WORST WARRIORS GAME EVER

[Grim Revan]

Obviously an opinion. I played this on PS4 well over a year ago and hated how your allies were constantly in danger and failing to save them was a game over. Not even 30 seconds in and your are racing to avoid losing. Maybe I missed some feature of the game back then that was causing this to happen, but it really got annoying how they were a major handicap and of no help. I felt like I was playing Lemmings and constantly reminding my allies that the pointy edge of a sword does not belong at their throats.

Now if you read this and thought, "This moron has no idea that all you have to do is _______!", then please enlighten my ignorant ass on what I missed. I am a fan of various Warriors games with some of my favorites being Hyrule Warriors, Strikeforce, and the Gundam Warriors series. I am still holding my breath that they will team up with NIS to make a Disgaea Warriors with all of the item world and reincarnation insanity someday.

Please keep any insults in this thread funny, witty, or fu%$ing hilarious. We all could use a good laugh.

[Oaks]

At first my trouble was I wasn't clear on what was happening. You are often getting new mission objectives, reading dialog and watching the minimap while kicking ass. The map wasn't exactly clear at what was required of me at times.

After failing a couple missions though it all clicked and now for the most part makes sense and I am having a great time.

If i could figure it out, you can too.

[Josef]

I got this game a couple of days ago and I'm enjoying it, I just wish seeing side quests during a mission wasn't a pain in the ass..... having played WO4U on ps4, recently, I wish they had that system where u can see ur side quests on screen... oh well.

Allies do seem to die quicker than in other musou games though, which is annoying

[D-Black Catto]

I can't believe someone is actually complaining that warriors game is too hard, usually people complain its too easy

you sir are exceptional

[Grim Revan]

Originally posted by Kuro Neko:

I can't believe someone is actually complaining that warriors game is too hard, usually people complain its too easy

you sir are exceptional

I did not say it was difficult, but I don't care for the failure option of any ally dying. Now to be fare I probably made it only about 10% of the game before I stopped. It just wasn't fun for me. In many Musou Warriors style games there will be important targets that will fail a mission if they are downed, but not any of them. People that complain that these games are easy also never increase the difficulty. I think Crimson Sea stood out as one of their few games where they used swarm mobs and strong mobs as to not have 30+ targets just watching you cut them down. I also haven't played that in over 15 years, so that may not be accurate.

[D-Black Catto]

Originally posted by Grim Revan:

Originally posted by Kuro Neko:

I can't believe someone is actually complaining that warriors game is too hard, usually people complain its too easy

you sir are exceptional

I did not say it was difficult, but I don't care for the failure option of any ally dying. Now to be fare I probably made it only about 10% of the game before I stopped. It just wasn't fun for me. In many Musou Warriors style games there will be important targets that will fail a mission if they are downed, but not any of them. People that complain that these games are easy also never increase the difficulty. I think Crimson Sea stood out as one of their few games where they used swarm mobs and strong mobs as to not have 30+ targets just watching you cut them down. I also haven't played that in over 15 years, so that may not be accurate.

I see, so you are one of these people who come back to the game franchise after many years and surprised its not the same as what you remember.

You'd love baldurs gate 3 discussion forums.

[Oaks]

Originally posted by Josef217:

I got this game a couple of days ago and I'm enjoying it, I just wish seeing side quests during a mission wasn't a pain in the ass..... having played WO4U on ps4, recently, I wish they had that system where u can see ur side quests on screen... oh well.

Allies do seem to die quicker than in other musou games though, which is annoying

Probably you already know, but you can see all the side quests from the pause screen.

[Josef]

Originally posted by oaks2nin:

Originally posted by Josef217:

I got this game a couple of days ago and I'm enjoying it, I just wish seeing side quests during a mission wasn't a pain in the ass..... having played WO4U on ps4, recently, I wish they had that system where u can see ur side quests on screen... oh well.

Allies do seem to die quicker than in other musou games though, which is annoying

Probably you already know, but you can see all the side quests from the pause screen.

yeah, but u have to go through a couple of button presses and stuff, its kinda tedious lol. Its mostly a nitpick after having WO4U's perspective, sure this game came before WO4, but still lol

[D-Black Catto]

Originally posted by Josef217:

Originally posted by oaks2nin:

Probably you already know, but you can see all the side quests from the pause screen.

yeah, but u have to go through a couple of button presses and stuff, its kinda tedious lol. Its mostly a nitpick after having WO4U's perspective, sure this game came before WO4, but still lol

Except quests here can last of several battles, wo4 or wo4u has no quests like this game, only battle objectives

Which here are dynamicand randomized, and change as battle progress, which alone is a massive step up from pretty much every other warriors game on steam

[Grim Revan]

Originally posted by Kuro Neko:

Originally posted by Grim Revan:

I did not say it was difficult, but I don't care for the failure option of any ally dying. Now to be fare I probably made it only about 10% of the game before I stopped. It just wasn't fun for me. In many Musou Warriors style games there will be important targets that will fail a mission if they are downed, but not any of them. People that complain that these games are easy also never increase the difficulty. I think Crimson Sea stood out as one of their few games where they used swarm mobs and strong mobs as to not have 30+ targets just watching you cut them down. I also haven't played that in over 15 years, so that may not be accurate.

I see, so you are one of these people who come back to the game franchise after many years and surprised its not the same as what you remember.

You'd love baldurs gate 3 discussion forums.

I am starting to think you are not comprehending my words. I have literally 1 issue with the game in it's design. If a franchise stayed identical it would be pointless to play future games. I hadn't played Crimson Sea in 15 years.....not a Musou Warriors game in 15 years. Maybe read responses more than once? lol

[Oaks]

Originally posted by Kuro Neko:

Originally posted by Josef217:

yeah, but u have to go through a couple of button presses and stuff, its kinda tedious lol. Its mostly a nitpick after having WO4U's perspective, sure this game came before WO4, but still lol

Except quests here can last of several battles, wo4 or wo4u has no quests like this game, only battle objectives

Which here are dynamicand randomized, and change as battle progress, which alone is a massive step up from pretty much every other warriors game on steam

Did not realize they were randomized. Interesting!

[D-Black Catto]

Originally posted by oaks2nin:

Originally posted by Kuro Neko:

Except quests here can last of several battles, wo4 or wo4u has no quests like this game, only battle objectives

Which here are dynamicand randomized, and change as battle progress, which alone is a massive step up from pretty much every other warriors game on steam

Did not realize they were randomized. Interesting!

ye only major plot related objectives are set in stone, all the others like "kill transport unit" or "take that base!" are random you will see it if you start failing missions and redoing them

Originally posted by Grim Revan:

Originally posted by Kuro Neko:

I see, so you are one of these people who come back to the game franchise after many years and surprised its not the same as what you remember.

You'd love baldurs gate 3 discussion forums.

I am starting to think you are not comprehending my words. I have literally 1 issue with the game in it's design. If a franchise stayed identical it would be pointless to play future games. I hadn't played Crimson Sea in 15 years.....not a Musou Warriors game in 15 years. Maybe read responses more than once? lol

you only have one issue and thats enoguh to call it worst warriors game ever?

and your issue is non existent because losing just one officer does not lose you battle unless their survival is an objective, I just had a battle where I failed to save 2 sword officers in trouble and I won the battle anyway since the only condition was to protect Setsuna

you must have misunderstood something

[Grim Revan]

Back on PS4 it was any of the allied officers, not a specific one. I thought it was irritating because they would all be in danger one after another. I stated this in my 1st two sentences, so if that changed or was just a thing in the early game then maybe i should revisit the game. Like I said, I don't feel that you are reading what you are responding to. So yeah, if in every mission a failure option is if any ally is downed I would say that would make this the worst game of it's kind. Now if that is not currently a thing you could have just stated that.

I bought the game on disc and just checked my shelf and don't see it there. Maybe I gave it away. I'll have to see if my son was using it. I have played damn near every Musou game and it was the only one that I ever had that condition on. I stopped playing it because I was tired of constantly running around saving everyone until no enemies were left to run the objective. It was near launch and I was hyped to play it. I don't stop playing musou games until I have played them out with the exception of some of the ones I have repurchased on Steam after having played them before.

that said I will look for my copy on PS4 and see if I can find what I was talking about. I may have lent it out to a friend. I do remember having Alchemist Sophia. I'm watching some gameplay videos of early play throughs and I am not seeing what I was talking about currently.

I originally posted this hoping it wasn't the way I remembered. If I can't find my PS4 copy I will just buy it on Steam. I am starting to wonder if I just had turned the difficulty up as high as possible, but that is something I could have altered. Maybe I am not remembering what killed it for me correctly and now I am wondering what made me stop playing it.

[Grim Revan]

Maybe when it goes back on sale. lol

[D-Black Catto]

Originally posted by Grim Revan:

Maybe when it goes back on sale. lol

yeah, at any rate, you can lose officers and you can lose bases and actually you will a lot as AI is quite competent and aggressive here

[Algester]

as far as I know its only the part with Monster Nest missions thats a total pain Race against time mission in the game, other than the hard to murder giant enemies even at morale 10. as for the remaining optional objectives THEY ARE OPTIONAL AS THEY ARE RNG based