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Texus Feb 24, 2019 @ 9:54am
Lavos Endfight spoiler
I have beaten him three time already and around the third time it got suddenly a bit more difficult than before I would say.

It's the second time that I had to fight him with only two characters but suddenly it's the most difficult thing in the world appearantely.

Maybe I forgot what I did right before and I know about the different HP of the boss parts, but somehow once in a while he starts a dammage combo that deals around 700-9?? damage and I don't have a chance to heal myself properly.

I just remember I could try it with the other battle option again. Since the third time I suddenly had problems with the boss again and honestly I think if I try to just rush through the endings it might ruin the game for me at the moment because I get impatient with the boss fight after doing it two/ three times already.

I just wanted to see if anyone has something to say about it or even a better strategy. No matter if i did it right before i either do something wrong now or he get's stronger.
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Fallen King Feb 24, 2019 @ 10:43am 
I think in his final stage he have parts who need to be killed and others who regenerates with time. The core changes with the form or stage of the battle, it´s like Birkin in RE game i think.
For what i remember, try powerfull attacks at the egg form part in the corner and forget about the humanoid part at the center in his final stage. It´s hard to remember now, dont sure if is this, or you need to destroy the eggs first and attack the other forms next, but i remember i have killed the egg form and after it he dies (not trully, because Chrono Cross Sequel, but Square have made it only for PS1 :( and dont have made a remake until today, but this is another story.)

Is what i remember, died in this part multiple times too :/ :hurts:
But after i defeat the bastard is truly satisfying :BEjoyful:
Good luck in combat soldier! :aod_salute:
Last edited by Fallen King; Feb 24, 2019 @ 10:47am
Texus Feb 24, 2019 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Lt. John:
I think in his final stage he have parts who need to be killed and others who regenerates with time. The core changes with the form or stage of the battle, it´s like Birkin in RE game i think.
For what i remember, try powerfull attacks at the egg form part in the corner and forget about the humanoid part at the center in his final stage. It´s hard to remember now, dont sure if is this, or you need to destroy the eggs first and attack the other forms next, but i remember i have killed the egg form and after it he dies (not trully, because Chrono Cross Sequel, but Square have made it only for PS1 :( and dont have made a remake until today, but this is another story.)

Is what i remember, died in this part multiple times too :/ :hurts:
But after i defeat the bastard is truly satisfying :BEjoyful:
Good luck in combat soldier! :aod_salute:
Thank you, I think I take a break and try it again in two or three days.
Fallen King Feb 24, 2019 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by SegaSega2:
Originally posted by Lt. John:
I think in his final stage he have parts who need to be killed and others who regenerates with time. The core changes with the form or stage of the battle, it´s like Birkin in RE game i think.
For what i remember, try powerfull attacks at the egg form part in the corner and forget about the humanoid part at the center in his final stage. It´s hard to remember now, dont sure if is this, or you need to destroy the eggs first and attack the other forms next, but i remember i have killed the egg form and after it he dies (not trully, because Chrono Cross Sequel, but Square have made it only for PS1 :( and dont have made a remake until today, but this is another story.)

Is what i remember, died in this part multiple times too :/ :hurts:
But after i defeat the bastard is truly satisfying :BEjoyful:
Good luck in combat soldier! :aod_salute:
Thank you, I think I take a break and try it again in two or three days.
You are welcome! ;) Yeah, for a fight like that rest is true needed :WarriorEmoti:

PS: It´s because that when the dudes destruct Death Star in SW i´m get true nuts with them, you never know when a giant fuc#!ng parasite will come to spend a few seasons in your planet, literally eating the sh!t out of his core :lunar2019laughingpig:
Talking about it now, I´m was always curious about it, from what hell of place this thing have come from? It´s implied he have sucked the energy of countless worlds in its path, and it's implied that he's smart too, but I'm not sure. Luck to him that he did not find a civilization like the Forerunne´s in his way, because if he had, most likely he would have the sh!t beat out of his carcass by them, although the flood have kicked the Forerunner´s @sses hard too, they are not good with parasites... But wait, what about the flood? If they had encountered something like Lavos, i dont sure, but Lavos would be in deep sh!t, and USNC too, imagine the flood assimilating something like Lavos... Hoky ♥♥♥♥!ing sh!t, nightmares here...
OMG, what of a tex huh? I think I remember the beatings that lavos gave my now, really made me angry with him again hahaha
Remembering now when I first found the portal for 1999, needless to say that seeing the game over screen was really like WTF!?
Really awesome times :steamhappy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3ybAODZzM
But a cool ending these one too (remember the importance of have some nukes on the sleeve :D), beside the part of losing hehe
Last edited by Fallen King; Feb 24, 2019 @ 11:28am
Texus Feb 24, 2019 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Lt. John:
Originally posted by SegaSega2:
Thank you, I think I take a break and try it again in two or three days.
You are welcome! ;) Yeah, for fight like that rest is true needed :WarriorEmoti:
PS: It´s because that when the dudes destruct Death Star in SW i´m get true nuts with them, you never know when a giant fuc#!ng parasite will come to spend a few seasons in your planet, literally eating the sh!t out of his core :lunar2019laughingpig:
Talking about it now, I´m was always curious about it, from what hell of place this thing have come from? It´s implied he have sucked the energy of countless worlds in its path, and it's implied that he's smart too, but I'm not sure. Luck to him that he did not find a civilization like the Forerunne´s in his way, because if he had, most likely he would have the sh!t beat out of his carcass by them, although the flood have kicked the Forerunner´s @sses hard too, they are not good with parasites... But wait, what about the flood? If they had encountered something like Lavos, i dont sure, but Lavos would be in deep sh!t, and USNC too, imagine the flood assimilating something like Lavos... Hoky ♥♥♥♥!ing sh!t, nightmares here...
OMG, what of a tex huh? I think I remember the beatings that lavos gave my now, really made me angry with him again hahaha
Remembering now when I first found the portal for 1999, needless to say that seeing the game over screen was really like WTF!?
Really awesome times :steamhappy:
What did they say about him again, does he only send his childs to another planet, is he going there himself?

I also remember something about the childs getting the wisdom and power from the former lavos? Or was it that the childs had to relearn everything?

Because you could be ###### if you get an nicely developed Lavos on your planet.

Oh the first time it was a nice boss, but now he only makes me angry if I nearly defeat him and then he starts some sort of Death laser, Ultima storm and Meteor Crash combination.

I'm curious if he get's stronger the longer he lives
Fallen King Feb 24, 2019 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by SegaSega2:
Originally posted by Lt. John:
You are welcome! ;) Yeah, for fight like that rest is true needed :WarriorEmoti:
PS: It´s because that when the dudes destruct Death Star in SW i´m get true nuts with them, you never know when a giant fuc#!ng parasite will come to spend a few seasons in your planet, literally eating the sh!t out of his core :lunar2019laughingpig:
Talking about it now, I´m was always curious about it, from what hell of place this thing have come from? It´s implied he have sucked the energy of countless worlds in its path, and it's implied that he's smart too, but I'm not sure. Luck to him that he did not find a civilization like the Forerunne´s in his way, because if he had, most likely he would have the sh!t beat out of his carcass by them, although the flood have kicked the Forerunner´s @sses hard too, they are not good with parasites... But wait, what about the flood? If they had encountered something like Lavos, i dont sure, but Lavos would be in deep sh!t, and USNC too, imagine the flood assimilating something like Lavos... Hoky ♥♥♥♥!ing sh!t, nightmares here...
OMG, what of a tex huh? I think I remember the beatings that lavos gave my now, really made me angry with him again hahaha
Remembering now when I first found the portal for 1999, needless to say that seeing the game over screen was really like WTF!?
Really awesome times :steamhappy:
What did they say about him again, does he only send his childs to another planet, is he going there himself?

I also remember something about the childs getting the wisdom and power from the former lavos? Or was it that the childs had to relearn everything?

Because you could be ###### if you get an nicely developed Lavos on your planet.

Oh the first time it was a nice boss, but now he only makes me angry if I nearly defeat him and then he starts some sort of Death laser, Ultima storm and Meteor Crash combination.

I'm curious if he get's stronger the longer he lives
Yes, what is worse, an infestation of these things is very dangerous, just to imagine ...
And the most fascinating and worst is that they have the ability to control / manipulate time, whether they actually have some level of ration or intelligence greater than or equal to ours, well the universe would be literally screwed with something like that
I think he true geets more strong, because he change in every single boss defeated by us in the game, and is said too more the time he spend in the planet core, more strenght he achieve, because of this i think the lavos in prehistoric and medieval age is more weak (but Magus cannot kill him i think, he is already too strong) than the lavos in 1999, but because of the programming and plot is not possible face him and defeat him in a less strong stage, but i´m dont sure about it, i have made some endings and after some searching i have discover the amount of possible ones is true more great than i have tought initially, is a awesome thing for a game have, but because the lack of time and dificult in defeat lavos in the end i not have made all of them, but it´s appear the game have a lot of decisions for influence in this different paths for what i have seen.
The sad thing i have discovered after is: Guardia Kingdom have been beaten by some savages some time after the first game, and your heroes probably are all dead :/

PS: Remembered now here, is possible avoid the first fight with him in his first form (tortoise form), by throwing Epoch, the time machine vessel in his ugly face, but the machine gets destroyed by that.
Last edited by Fallen King; Feb 24, 2019 @ 11:44am
Fallen King Feb 24, 2019 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by SegaSega2:
Originally posted by Lt. John:
You are welcome! ;) Yeah, for fight like that rest is true needed :WarriorEmoti:
PS: It´s because that when the dudes destruct Death Star in SW i´m get true nuts with them, you never know when a giant fuc#!ng parasite will come to spend a few seasons in your planet, literally eating the sh!t out of his core :lunar2019laughingpig:
Talking about it now, I´m was always curious about it, from what hell of place this thing have come from? It´s implied he have sucked the energy of countless worlds in its path, and it's implied that he's smart too, but I'm not sure. Luck to him that he did not find a civilization like the Forerunne´s in his way, because if he had, most likely he would have the sh!t beat out of his carcass by them, although the flood have kicked the Forerunner´s @sses hard too, they are not good with parasites... But wait, what about the flood? If they had encountered something like Lavos, i dont sure, but Lavos would be in deep sh!t, and USNC too, imagine the flood assimilating something like Lavos... Hoky ♥♥♥♥!ing sh!t, nightmares here...
OMG, what of a tex huh? I think I remember the beatings that lavos gave my now, really made me angry with him again hahaha
Remembering now when I first found the portal for 1999, needless to say that seeing the game over screen was really like WTF!?
Really awesome times :steamhappy:
What did they say about him again, does he only send his childs to another planet, is he going there himself?

I also remember something about the childs getting the wisdom and power from the former lavos? Or was it that the childs had to relearn everything?

Because you could be ###### if you get an nicely developed Lavos on your planet.

Oh the first time it was a nice boss, but now he only makes me angry if I nearly defeat him and then he starts some sort of Death laser, Ultima storm and Meteor Crash combination.

I'm curious if he get's stronger the longer he lives
Another thing, a curious one and i think it´s not explained...
The director in 1999 knows about Lavos, and appear the rest of people dont´s, true interesting this... For what i heard, appear some important people in Chrono Universe have links by descent or something of the kind, I do not know if by factors like family or government, maybe that would explain it, and this make me tought, is like the scenario "goverment knows about the end of the world, but can do little about it or dont even try ", not sure about what of these two is truth, but appear in 1999 the goverment does not have defense or preparations of any type, only the shelters (maybe done for this, but it's not said it, so i dont sure if that makes sense), but the lack of information is what makes the apocalypt scenario cool i think, like Walking Dead :Steamhappy:
Maybe Lavos attack in 1999, because he knows humans are becoming advanced so much and maybe can use their tech to destroy him in some way?
Last edited by Fallen King; Feb 24, 2019 @ 12:03pm
Texus Feb 24, 2019 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by Lt. John:
Originally posted by SegaSega2:
What did they say about him again, does he only send his childs to another planet, is he going there himself?

I also remember something about the childs getting the wisdom and power from the former lavos? Or was it that the childs had to relearn everything?

Because you could be ###### if you get an nicely developed Lavos on your planet.

Oh the first time it was a nice boss, but now he only makes me angry if I nearly defeat him and then he starts some sort of Death laser, Ultima storm and Meteor Crash combination.

I'm curious if he get's stronger the longer he lives
Another thing, a curious one and i think it´s not explained...
The director in 1999 knows about Lavos, and appear the rest of people dont´s, true interesting this... For what i heard, appear some important people in Chrono Universe have links by descent or something of the kind, I do not know if by factors like family or government, maybe that would explain it, and this make me tought, is like the scenario "goverment knows about the end of the world, but can do little about it or dont even try ", not sure about what of these two is truth, but appear in 1999 the goverment does not have defense or preparations of any type, only the shelters (maybe done for this, but it's not said it, so i dont sure if that makes sense), but the lack of information is what makes the apocalypt scenario cool i think, like Walking Dead :Steamhappy:
uhm with Director do you mean the guy that's in that weird military base that you only see when Lavos beats you up?

I still have to figure out to visit the dark cave, get behind that blue frog thing that blocks the other path of where the leftover reptites are and I still have to see the water temple I think.
I'm not even sure if I did all the seal breaking stuff. I managed to find most of the sidequests myself but a few days ago I found out there is still much I haven't seen yet. (little things)
Fallen King Feb 24, 2019 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by SegaSega2:
Originally posted by Lt. John:
Another thing, a curious one and i think it´s not explained...
The director in 1999 knows about Lavos, and appear the rest of people dont´s, true interesting this... For what i heard, appear some important people in Chrono Universe have links by descent or something of the kind, I do not know if by factors like family or government, maybe that would explain it, and this make me tought, is like the scenario "goverment knows about the end of the world, but can do little about it or dont even try ", not sure about what of these two is truth, but appear in 1999 the goverment does not have defense or preparations of any type, only the shelters (maybe done for this, but it's not said it, so i dont sure if that makes sense), but the lack of information is what makes the apocalypt scenario cool i think, like Walking Dead :Steamhappy:
uhm with Director do you mean the guy that's in that weird military base that you only see when Lavos beats you up?

I still have to figure out to visit the dark cave, get behind that blue frog thing that blocks the other path of where the leftover reptites are and I still have to see the water temple I think.
I'm not even sure if I did all the seal breaking stuff. I managed to find most of the sidequests myself but a few days ago I found out there is still much I haven't seen yet. (little things)
Yeah, the dude who stay in the room with ceiling falling apart.
Sure a lot of conent, i dont sure if i have completed everything too, i need sometime grab this again and look for a guide of 100% in internet for make sure i do everything.
I remember is possible do a sidequest for repair a damaged castle too (not sure if is here, Cirus have been buried), but is a cool mission, but needs a lot of money for what i remember.
Talking about it, you have decide already if you will forgive magus or beat the bastard? :lunar2019laughingpig:
I dont have give forgiveness for him, he have killed Cirus, a cool dude him, good knight and figthing for his country. talking about him, you have seen the way the ancestral queen talk about him? i think she and him are in love and cannot be together because the Royal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of Medieval Age i think, very sad to think about it, poor Cirus :( :steamsad:
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CloudSeeker Feb 24, 2019 @ 12:36pm 
There is often a ending many do not think about and that is when Magus summon Lavos.
Fallen King Feb 24, 2019 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by CloudSeeker:
There is often a ending many do not think about and that is when Magus summon Lavos.
Really? Some link for it? (If not, what happens then?) Curious to see it now :D
CloudSeeker Feb 24, 2019 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by Lt. John:
Originally posted by CloudSeeker:
There is often a ending many do not think about and that is when Magus summon Lavos.
Really? Some link for it? (If not, what happens then?) Curious to see it now :D
It really is more when you fail to stop Magus by dying to him in the fight. It is pretty short but it is technically the end of the story where Lavos ends up destroying the world in 600AD instead of 1999.
Texus Feb 24, 2019 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by Lt. John:
Originally posted by CloudSeeker:
There is often a ending many do not think about and that is when Magus summon Lavos.
Really? Some link for it? (If not, what happens then?) Curious to see it now :D
Yep I have forgiven him the first time mostly because I got spoilered and the second time not, which made the whole Lavos fight a lot more difficult I believe.

I need to use a guide again to see when I can still get to the boss fight when I want to get the frog succesor or whateveer ending.

Not sure if he had the informations, but now that I think about it, it seems stupid that he tried to beat Lavos alone after it already had some time to grow a healthy and strong body.

That Frog character in the game is actually the first frog I liked as a main char even if I saw him as a bad character for several reasons and mostly because he dissapointed me in the lavos fight.

Now I use Ayla, Chrono and Lucca again as far as it is possible for what I need to do for the endings.
Fallen King Feb 24, 2019 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by CloudSeeker:
Originally posted by Lt. John:
Really? Some link for it? (If not, what happens then?) Curious to see it now :D
It really is more when you fail to stop Magus by dying to him in the fight. It is pretty short but it is technically the end of the story where Lavos ends up destroying the world in 600AD instead of 1999.
I have searched a bit about it now and in a youtube video a guy says if you beat lavos with just Magus, a special ending shows up. But in the video description it´s said the video got corrupted or some kind of this stuff, dont sure if is a troll afirmation or if this is really truth, but i not have find other videos or info for now about this. A lot of people says is possible 13 different endings, but i dont have sure about it too.
Link of the Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXxPlzH6AEo

PS: It´s implied in all endings, a part of lavos core have survived the fight, see the end of the video, i think this part is the part seen in Chrono Cross (and i heard in Cross, all the mess done is all the fault of Baltazar i think, he maintain the part of lavos who survived for study it, and have constructed a computer for contain it in some type of quarentine, but the sh!t thing learn some way of corrupt the computer and spread chaos again).

Some discussion about the stuff who involve´s magus role too here:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/950181-chrono-trigger/45744954?page=1
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Fallen King Feb 24, 2019 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by SegaSega2:
Originally posted by Lt. John:
Really? Some link for it? (If not, what happens then?) Curious to see it now :D
Yep I have forgiven him the first time mostly because I got spoilered and the second time not, which made the whole Lavos fight a lot more difficult I believe.

I need to use a guide again to see when I can still get to the boss fight when I want to get the frog succesor or whateveer ending.

Not sure if he had the informations, but now that I think about it, it seems stupid that he tried to beat Lavos alone after it already had some time to grow a healthy and strong body.

That Frog character in the game is actually the first frog I liked as a main char even if I saw him as a bad character for several reasons and mostly because he dissapointed me in the lavos fight.

Now I use Ayla, Chrono and Lucca again as far as it is possible for what I need to do for the endings.
Yes, he clearly underestimate lavos power and super estimate his own. And the war with Guardia, is a dumb thing for him do too. I think he grow up without a father (not much information about it), and lack of his mother/queen attention (maybe because the lot of duties has a queen and because lavos influence too), and the tought incrusted in most of the zeal kingdom people, of people with magic being superior than the people without powers, maybe make him have the thought of superiority, and having royal blood too, make him try to seize the lands and the kingdom from Guardia Royal Family. Not a good thing i think, he already have a enemy to defeat, not need of making new ones and pick discractions too, i think if us not have interfered in his ritual, he probably will fail in defeat lavos too
Another sad thing is the Story of Magus sister too, poor girl :steamsad:
Everyone is saved by us, but not her

Lavos as alien appear be what have bring magic/time tech with him to earth, a interesting thing i think, not sure. Appear his power come from the planet core, so i dont sure if the magic, time tech is from him or of the planet core reaction. Because he is a parasite, so he seize, not develops. This make me think, maybe his power come from the different type of enegry he absorves around the planets in the universe too. But baltazar can make this type of thing (Epoch) with tech too, so most probably it´s not only from lavos maybe
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Fallen King Mar 3, 2019 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by CloudSeeker:
Originally posted by Lt. John:
Really? Some link for it? (If not, what happens then?) Curious to see it now :D
It really is more when you fail to stop Magus by dying to him in the fight. It is pretty short but it is technically the end of the story where Lavos ends up destroying the world in 600AD instead of 1999.
Originally posted by SegaSega2:
Originally posted by Lt. John:
Really? Some link for it? (If not, what happens then?) Curious to see it now :D
Yep I have forgiven him the first time mostly because I got spoilered and the second time not, which made the whole Lavos fight a lot more difficult I believe.

I need to use a guide again to see when I can still get to the boss fight when I want to get the frog succesor or whateveer ending.

Not sure if he had the informations, but now that I think about it, it seems stupid that he tried to beat Lavos alone after it already had some time to grow a healthy and strong body.

That Frog character in the game is actually the first frog I liked as a main char even if I saw him as a bad character for several reasons and mostly because he dissapointed me in the lavos fight.

Now I use Ayla, Chrono and Lucca again as far as it is possible for what I need to do for the endings.

Found this DS exclusive ending (dont sure if is exclusive for DS only), when you fight another lavos form, dont sure, but the magus sister is here, being captive of the parasite and are crazy like his mother, but when magus sucessfully release her, she sends all of you back in time and remain being drained by lavos, i dont understand this, some people are saying it´s because this magus go to medieval age with no memories. And i think this place in time is a reallity here lavos is defeated, and the egg who survived the fight with your party, the part who survived, regrow and in some form hold magus sister captive, like in Chrono Cross, so some people say this ending is the prelude of chrono cross, but i´m dont sure about it, you or someone, maybe in some place, have some intel about this to clarify things? Thanks. And i think when i see this video this morning: "i need to share this with you guys". So there is the video of the ending:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AalT1dVmgiw
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