No discount for fallout 4 owners

[d0x360]

Seriously Bethesda? I already own fallout 4 and all the dlc. Why can't you sell this to people who already own the game for like $30? Seems a tad greedy if you ask me.

If you don't want to give any discount then I guess I'll wait till it's on sale for $15-20.

As for people saying the price is fine...you are insane. 95% of the work was already done. Adding vr support to a game isn't that challenging. You can do it in unity, ue4 and cryengine in about 5 min. Then it's a matter of deciding how to handle movement. God help me I hope teleporting isn't the only option. I hate teleporting. I'd much rather walk around like a normal game. I don't care if it gives some people motion sickness. Let those people use the teleporting control scheme. Personally I think being able to teleport around while fighting is cheating but that's just me.

[foxpur]

As we haven't got a 'release' cost yet we really don't know if there will be a discount for normal players

[Team Triss]

Agreed on all counts, but I gave in last time GMG ran an E3 sale and got somewhere in the ballpark of 30% off. Would have preferred 50%, but if there's a better deal here due to loyalty discounts I can refund it.

[LemonyNebula]

Yup same as above I also got 28% off on GMG to hold back the deal until we know for sure the price. It is still on btw, the 18% code is on the fallout 4 gmg storepage and the game is currently 10% off making 28% total if anyone else is still interested.

[Blotto]

Never preorder ever. But they have spent over 1 full year developing the game for VR and that does cost money. At the very least all the DLC should be fully included and be less than 80 bucks.

[LemonyNebula]

Originally posted by Blotto:

Never preorder ever.

This I would normally agree with. But as you can cancel at any time, It does not hurt to hold back what could be a good deal until you know more. Hear nothing before release or see things you don't like? cancel. Like what you see? keep it, you just got yourself the game for cheaper.

[foxpur]

Originally posted by Blotto:

Never preorder ever. But they have spent over 1 full year developing the game for VR and that does cost money. At the very least all the DLC should be fully included and be less than 80 bucks.

Generally ok, unless you know enough about why you are buying..
For example, I bought in to Elite: Dagerous the minute I heard about it. But then been playing Elite since 1984

[The Roadstar]

Meh. If they do it well and really make it work, I'll happily give them another $60. And I've already played through the game and the DLC several times. I have no gripes about paying again. They deserve it. It's not like it's free to convert the game to VR. I appreciate that they're doing it at all.

[therealshakur]

if you own it for Xbox and want it on PS4 do you get a discount?

also, if you can get this working in 5 minutes why don't you save the $60 and make your own copy of fallout 4VR Mr.smartypants.

[d0x360]

Originally posted by Blotto:

Never preorder ever. But they have spent over 1 full year developing the game for VR and that does cost money. At the very least all the DLC should be fully included and be less than 80 bucks.

That makes it sound complicated when it isn't...at all. Bethesda has all the vr code and research they need from idtech.

They have a team of about 5 people plugging that code into the engine then making minor tweaks to make the game more VR friendly. Then they run it through debug which would likely take a small team a couple of months.

Don't let Bethesda fool you into thinking this is some massive project.

Right now YOU could go to the unity store, get the engine SDK, a basic asset package and a VR plugin and have a game up and running in a day. Within a week you would have something that would qualify for early access and this is assuming you have zero experience making a game whatsoever.

I don't think it's much to ask when I say people who bought this game at full price deserve some kind of discount on it. Hell I bought the season pass too. I don't feel entitled to free content. Bethesda deserves to get paid for their work even if it is in reality very minimal.

Having the VR version as DLC for like $20 makes far more sense than releasing it as a new game. I'm not asking for some huge discount.

I'm a very loyal Bethesda customer. Have been since long before Morrowind. I've bought their games on multiple platforms, I've bought all their dlc and all I'm asking for is not to be gouged by them when this is released.

If you don't want a discount that's fine and if you waited and bought this game super cheap then awesome for you.

Jesus even Nordic games gave people free copies of their Darksiders remasters and they are the cheapest company around.

Bethesda should want to sell as many copies as this as possible and I want to be there playing it on day 1 but if they charge full price I'll wait until it's basically free. Then Bethesda makes less than they would have had they sold it at a discount for those that bought the original at launch.

But I guess that makes me just a terrible person. Me and my loyalty....awful grumble grumble entitled blah blah.

[d0x360]

Originally posted by therealshakur:

if you own it for Xbox and want it on PS4 do you get a discount?

also, if you can get this working in 5 minutes why don't you save the $60 and make your own copy of fallout 4VR Mr.smartypants.

What planet are you on? We aren't talking about consoles and no that wouldn't make sense...

Also considering they just plugged idtech vr code into the engine yes u could get it working in 5 min. If Bethesda wants to send me their source and tools I'd be happy to let someone film me doing it.

Rendering something in vr is really damn easy when the code was written long before fallout 4 ever came out.

[therealshakur]

Originally posted by d0x360:

Originally posted by therealshakur:

if you own it for Xbox and want it on PS4 do you get a discount?

also, if you can get this working in 5 minutes why don't you save the $60 and make your own copy of fallout 4VR Mr.smartypants.

What planet are you on? We aren't talking about consoles and no that wouldn't make sense...

Also considering they just plugged idtech vr code into the engine yes u could get it working in 5 min. If Bethesda wants to send me their source and tools I'd be happy to let someone film me doing it.

Rendering something in vr is really damn easy when the code was written long before fallout 4 ever came out.

I'm on planet earth, perhaps you should join us.

if that doesnt make sense then why would you think everyone deserves the VR version for free or at a discount?

I dont pretend to know what it takes to develop video games, but I can guarantee it would take you a lot longer to produce a working fallout 4VR. you are just talking out your ass.

[LemonyNebula]

Originally posted by d0x360:

That makes it sound complicated when it isn't...at all. Bethesda has all the vr code and research they need from idtech.

They have a team of about 5 people plugging that code into the engine then making minor tweaks to make the game more VR friendly. Then they run it through debug which would likely take a small team a couple of months.

Don't let Bethesda fool you into thinking this is some massive project.

Right now YOU could go to the unity store, get the engine SDK, a basic asset package and a VR plugin and have a game up and running in a day. Within a week you would have something that would qualify for early access and this is assuming you have zero experience making a game whatsoever.
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You know just becuase you state something as fact does not make it so. 5 minutes? If you can do that Barry Allen then get in the industry stat. 'Occupation: The Flash' would do wonders on your portfolio.

Oh and who knew you had the insider insight to know how many employees Bethesda has working on this game. Wow, you must really know your stuff!

Not only that but comparing a VR conversion of a 100+ hours game not created or designed with VR in mind in an out of date engine to a from scratch VR asset flip is just nonsence. Those two things are nothing alike.

By all means ask for a discount but don't spread that ridiculusness.

[Wrinkly]

The price corresponds to the work required vs the projected sales. VR is still very expensive and thus the number of consumers is tiny in comparison to those who are able to play the non VR version.

[david_lmg]

The current pre-release price is USD$79.95. Be nice if they gave some discount for existing users (x-Rebirth VR devs did).

[therealshakur]

Originally posted by david_lmg:

The current pre-release price is USD$79.95. Be nice if they gave some discount for existing users (x-Rebirth VR devs did).

never heard of it. but it's 2 years older than fallout and prolly need to do that in order to make any money. supply and demand my friend.

now don't get me wrong, I think they are milking the price a little bit but they will also be selling a lot less of this version. so to make up for the costs of development and put some money into the pockets of the directors/shareholders who had to agree to take this risk, they put it at the same price as the original. although they dropped the original price right after. regardless, I don't really care what the price is. I feel it's very fair for the amount of time I have already put into it on both xbox one & PC and will continue in the VR version. yes this will be my 3rd purchase of the game and it doesn't bother me.

just don't ask me to buy DLC anymore cause thats a greedy corporate tactic that has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up this industry. perhaps this will as well one day but can't just assume yet.