right where he is. Putting Jessamine in the heart is creepy as hell and barely remarked on. And oddly enough, I don't think Corvo should have a voice.

In terms of storytelling, I didn't like the exposition dumps through overlong and unnecessary cutscenes between missions and EXTENSIVE monologues and dialogue, not to mention all the notes - which, granted, are optional. I don't like the fact that Corvo and Emily have the exact same outlook on everything, and when they make comments on people and their surrounding, it's usually sour, shallow, and I dislike them a little more every time they speak. Somehow, I like Billie the more she talks. Not all the time, but on most occasions.

Corvo probably shouldn't have been playable at all. D2 is Emily's story, she's clearly the intended choice (and the canon one). I think Corvo was just included for the fans sake.

Also Jessamine being in the heart was a Dishonored 1 thing.

Agreed, would've been better with an exclusive focus on Emily.

Jessamine was in the heart in D1? I thought it was just a Piero invention.

[DLV]

Originally posted by Aitrus:

yee it's cool, these are the lines that hint at it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW9x0Mp64AY&t=90s

Yeah, looks like you're right!

[@R+5]

Originally posted by mendeswithans:

Agreed, would've been better with an exclusive focus on Emily.

Jessamine was in the heart in D1? I thought it was just a Piero invention.

i like Corvo in d2, but maybe the game should have offered a dlc exclusive for emily sidequests. imo, i hope theres another dishonored game that includes both corvo and emily, maybe to justify some multiplayer mechanic, for missions that can be "lead" by either of them, plus new characters with different combat skills, or more focused in sabotage or using tools, etc.

[Ssjbryando]

I bought it on sale, just finished it in just under 9hrs. I mean, it's okay. I didn't even know there was a third game, so when I saw it I bought it. D1 > D2 >> D3 for me.

This was clearly meant to be a DLC of sorts. I'd give it a 7-7.2. The last mission was great, the ones before we're simply oke. I also JUST came from playing hitman 2 for the first time, so the downgrades in terms of stealth and maps were noticeable. I do wanna look up some lore.

[MADmilko]

I enjoyed it - got my moneys work out of the game - I'm happy

[Voodoojedizin]

I to cannot get into this game, I'm not quite sure why. I really like the first and second dishonored but this game just seems to have something missing. Part of the problem is the story just isn't working for me. They blame the outsider for all their problems, but he's not behind all the crime and corruption so it kind of falls flat.

[⛧NecromancerBree⛧]

i just want it for the trilogy! Anyone got extra money for me..?

[StarryEyes]

I suppose it's a stand alone title so people like me, who have never played the first two and wanted to give this game a try. So i buy the most recent one, end up really liking it but it's so short that i need more, so now im forced to buy 1 or 2.