Every VR Game should just use a gamepad, i absolutely hate using my occlus touch or vive controllers

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gaming standard should always be a gamepad ethier xbox or ps4 controller , i cannot stand games that dont use these and only have motion controls its actually killing the VR market if you release games without gamepad support... alot of love fallout series , i do wish they put in the option like skyrim VR had with gamepad support

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PS i hate using my touch controllers for any VR game this isnt just for fallout i believe the motion controls are actually killing the VR market

[LemonyNebula]

Not every VR Game works well or even works without motion controls.

Personally I believe if it uses a controller, its not true VR. I value VR games that can be played sitting with a controller differently to those that use full roomscale movement. After all, physically moving is certianly closer to reality than using a controller to move yourself.

One is full roomscale, the other is closer to a camera change (albeit a good one)

Although I am not saying I wouldn't appreciate those games that should work with a controller to have more options.

[MowTin]

I agree the option should be there for people who want it. But I love pointing my gun to aim instead of a mouse or thumbstick. I love swinging my arms to smash a raiders head with my super sledgehammer instead of pressing a button. I like raising my hands to block an attack.

Maybe what you want is to play seated with full motion controls that allow you to smoothly rotate.

[Shameless]

yeah i do just saying i perfer using a gamepad in all vr games not just fallout i think its bad option game devs are mostly focusing on touch controllers , i also play fallout 4 with my occlus touch and i am used to playing with the occlus touch now but its really annoying not annoying enough to make me want to buy a vive though, i just beleve the devs in vr are going down the wrong road with touch controllers there are a fad, gamepads have been here for generations and work well

[LemonyNebula]

Well I wouldn't pretend to speak for 'most' gamers, but I certainly am one who enjoys aiming their guns, taking cover behind objects and having freedom beyond animation and control limits.

To me they are easy controls to master.

However I can see many people taking a lazier/relaxed route and sitting down with a controller and still wanting to enjoy the full 360 camera, but as I said, it is not really VR to me at that point.

There will be cheaper headsets with little to no motion control or sensor reliance, along the lines of how mobile VR does it, specifically for them so the audience exists. Games that can work as seated experiences should give an option. But there are a lot of VR actions and experiences that cannot be replicated well with a controller.

Should be called SVR for 'seated' or 'semi'

Not that they arnt good in their own right. I love elite dangerous with my HOTAS for example.

[Shameless]

not really a lazy route lol for generations we have been using gamepads, specially people that play long periods of time like myself, no reason you cannot use full 360 with a gamepad lol , i play elite dangeorus as well in 360 sitting down with a gamepad, they are easy controls to master thats not the point

[LemonyNebula]

Well for generations we never really had much choice. Nothing before this had the tracking capability for natural movement.

But no I used the terms lazier and relaxed to describe a less active control scheme rather than a trait. You don't have to be lazy to want to use a controller.

But VR doesn't need to erase or beat vanilla gaming or anything inbetween anyway. It's simply a different way to play. If your way is to use the HMD but not the controllers then that is your choice. As I said, for games that can use a controller, I think they should have the option for you. But not every game can do that. And it certainly is not killing VR.

[Shameless]

well we all have our own opions ;) with that said i am still enjoying fallout vr with my occlus rift!

[LemonyNebula]

Indeed we do, happy to hear you're still enjoying it.

[Bob]

The controller option should be there for sure.

I don't assume that everyone in my household likes strawberry yogurt just because it is my personal favourite, thats why I buy the assorted pack (variety), that way everyone has a choice

If a game is playable with a controller add the option, FO4 VR is easily playable with a joypad or K/M.

Originally posted by LemonyNebula:

Not every VR Game works well or even works without motion controls.
Personally I believe if it uses a controller, its not true VR

Some of my best VR experiences have been in driving simulators, VR should not be limited to any one control method, but should have (use) as many control options as possible to reach the widest audience possible, using a wheel in VR is obviously more immersive than any tracked controller, the experience for Players who use VR not as a game but as a simulation is as VR as it gets, they would obviously disagree with your reasoning. I would also add that Elite Dangerous is best played with a HOTAS which is more immersive and is one of the most popular VR games on PC.

VR is not one dimensional, restricting yourself by holding a narrow minded belief that VR is only VR when using roomscale or tracked controllers is outdated and frankly quite ludicrous. VR should be for everyone and everyone has their own idea of what they want and that is choice.

I'm not trying to be confrontational either , I'm just pointing out a fact, VR is not just about roomscale or tracked controllers or FPS shooters , I was simply pointing out your obviously speaking from your own perspective and that's fine (but wrong) Lol :P

VR must appeal to everybody, therefor I would disagree with your statement about not being VR unless its with the wands.

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totally agree ! absolutely right

[Mr Stillwell]

The same kinnd of people who hated the wii are now loving flailing their arms around to do things in games. It used to be unbareable to them, but now it's really cool! It's because you look so cool with those headsets on, I think. Yeah, that must be the difference, it's just so much cooler!

VR ....

[kinnikunky]

Do you prefer to aim with your head?

[狂野西北狼]

I think VIVE's controller is great, and I can't accept your point of view.

[Shameless]

havemt tried vive lol but why would i want to change what works