Low reincarnation levels

[hella jeff]

I just unlocked R5 and I'm wondering what the best way is to grind up some gems.
In the last few reincarnations I've just started out running elves until I have around 15B gems, then I switch to Titans until around 1Qa gems, then I go Goblins+Drow until I can get mercs (I've been using the Diamond Forge build from the wiki).

Is there a better way anyone could recommend for the low-gems period until you have enough to run mercs?

[Necrodoom]

Elves to titans to druids to elf/dwarf or fairy/dwarf (if first fairy challenge is done

R7 will give you new powers to skip a lot of early game setup thankfully.

[hella jeff]

"R7 will give you new powers to skip a lot of early game setup thankfully"
Thank god for that.

[mikeydsc]

Titans are better than druids - I couldnt get anywhere with low level druids at all. To me they are broken at low levels. In the low R30s they seem to be better.

[Mr.Hmm]

I am at R0 currently at 473.7Qa but if i abdicate i will gain 15.43Qi gems. Of-course i started 7days ago.

I have been using Titans till 1 Qa gems then switched to undead and left them for 2 days and bam 15.43Qi Gems if i abdicate.

My goal is to try and reach 20-25Qi Gems first before i abdicate.

So per my personal experience i find the Undead(offline) one of the best to grind gems. My Offline production is 4.237M% Coins.

Of-course i am just starting out so i dont know anything past R0.

[Necrodoom]

Undead suck for production. Druids are confirmed to work fine, just needs faction coins.

[Mr.Hmm]

Originally posted by Necrodoom:

Undead suck for production. Druids are confirmed to work fine, just needs faction coins.

I guess undead might suck for production at higher R but i find them really strong at R0.

[Necrodoom]

Originally posted by Mr.Hmm:

Originally posted by Necrodoom:

Undead suck for production. Druids are confirmed to work fine, just needs faction coins.

I guess undead might suck for production at higher R but i find them really strong at R0.

Thats because you literally tried nothing else. A normal titan or druid run gets more than that in s few minutes.

Undead is not called worst faction for no reason.

[Tetsuri]

well, you don't get neutrals at R0 tho

[Necrodoom]

Yes you do.

[Tetsuri]

o k, butttttttt... you still need to be able to excavate coins for neutral faction or you'll never be able to get upgrades

[Necrodoom]

You could also wait a bit to get the faction coins instead of excavating since titans get lighting strike for free mass faction coins and druids get a small faction coin boost. Still far less time than trying for production with vanilla factions.

[mikeydsc]

@Packor - I suggest trying to abdicate as soon as you can. The low level vanilla stuff is a slight grind. The game really opens up once you get to the merc faction and beyond.

Elfs>Demons>fairies>goblins>angels>undead = vanilla factions
Titans>faceless>druids = nuetrals
This is only my opinion - others may have a slight different ranking.

[Necrodoom]

Faceless sucks in R0. Druids are strongest but lack FC gen.

[PseudonymousBosh]

The relative strengths of even the vanilla factions will depend on gem total, and other variable factors. There isn't a single consistent order.

[VampireKitten]

There *is* a consistent order though: Elves are the best vanilla until e36 gems(until mercs, basically), and fairies are best vanilla after that. Angels are either pointless now or only good at the very end of R38-39. And that is consistent through ALL of A0.