The truth about VHS and the would be rewinders

[Gremlin5]

Finally a VHS player speaking truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFGPQy1qA-I

[ZE no-morph]

i just watch it , good to know he is not a sell out

[Spookynekogirl.TTV]

Space Coconut wasn't the first. There's others, namely ogichigame who made a couple critical videos and got banned from the community awhile ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkjwN2JwiEY

[Corrsk]

That's a lot of imaginary scenarios being brought up.

He might be right (or not, who know). But you don't need to "maybe it's because" "Those peoples probably" to make a point. You just make stuff up to prove a point you think is right.

[Stood]

Great video, thank you for sharing it.

[Wulfos]

Originally posted by Corrsk:

That's a lot of imaginary scenarios being brought up.

He might be right (or not, who know). But you don't need to "maybe it's because" "Those peoples probably" to make a point. You just make stuff up to prove a point you think is right.

Unless its happening right to you everything is basicaly just imaginary scenario... that doesnt mean its not a valid reason to think about that imaginary scenario.... besides do you really believe that people leaving this game is imaginary scenario ? 100% the leading case is monster is unfun so it makes long que. 100% its not imaginary its REAL.

[Bakedcity]

amazing video ty

[Zombi Teh Death]

Originally posted by Spookynekogirl.TTV:

Space Coconut wasn't the first. There's others, namely ogichigame who made a couple critical videos and got banned from the community awhile ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkjwN2JwiEY

this guy doesn't know what he's talking about as he has made a lot of mistake in this vid imho.

he get wart cooldown wrong (worse one is echo being a minute) he then contradict himself by also saying acid armour is a minute when previously said it was 40 seconds (he also down play it duration which is 12 seconds).

he say a number of weapon are one hit kill when only 2 are (the eye and the shocksphere).

he also say the slow and cc are not needed (which is obviously false and give me he has zero understanding on where they are there in the first place).

he then say that the kill a teen you need to hit them 8 time which is false as it its 5 hit and then compare it to the monster stigma which is very different as you need to damage the monster for 2 second to take it out instead of it being instant (except for the eye and the shocksphere)

[Wulfos]

Originally posted by Zombi teh death:

Originally posted by Spookynekogirl.TTV:

Space Coconut wasn't the first. There's others, namely ogichigame who made a couple critical videos and got banned from the community awhile ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkjwN2JwiEY

this guy doesn't know what he's talking about as he has made a lot of mistake in this vid imho.

he get wart cooldown wrong (worse one is echo being a minute) he then contradict himself by also saying acid armour is a minute when previously said it was 40 seconds (he also down play it duration which is 12 seconds).

he say a number of weapon are one hit kill when only 2 are (the eye and the shocksphere).

he also say the slow and cc are not needed (which is obviously false and give me he has zero understanding on where they are there in the first place).

he then say that the kill a teen you need to hit them 8 time which is false as it its 5 hit and then compare it to the monster stigma which is very different as you need to damage the monster for 2 second to take it out instead of it being instant (except for the eye and the shocksphere)

ITs really cute that you dont count slingshot and molot as one hit weapons.

[croggle]

They are always saying they want feedback from the community but as soon as that feedback comes from someone with a platform they get exiled and blacklisted by the devs. It is an absolutely disgusting practice I honestly hope the downtrend in players continues devs like this don't deserve a community or active game.

[Buried in insanity]

Originally posted by Gremlin:

Finally a VHS player speaking truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFGPQy1qA-I

ngl hes right in so many situations sadly.

[Zombi Teh Death]

Originally posted by Wulfos:

Originally posted by Zombi teh death:

this guy doesn't know what he's talking about as he has made a lot of mistake in this vid imho.

he get wart cooldown wrong (worse one is echo being a minute) he then contradict himself by also saying acid armour is a minute when previously said it was 40 seconds (he also down play it duration which is 12 seconds).

he say a number of weapon are one hit kill when only 2 are (the eye and the shocksphere).

he also say the slow and cc are not needed (which is obviously false and give me he has zero understanding on where they are there in the first place).

he then say that the kill a teen you need to hit them 8 time which is false as it its 5 hit and then compare it to the monster stigma which is very different as you need to damage the monster for 2 second to take it out instead of it being instant (except for the eye and the shocksphere)

ITs really cute that you dont count slingshot and molot as one hit weapons.

i don't consider them as one hit as they take 2 seconds like the rest and the monster can get out of them if they hit anywhere but the monster which stick onto the them if they do hit them. unless they instantly kill the monster then i will consider them one hit

[PsionicDiamond]

Originally posted by Spookynekogirl.TTV:

Space Coconut wasn't the first. There's others, namely ogichigame who made a couple critical videos and got banned from the community awhile ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkjwN2JwiEY

That guys video is terrible. I can’t take it seriously… at all.

Also a lot of his comments just simply isn’t true. He’s speaking as someone who played a few rounds in game and has no idea what he’s talking about.

[Corrsk]

Originally posted by Wulfos:

Unless its happening right to you everything is basicaly just imaginary scenario...

Uh... No?

Originally posted by Wulfos:

besides do you really believe that people leaving this game is imaginary scenario ?

Uh... No?²
I never pointed to peoples leaving being an imaginary scenario. That's even quantifiable (It's even in the video).
But thanks for making a good example of what is an actual imaginary scenario (ea: Saying i deny that peoples leave).

"That's the question! Are they not forcing anyone?" "I've heard from third parties." "Lots of peoples" "That's the consensus i get" "My ability to speak the truth"
All of this. No. I'll pass on the made-up enemies and extrapolation of numbers of peoples saying "things", and imaginary scenario. Even if he have good questions and points outside of those (Mostly on the second half).

And as i said, he might be right, but he present it out wrong. He make a theory, and present it like a truth (He even say so). I mean, look at the title of this thread. It already got one guy to present it as "The truth" too and not just one guy on the internet giving an opinion with no proof, no research (Outside of "third parties" and "friends"), or anything.
This is just a guy giving a (probably honest) opinion on Stream. Not "the Truth".

I know the book. I've read it a few time, and i've worked with it.
No thanks. If you want to criticise, that's not how. You'll just sound like someone irrationally angry who want to sell something to an already faithful public who just waited for "the word of reason".

[Wulfos]

Originally posted by Corrsk:

Originally posted by Wulfos:

Unless its happening right to you everything is basicaly just imaginary scenario...

Uh... No?

Originally posted by Wulfos:

besides do you really believe that people leaving this game is imaginary scenario ?

Uh... No?²
I never pointed to peoples leaving being an imaginary scenario. That's even quantifiable (It's even in the video).
But thanks for making a good example of what is an actual imaginary scenario (ea: Saying i deny that peoples leave).

"That's the question! Are they not forcing anyone?" "I've heard from third parties." "Lots of peoples" "That's the consensus i get" "My ability to speak the truth"
All of this. No. I'll pass on the made-up enemies and extrapolation of numbers of peoples saying "things", and imaginary scenario. Even if he have good questions and points outside of those (Mostly on the second half).

And as i said, he might be right, but he present it out wrong. He make a theory, and present it like a truth (He even say so). I mean, look at the title of this thread. It already got one guy to present it as "The truth" too and not just one guy on the internet giving an opinion with no proof, no research (Outside of "third parties" and "friends"), or anything.
This is just a guy giving a (probably honest) opinion on Stream. Not "the Truth".

I know the book. I've read it a few time, and i've worked with it.
No thanks. If you want to criticise, that's not how. You'll just sound like someone irrationally angry who want to sell something to an already faithful public who just waited for "the word of reason".

You literaly proclaimed that he is doing alot of imaginary scenario thinking... even tho he specificaly said alot of things that literaly make people leave etc... and you said about all those that those are imaginary... so yeah.... you can try to bend your narrative now and act cool or w/e else you want to spin it like but you are exactly what is the main problem with the vhs. There is a problem, dont ignore the problem and dont act as victim when called upon your bs.

Have a nice day and honestly troll in a more mild way so its not spottable so easily.

[Hurricane]

Oh, I had not heard about Space Coconut since he stopped playing DbD.
He was usually on point on that game, and some of his critiques about the bad habits of the devs are still true today.

I'm not surprised to hear the VHS devs were upset at some of his critiques, alas. It aligns perfectly with previous observations made months ago on the discord before I went back to DbD. (I'm still keeping tabs on VHS in the event something good finally happens.)