Kill everybody except civilians badge

[Tobsa]

I'm trying the Kill everybody except civilians badge on Misson 4 - Until Death Do Us Part (Higgins Estate).
Even though I've cleared every enemy from the map the badge doesn't seem to trigger.
Am I missing something or is this a bug?

[sleepy]

This glitched out for me too on my first attempt, I just restarted and tried to do the following:

1) Make sure you dont knock anyone out, ever
2) Do not set off any alarms to avoid putting more guards on the map (I think this might be what glitched it for me)
3) To kill the long coats, you clear the map first, then quickly gattle gun down the longcoats before they can set off the alarm

After that, I got the badge on mission completion

Edit: other posts have said you may need to clear everyone in the first part (with just Cooper) and then kill everyone again when you have Cooper + Kate

[Allien]

It's pretty impossible not to ring the alarm... without knocking some of them down, and that guard with the 3 ladies?

[Tobsa]

Yeah, I've just replayed the mission and managed to kill everybody except for that guard with the 3 ladies. And to the left of them that guard with the civilian standing next to him.

I can't see anyway to handle these without either knocking them out or raise the alarm.

[Tobsa]

Originally posted by Sleepy:

Edit: other posts have said you may need to clear everyone in the first part (with just Cooper) and then kill everyone again when you have Cooper + Kate

Now I've got the badge! I think the problem was that I didn't clear everybody in the first part.

[Allien]

Makes no sense at all... cause i'm in this part for 2 days... cleared up even with the kate in a dress yesterday

[Allien]

I'm actually streaming right now and trying to get that badge since yesterday... I have in VOD me clearing everyone in the first part... with kate only...

[Wormerine]

Originally posted by HULK:

It's pretty impossible not to ring the alarm... without knocking some of them down, and that guard with the 3 ladies?

Some of the enemies from "Cooper" section don't reappear later on when you are joined by Kate. So you have to clear the map first with Cooper (you don't need to touch long coats, nor people outside the gate) and then with Kate.

The guy guarding 3 ladies is tricky, but I used a tied body trick for that. Either knock and tie a civilian or an enemy (if you do that with enemy you have to remember to kill him later) and put the tied person on the left side north from bushes (just make sure he won't disappear in bushes especially if its enemy or it won't count as kill!) When the guard is by the left lady get his attention with the coin and he will walk toward the body (noticed tied characters won't raise the alarm). Kill him and use Kate to perfum the ladies so they won't see anything.

Starting an alarm shouldn't break the badge, but you will have more enemies to kill.

[Allien]

Originally posted by Wormerine:

Originally posted by HULK:

It's pretty impossible not to ring the alarm... without knocking some of them down, and that guard with the 3 ladies?

Some of the enemies from "Cooper" section don't reappear later on when you are joined by Kate. So you have to clear the map first with Cooper (you don't need to touch long coats, nor people outside the gate) and then with Kate.

The guy guarding 3 ladies is tricky, but I used a tied body trick for that. Either knock and tie a civilian or an enemy (if you do that with enemy you have to remember to kill him later) and put the tied person on the left side north from bushes (just make sure he won't disappear in bushes especially if its enemy or it won't count as kill!) When the guard is by the left lady get his attention with the coin and he will walk toward the body (noticed tied characters won't raise the alarm). Kill him and use Kate to perfum the ladies so they won't see anything.

Starting an alarm shouldn't break the badge, but you will have more enemies to kill.

Yes, but something is really glitching on this badge... cause as I told, I already did kill EVERYONE in the 3 parts, including the alarm ones... and yet it tells I'm missing some...
Now I tried Sleepy's way. and missed 13... got 64/77

[Allien]

I'm streaming right know, but I'll be moving on to the next mission, until I see something about this... some glitch saying "Do not kill this guy" or "kill this after that one" cause it seens to be random who got the badge...

[Wormerine]

Originally posted by Allien:

Yes, but something is really glitching on this badge... cause as I told, I already did kill EVERYONE in the 3 parts,

Curious. Perhaps guards from guardhouses mess thing up? DId you manage to finish it with no alarm? I think 64 was a right number, though I can't quite rember the exact number. When I killed everyone in just later part I was constantly 11 guards short.

When I got the badge I played on normal. It worked for me, but it seems many people have issues with this one.

[Allien]

I did save, before ending without the alarm and I missed some, then load and when I kill (5 guards of a guardhouse) the final count sumed up 5 but the kill count only 3...

[Nettingman]

Originally posted by Allien:

I did save, before ending without the alarm and I missed some, then load and when I kill (5 guards of a guardhouse) the final count sumed up 5 but the kill count only 3...

It's probably because there were 5 guards in guardhouse, but only 3 came out.

However, it's still buggy. I killed every single enemy on the map, and even triggered some guardhouse to check if they were the missing ones, but it didn't work. (Max count, and killed count both went up with 3.)

I did the following on Desperados difficulty:
1. Killed everyone I could with Kate, by dropping them of ledges.
2. Killed the rest of the enemies with Cooper in the "only-Cooper" part (except guardhouses, which I didn't trigger).
3. Killed everyone during the last phase. I even triggered an additional guard house by dragging a civilian to a zone and waiting until she woke up and discovered a body. It didn't help, max and killed count both went up by 3.

Should I kill everyone with Kate only, or what?
Someone, please find a solution, this is frustrating as hell. I did this map for like 3 times now.

[Tobsa]

The following worked for me:
Kill no one at the Kate only part. Kill all with Cooper (except the guard next to the 3 ladies, and the guard with a civilian in the area with the disguise). Then kill all with Kate and Cooper. Didn't trigger the alarm except when using the gattling gun to take out the long coats.

[Wormerine]

Originally posted by Rexali_:

i didnt try the badge , but personally when i throw knife withh cooper , then i will punch and rope them . . . . i dont know if this is effective on badge or not . . .

Kill means kill. So if you do that you will have to pick up the knife and stab the tied up soul.

[AlvinGT]

Finally. After enough trying myself. Found this thread.
* The key is to kill EVERYONE (except civilian) when Cooper's part, then save Kate, then kill everyone (except civilian) again.
* Triggering alarm is fine. I triggered alarm killing 2 long coats with gatling. Pop up 5 guards and killed them also.
* Tying someone first then killing them after also fine.
* My trick with 1 guard 4 civilian is to use Kate to talk with guard, then lure 2 of civilians with tied guard (to get near), then knock both out. Finish the rest with throwing knife and Kate knocking other out.
* Played on Beginner level (usually play on hard, but just want a breeze), its 69/69 enemies killed.