Why the hate for this expansion's story?

[Kain]

Is the story as terrible as people say? I mean, no Dishonored game was ever knows for it's amazing narrative, great setting, detailed levels, awesome atmosphere, but not narrative, not even the previous Daud's expansions, which were superior to D1 and D2. So why the hell are people so surprised about the story on this one, how is it SPECIALLY bad?

[t850terminator]

Seeing as most of Dishonored's plots in general have been pretty average at best (the worldbuilding is always exceptional), DOTO really isn't that bad in general.
imo, DOTO was better than Knife of Dunwall, but worse than Brigmore Witches.

[t850terminator]

Wouldn't be suprised if more effort was put into writing each individual little book and note in the game than the story of the actual game itself.

[Muad'Dib]

引用自 t850terminator：

Wouldn't be suprised if more effort was put into writing each individual little book and note in the game than the story of the actual game itself.

I think that's probably the case. No one has ever raved about the stories of any of the games, but many are in love with the Victorian steampunk setting and the lore concerning whales, the Outsider and the Void.

[Muad'Dib]

引用自 ausgothic：

引用自 Muad'Dib：

The person you refer to was only hired to write some of the books and notes that you can find in-game. AFAIK she didn't have a huge role in the main narrative. I know people get triggered by SJW nonsense but I think you're wrong here.

I followed Hazel Monforton on Tumblr for a while and her role was also to write for Daud and Billie directly. Her role might not have been the sole reason for why the game turned out the way it did, but I'm certain it had a larger part than we'd think. Aside from the fact that I think Arkane's hiring of a Big Name Fan is ethnically questionable at best (it's the equivalent of J K Rowling hiring Cassandra Clare to help her write Order of the Phoenix), Monforton just isn't a very good writer - at least, I've never thought so. YMMV.

Yeah that is strange hiring a fan to help write two major characters in a AAA game, even a DLC/standalone. However, we don't really know how much input she actually had in crafting the Daud and Billie arcs. AFAIK she had no professional creative writing experience before DotO, but I admit I don't know much about her.

My only problem with DotO is how Daud changed. At the end of the KoD/BW he took responsibility for his past actions, rescued the heiress to the Empire and was going to retire. However, in DotO, we learn that he "never stopped killing" and now blames the Outsider for his problems. Sure, inheriting supernatural abilities enabled Daud to do what he did, but HE chose to use his magic to become an amoral assassin instead of a hero of some type.

I suspect we'll find out why Daud changed from KoD/BW to DotO in the upcoming novel. However, this makes me think the book should have been released before the game. By the way, this practice of using other media (books, comics, etc.) to flesh out or add to the stories of video games irritates me about the modern gaming industry.

[McDonald's]

引用自 Muad'Dib：

引用自 ausgothic：

I followed Hazel Monforton on Tumblr for a while and her role was also to write for Daud and Billie directly. Her role might not have been the sole reason for why the game turned out the way it did, but I'm certain it had a larger part than we'd think. Aside from the fact that I think Arkane's hiring of a Big Name Fan is ethnically questionable at best (it's the equivalent of J K Rowling hiring Cassandra Clare to help her write Order of the Phoenix), Monforton just isn't a very good writer - at least, I've never thought so. YMMV.

Yeah that is strange hiring a fan to help write two major characters in a AAA game, even a DLC/standalone. However, we don't really know how much input she actually had in crafting the Daud and Billie arcs. AFAIK she had no professional creative writing experience before DotO, but I admit I don't know much about her.

My only problem with DotO is how Daud changed. At the end of the KoD/BW he took responsibility for his past actions, rescued the heiress to the Empire and was going to retire. However, in DotO, we learn that he "never stopped killing" and now blames the Outsider for his problems. Sure, inheriting supernatural abilities enabled Daud to do what he did, but HE chose to use his magic to become an amoral assassin instead of a hero of some type.

I suspect we'll find out why Daud changed from KoD/BW to DotO in the upcoming novel. However, this makes me think the book should have been released before the game. By the way, this practice of using other media (books, comics, etc.) to flesh out or add to the stories of video games irritates me about the modern gaming industry.

For Dauds change I just like to think he got alethimizers(no clue how to spell it and not enough energy to search it up)

[Kain]

For me story is.not canon, it will be forever a fanfic. They ruined the best character in the series. Actually the only true great character with depth and a convincing redemptive arc.

[Aqua]

The bit that did set me off most was the lack of good powers. They felt sort of underwelming compared to DI and DII, there where also way too many guards for sake of plot reasons; for if the ratio of guards was equal to previous games, the powers would have been useless.. and the powers duration is way too short. Skills had less synergy due to having fewer skills and the world did not offer the effects of your choices onto the world as much as the previous two games.. Topping it up, the game felt very short and I would not have minded if the game had more levels and/or larger levels.. the game could have easily been a DLC for DII given its size..

Also noting that DII had features planned for a Kirin Jindosh "good" ending that did not include killing or emptying his brain, but this was cut out due to costs.. I consider that Death of the Outsider expanded on cutting out content cause it felt so very short.