Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™

Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™

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Muad'Dib Sep 18, 2017 @ 11:44am
So what happens after the ending [SPOILERS]
What do you think will happen to people who were Marked after Billie frees/kills the Outsider? The only individual who is still alive and Marked after DotO is either Corvo or Emily (and that's only if you don't refuse the Outsider's Mark in D2). Do they keep their powers, or do they wake up one day and realize the magic is gone?
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Knives Sep 18, 2017 @ 11:57am 
She might, but I can see it going both ways. The Outsider's mark linked her to the void, but I don't know if him being gone makes her lose that connection or not. It's possible that her connection just becomes... more raw.
The Outsider served as a conduit to the void, with him gone it could start bleeding in the world even more. It might very well drive Emily to Granny Rags level craziness now that he's gone.
Or it vanished. I guess we'll never know.
Muad'Dib Sep 18, 2017 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by Knives:
She might, but I can see it going both ways. The Outsider's mark linked her to the void, but I don't know if him being gone makes her lose that connection or not. It's possible that her connection just becomes... more raw.
The Outsider served as a conduit to the void, with him gone it could start bleeding in the world even more. It might very well drive Emily to Granny Rags level craziness now that he's gone.
Or it vanished. I guess we'll never know.

LOL that would be funny if Emily became the new Granny Rags.
Knives Sep 18, 2017 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Muad'Dib:
Originally posted by Knives:
She might, but I can see it going both ways. The Outsider's mark linked her to the void, but I don't know if him being gone makes her lose that connection or not. It's possible that her connection just becomes... more raw.
The Outsider served as a conduit to the void, with him gone it could start bleeding in the world even more. It might very well drive Emily to Granny Rags level craziness now that he's gone.
Or it vanished. I guess we'll never know.

LOL that would be funny if Emily became the new Granny Rags.

I hate myself for even putting that out there, but let's face it, most people that come into contact with the void go mad. While I doubt Emily would, as she's got a strong will, anything could happen
Zekiran Sep 18, 2017 @ 2:30pm 
Canon is Emily, so yeah she might lose her mind.

I personally think that the Void will begin creeping into the World more, as one of the journals seems to hint it wants to. ("want" being a liberal term, it might or might not be sentient enough to 'want' in the way we know the word.) Meaning, magic will probably be *easier* to come by, and more fluid for those who already know how to use it.

Whether the Marked people might change, we don't know - it isn't necessarily just Emily though, because he does tell Daud that (at the time 15 years ago) there were 8. At the time of D2, it is potentially down to 4, so there might be others besides Emily that may be directly affected. I don't think they'll LOSE their magic, but they might not be able to control it as well?
Knives Sep 18, 2017 @ 3:26pm 
Originally posted by Zekiran:
Canon is Emily, so yeah she might lose her mind.

I personally think that the Void will begin creeping into the World more, as one of the journals seems to hint it wants to. ("want" being a liberal term, it might or might not be sentient enough to 'want' in the way we know the word.) Meaning, magic will probably be *easier* to come by, and more fluid for those who already know how to use it.

Whether the Marked people might change, we don't know - it isn't necessarily just Emily though, because he does tell Daud that (at the time 15 years ago) there were 8. At the time of D2, it is potentially down to 4, so there might be others besides Emily that may be directly affected. I don't think they'll LOSE their magic, but they might not be able to control it as well?

We know of 7 total people marked
There was an unnamed woman pre-series
Vera Moray/Granny Rags
Daud
Delilah
The Lonely Rat Boy
Corvo
Emily

We also know that the heart in D2 makes a comment about the void saying only a few people had visited, 3 were empresses (Playing as corvo changes that to 2) so I've always assumed at least one bore the mark, maybe more but it's fuzzy on if that counts jessamine in that list due to the heart.

I tend to agree that their powers are more unstable, or wild. Several times in the series we heard of the hunger that the void exhibits, and now that the Outsider is gone, who knows what it's likely to do.

Also on a side note, I wouldn't be shocked if Corvo didn't re-gain his powers via Emily, we know that both Daud and Deliliah could share their gifts with those loyal to them, and there's no one more loyal to Emily than Corvo.
Muad'Dib Sep 18, 2017 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by Knives:
Originally posted by Zekiran:
Canon is Emily, so yeah she might lose her mind.

I personally think that the Void will begin creeping into the World more, as one of the journals seems to hint it wants to. ("want" being a liberal term, it might or might not be sentient enough to 'want' in the way we know the word.) Meaning, magic will probably be *easier* to come by, and more fluid for those who already know how to use it.

Whether the Marked people might change, we don't know - it isn't necessarily just Emily though, because he does tell Daud that (at the time 15 years ago) there were 8. At the time of D2, it is potentially down to 4, so there might be others besides Emily that may be directly affected. I don't think they'll LOSE their magic, but they might not be able to control it as well?

We know of 7 total people marked
There was an unnamed woman pre-series
Vera Moray/Granny Rags
Daud
Delilah
The Lonely Rat Boy
Corvo
Emily

We also know that the heart in D2 makes a comment about the void saying only a few people had visited, 3 were empresses (Playing as corvo changes that to 2) so I've always assumed at least one bore the mark, maybe more but it's fuzzy on if that counts jessamine in that list due to the heart.

I tend to agree that their powers are more unstable, or wild. Several times in the series we heard of the hunger that the void exhibits, and now that the Outsider is gone, who knows what it's likely to do.

Also on a side note, I wouldn't be shocked if Corvo didn't re-gain his powers via Emily, we know that both Daud and Deliliah could share their gifts with those loyal to them, and there's no one more loyal to Emily than Corvo.

I guess it all depends on Arkane - whether it makes another Dishonored 3 or continues the story in books or comics.

As far as Corvo and Emily are concerned, I'd like for their stories to be finished in future games. Corvo is 54 (he needs some rest) and Emily should be busy running her empire. But I'm not against either of them being featured in a book.
Knives Sep 18, 2017 @ 6:26pm 
Originally posted by Muad'Dib:
Originally posted by Knives:

We know of 7 total people marked
There was an unnamed woman pre-series
Vera Moray/Granny Rags
Daud
Delilah
The Lonely Rat Boy
Corvo
Emily

We also know that the heart in D2 makes a comment about the void saying only a few people had visited, 3 were empresses (Playing as corvo changes that to 2) so I've always assumed at least one bore the mark, maybe more but it's fuzzy on if that counts jessamine in that list due to the heart.

I tend to agree that their powers are more unstable, or wild. Several times in the series we heard of the hunger that the void exhibits, and now that the Outsider is gone, who knows what it's likely to do.

Also on a side note, I wouldn't be shocked if Corvo didn't re-gain his powers via Emily, we know that both Daud and Deliliah could share their gifts with those loyal to them, and there's no one more loyal to Emily than Corvo.

I guess it all depends on Arkane - whether it makes another Dishonored 3 or continues the story in books or comics.

As far as Corvo and Emily are concerned, I'd like for their stories to be finished in future games. Corvo is 54 (he needs some rest) and Emily should be busy running her empire. But I'm not against either of them being featured in a book.

I'm pretty sure this was the end to the Corvo/Emily Daud/Billie chapter, and future games will be a new set of people.

We know the basics of Corvo's ending from the low chaos ending in D1, which also gives us a picture of Emily in old age.

Whatever person we end up playing next, I think the most we'll see of Emily is in newspapers or books. She'll be really old, or long dead. Or maybe not even born yet, if they go back in time.
Zekiran Sep 18, 2017 @ 7:30pm 
When the Heart mentions 3, I think she's meaning Delilah as the third.

And yeah Smith has said that this is the end of the Corvo era story. I would personally prefer to go back in time to prior eras, rather than into the future.
Knives Sep 18, 2017 @ 7:40pm 
Originally posted by Zekiran:
When the Heart mentions 3, I think she's meaning Delilah as the third.

And yeah Smith has said that this is the end of the Corvo era story. I would personally prefer to go back in time to prior eras, rather than into the future.
It could be, I never really considered her an Empress, but I guess technically she was.
That still leaves us with one unknown empress in the past who bore the mark
Zekiran Sep 18, 2017 @ 7:40pm 
Jessamine, Emily, Delilah.
Knives Sep 18, 2017 @ 10:26pm 
Originally posted by Zekiran:
Jessamine, Emily, Delilah.
See its debatable with Jessamine.
If the heart is talking about marked visitors to the void she wouldn't count. Her "visit" if you can call it that was a small part of her, trapped after her death.
Zekiran Sep 18, 2017 @ 10:41pm 
Well, given that it IS her heart and she IS in the ending sequence of DotO, (at least, that's what it seems to be, near Daud) I'm pretty sure she means herself, her daughter, and her half-sister. :)
Knives Sep 18, 2017 @ 11:08pm 
Originally posted by Zekiran:
Well, given that it IS her heart and she IS in the ending sequence of DotO, (at least, that's what it seems to be, near Daud) I'm pretty sure she means herself, her daughter, and her half-sister. :)
It very well could be, I just always assumed there were two long dead marked empresses in the past, made for better backstory in my head :P
Zekiran Sep 18, 2017 @ 11:12pm 
It makes me wonder why he marked Delilah, maybe thinking that she'd be the one to try and free him? That didn't work out so well.
Knives Sep 18, 2017 @ 11:15pm 
Originally posted by Zekiran:
It makes me wonder why he marked Delilah, maybe thinking that she'd be the one to try and free him? That didn't work out so well.
She was interesting. You can hear his admiration for her in the second game when he goes on about pulling herself up from nothing, even if he wasn't happy with her void-escape job, and you've got to admit, her plans for Emily in the DLC made for great amusment for him. We don't know what other possibility he saw in her that didn't involve a coven of witches and coups, she could have done wonders for the world. All that aside, him marking her set a possible path for him to mark Corvo and later Emily. Also marking Daud lead to Billie's betrayal which lead to her "exile" and putting her in a position to help Emily, which lead up to her actions in this game.
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