Don't buy it. Please.

[Foroneus]

So Skyrim came out on 2011, was an even larger step backwards from the quality of their older games, and although it had alright DLC, it was still riddled with bugs and glitches. If you played it on consoles, you got it worse due to all the bugs not even able to have been patched with mods.

Then it got re-released as the Special Edition, which was a technological leap compared to the original; if you got it working, it was fairly stable, and you got it for free if you already owned the original. (Then they hid the store page of the original because they knew that people didn't like how it hardly changed how the game was played, and that they'll tell others to play the original, $30 one.) Still buggy as ♥♥♥♥, and the modding community from Oldrim practically had to start over, and it still isn't fully up to where Oldrim was in terms of relative ease of modding.

Oh, and it's basically just as buggy as before 'cause ♥♥♥♥ you, you likely bought anyway (before you call me a hypocrite, I got it for free, as I mentioned previously). Mod support was added to consoles in such a sad and pathetic state, it may have actually been worse than no mod support at all. And then there's Switch Skyrim. Prettier Oldrim with amiibo and basic motion control support. Arguably would've been better to just play vanilla Oldrim on lowest settings with an F710 on one of those Ryzen APU laptops.

Now we got Skyrim VR, where it's the same ♥♥♥♥ as before, but it may not be based on the Special Edition, or even have modding support. We don't know what the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ menus look like, which was the main issue people had with the VR mods from Oldrim, and the current PSVR version is not different to how it's always looked.

We're at over 6 years after Skyrim's release, and game's been getting worse as time goes on. Bethesda has gotten scummier as time goes on. Our ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ standards of quality for these games has gotten lower as time goes on.

If you actually care about Bethesda and the gaming industry as a whole, please don't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ buy it. I'm seriously begging you whoever's reading this, don't buy this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ overpriced trash-heap. Please. If you do, ♥♥♥♥'s gonna get worse from here, you'll be showing that you're willing to pay full-price for a single mod. Remember how bad ♥♥♥♥ went with Battlefront 2 and its micro-transactions? 'cause this is how it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ starts, giving these companies money for something that they don't deserve. Take your cash somewhere else, I'm begging you. Don't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ buy it.

[Ztreak]

https://uploadvr.com/skyrim-vr-reaches-steams-top-10-sellers-less-24-hours/

I belive people do what they want, and so do i. Gonna buy the hell out of this.

[--ranXerox--]

I gave away 4 copies already. I love giving games away. lol. stop trolling. you should ask nintendo to give you a copy. VR is a platform. buy the game for the platform you want it on. you don't need to buy 4, 5, 6 copies.

[mickydickybob]

Nicely written, and with passion.

As you can tell by my mouse icon, I already have.

You see, I bought the Vive because I am house bound, I have asperger's and sensory processing disorder with extremly high anxiety levels.

I have been diagnosed by both a clinical psychologist and an occupational therapist.

(I did a Mensa test and scored 143)

VR for me is escapism (I have en eye test booked where they come to my house, which is just as well as I'm going as blind as a bat)

So, I bought the Vive to see things...I love Google Earth, and because you're a nice person who wrote a lovely long post...I can do this...

Chapter Nine

The muted noises when waking from sleep came deep and distant. Like breaking through from sea to sky the bass rumble turned to treble and the sounds of people talking and moving became discernable.
“Put the light on.” said a voice, and with it a pain as sharp as the light was bright fell upon closed sensitive eyes.
“He's awake.”
Was that a woman or a man he heard?
“Glaius can you hear me? Can you open your eyes?” and Glaius realised it was a woman.
Opening his eyes the light sliced into his brain. He tried to raise his arm to cover his face, but his jellied arm failed in a flaccid response. He tried to say something, but emitted a mumble of gibberish.
“No need to speak. Just see if you can follow my finger.”
A finger was thrust in front of his face and moved side to side.
“Tracking is fine.”
“Check speech and muscle control.” said a man.
“Glaius can you move your arms? Try to touch my hand.”
With encouragement and effort Glaius managed to raise his right arm and make contact with the out-stretched hand.
“Good. Now the other one.”
More effort, more encouragement.
“Well done. Can you say hello to me?”
Glaius made a grunting sound.
“Very good. Try again.”
“Egh-o.”
“And again.”
“Ehl-o.”
“You're doing fine. We'll leave you to rest now.”
The last of the group to leave the room dimmed the lights closed the door, leaving a disorientated Glaius to sink into sleep.

[WarMachine]

Bwahahaa Yea, not likely. This is going to be one of the best selling games to date in PC VR. We care about VR, and without proof that there is a AAA market, larger Devs won't get involded. Kinda luck we're even getting VR ports. Seeing as you don't have a HMD, you really don't understand. Proven by the fact you didn't know that Beth hasn't touched this game since the last DLC, you don't even know who is making these ports. This game is one of the most requested, and already one of the best selling games across ALL VR platforms. Its already been released on PSVR as a timed exclusive, your campaing failed before you even wrote that post.

[Foroneus]

Originally posted by Ztreak:

https://uploadvr.com/skyrim-vr-reaches-steams-top-10-sellers-less-24-hours/

I belive people do what they want, and so do i. Gonna buy the hell out of this.

You're killing this industry by buying this. If you buy this overpriced mod, why shouldn't Battlefront 2 have micro-transactions, or Bethesda continue their Creation Club service? What's different about either?

[Foroneus]

Originally posted by ranXerox:

I gave away 4 copies already. I love giving games away. lol. stop trolling. you should ask nintendo to give you a copy. VR is a platform. buy the game for the platform you want it on. you don't need to buy 4, 5, 6 copies.

I'm not trolling at all, and "having to buy 4-6 copies" isn't my point at all. It's the fact that these re-re-releases improve upon nothing. VR being a platform is irrelevant to my point.

[Foroneus]

Originally posted by mickydickybob:

-snip-

Thanks, and I'm at least somewhat glad that you can enjoy it. But my point was that, you don't _need_ to buy this as a whole new game, or at least for sixty dollars. A free update to the Special Edition, as DLC to the Special Edition, or even as a full game at a significantly lower price would've been perfectly reasonable solutions.

[WarMachine]

Originally posted by Foron:

Originally posted by mickydickybob:

-snip-

A free update to the Special Edition, as DLC to the Special Edition, or even as a full game at a significantly lower price would've been perfectly reasonable solutions.

Thats not even possible. The creation engine has been upgraded to a new version, not compatable with Skyrim SE or Oldrim.

[WeirdWizardDave]

Originally posted by Foron:

Originally posted by ranXerox:

I gave away 4 copies already. I love giving games away. lol. stop trolling. you should ask nintendo to give you a copy. VR is a platform. buy the game for the platform you want it on. you don't need to buy 4, 5, 6 copies.

I'm not trolling at all, and "having to buy 4-6 copies" isn't my point at all. It's the fact that these re-re-releases improve upon nothing. VR being a platform is irrelevant to my point.

It improves upon Skyrim's flat screen rendering and mouse/keyboard/controller input by adding headset tracking, stereoscopic vision and motion controller input. Thats a pretty massive bunch of improvements right there. Transformative in fact. Worth every penny no less. This has nothing to do with loot crates or paid mods, stop conflating unrelated issues. The VR port is good for everyone and is being sold at a fair price for the market size with a good chance of turning a healthy profity which will in turn spur more investment in VR which is good for everyone.

[Foroneus]

Originally posted by WarMachine:

Bwahahaa Yea, not likely. This is going to be one of the best selling games to date in PC VR. We care about VR, and without proof that there is a AAA market, larger Devs won't get involded. Kinda luck we're even getting VR ports. Seeing as you don't have a HMD, you really don't understand. Proven by the fact you didn't know that Beth hasn't touched this game since the last DLC, you don't even know who is making these ports. This game is one of the most requested, and already one of the best selling games across ALL VR platforms. Its already been released on PSVR as a timed exclusive, your campaing failed before you even wrote that post.

Yes, I realize that people have already been buying it. And it disgusts the ♥♥♥♥ out of me. But that's not the point here.

There could've been plenty of more consumer-friendly ways they could have given you VR, but they charged you sixty dollars for a six-year-old game with only one addition that was already added through a mod way before VR really took off. That's my point of contention here.

[ositodefelpa]

There are actually very few games I want to play nowadays (I'm a bit burnt out after more than 40 years of computer gaming), but this is one I want to play. So, I have a better idea: you don't buy it; I will buy it.

All all this stuff about 'killing the industry' is a very simplistic analysis of the situation. The only thing I have any real objection to is the use of random loot crates, and I hope these will shortly be made illegal by governments.

[Oku]

I want Skyrim on my rift, i'll buy skyrim on my rift.

I loved Skyrim just as much as I loved Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion.

And because this is in the top sellers, plenty of people agree with me.

Stop getting mad because people like things you don't.

[Foroneus]

Originally posted by WarMachine:

Originally posted by Foron:

A free update to the Special Edition, as DLC to the Special Edition, or even as a full game at a significantly lower price would've been perfectly reasonable solutions.

Thats not even possible. The creation engine has been upgraded to a new version, not compatable with Skyrim SE or Oldrim.

There has been a mod for Oldrim that added VR support years ago, so it's definitely not impossible without a full re-release.

Can you give a source that says the engine was specifically updated for this to work?

[WeirdWizardDave]

Originally posted by Foron:

There could've been plenty of more consumer-friendly ways they could have given you VR, but they charged you sixty dollars for a six-year-old game with only one addition that was already added through a mod way before VR really took off. That's my point of contention here.

Yes we could of gotten it for less, or indeed nothing but then Bethesda would make a loss on it. How is that going to encourage them or anyone else to invest in VR?

[Foroneus]

Originally posted by AarkTheDragon:

I want Skyrim on my rift, i'll buy skyrim on my rift.

I loved Skyrim just as much as I loved Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion.

And because this is in the top sellers, plenty of people agree with me.

Stop getting mad because people like things you don't.

This is not about whether I like VR or not, you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot. My point is that Bethesda could've given you Skyrim VR without making it a whole new game charged full-price.