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Getting past 4e70 gems Help
I'm at R15 with 4e70 gems. I have no book artifact, or any of the dawnstone artifacts either. I have no excavations with which to get them either.

I'm using the Lightning Forge Merc atm, and I can't breach past 25% of my current gems with each cast, which is decreasing ofcourse with every cast.
That's only on blacksmith casts too with every spell being used.

I have no idea how I'm going to breach 1e72 honestly.

EDIT: Even with a production scry bonus, what even is the strategy here? Do I really need ot get a frigging artifact JUST to get past this painfully small threshold?

I thought the optimized Gem grinding guide on kongregate was... you know... OPTIMIZED and Updated.
Last edited by Slimurgical (Stormy); Jul 16, 2017 @ 1:46pm
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Snow Jul 16, 2017 @ 2:01pm 
The dawn and dusk stone is easy achievable it says the chances are 1/10,000 excavations but ive got them in like 10-20 in R:0 or R:1 (if i remmeber correctly) so maybe you can try to get them?

I dont know how much more powerfull is R15 than R:4 (i;m currently here), but i'm at 2e54 gems and i can reach higher with no prob so maybe you lack some important trophies?
Maybe I do, but tbh, I've gotten like... 1560 Excavations and don't have 'em.
IN R14 you get a super powerful spell based on number of reincarnations, and also Reincarnation power has a couple more effects and is way more buffed by 11 more reincarnations at my point.

The requirement for R16 is 1e72, so yeah.

I dunno, it's an absolutely painful moment right now to get even as many gems as I have atm. Takes like 4-6 spell combos.
Nico Jul 16, 2017 @ 2:38pm 
Ok, since you are complaining about the very easy to get book artifact(10% chance with upgrades of 11 different factions), here is the advice wich you would have gotten before it got released:
To complete R15 you have to use the IGOT build. This build will need some time, usually several days but will bring you from e69 to e72 gems.
Well it's not easy to get because A. I can't do anymore excavations. B. 1 in 10,000 isn't "Easy" especially if you excavate while as the wrong faction, since I didn't know about it.
C. I think I'll try to just keep going as-is for now, maybe I'm being a tiny bit too impatient. If after a day I'm not there, I'll do that then. ^_^
Nico Jul 16, 2017 @ 4:00pm 
Just as a small hint: 10% is more like 1 in 10, not 10k.. And it's not like it's my fault that you increased your excavatin count that high. OR that you didn't tried to get it in the last few Reincarnations. I mean obviously you already knew that the book exists but you didn't bothered to try to find out how to get it.
RogueFireWolf Jul 17, 2017 @ 4:45am 
He was referring to the Dawnstone/Duskstone, Nico, with the find chance.
Insanoflex Jul 17, 2017 @ 7:07am 
Despite the R12-R13 label, this works in R15 for getting Know Your Enemy (the book artifact) with buried excavation totals. But 1560 excavations is a high total to overcome.

http://www.kongregate.com/forums/8945-realm-grinder/topics/723878-fast-harlequin-build-for-r13?page=1#posts-11116758

Harlequin Tricaster R12-R13
Buy 1500/1750/2000 Farm, Slave Pen, and Orcish Arena upgrades at the same time to avoid Grand Balance targeting the wrong building. edit: Exclude Blood Frenzy from the spell combo as it doesn't affect Farms.

Alignment: Evil
Bloodline: Elf

FR9,EL7,AN5,GB1,UD7,DM3,TT6,DD1,FC6,DN3,DN7,DW5,SP:Fairy Chanting,SP:Grand Balance

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With neither Mana Waste nor Know Your Enemy Part I, I'd suggest a max building run followed by Addiction grower build:

Everything is Awesome from Wiki Merc Builds
Alignment: Evil
Bloodline: Goblin

note: I changed Hellfire Blast to Goblin's Greed for faction coins without excavating.

FR1,FR2,UD7,DM6,DM8,TT3,TT6,DD9,FC6,DN2,DN7,DW5,SP:Goblin's Greed,SP:Night Time

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You'd have to figure out Angel autocast for Addiction yourself if you go that way. Titan is fine and it can grow offline, but buildup will be slower than online tax collection autocast.

Addiction from Wiki Merc Builds (obselete,etc.)
Alignment: Good
Bloodline: Angel, Titan

Leave out the last 2 blacksmith upgrades. Buy 1500 to 1749 blacksmiths and buy all upgrades. Then you can buy more blacksmiths but don’t buy the remaining blacksmith upgrades (don't click buy all after getting 1750+ Blacksmiths.)

Buildup: Autocast Tax Collection, no other spells.

FR8,EL5,AN2,GB1,TT6,DD1,DD9,FC6,DN3,DN7,DN8,DW4,SP:Fairy Chanting,SP:Grand Balance

edit: At least 5 hours of buildup or it can complete reincarnation with one longer run.

Fairy Addicts is a slower growth build that can't be screwed up by buying Noble Metals (the 1750 Blacksmith upgrade). Buy all buildings and upgrades.

Linked from Addiction on the Wiki:
http://www.kongregate.com/forums/8945-realm-grinder/topics/546445

Fairy Addicts
Alignment: Good
Bloodline: Fairy

Buildup: 1. Combo Strike 2. Tax Collection

FR4,AN2,GB1,TT6,DD1,DD9,FC6,DN3,DN7,DN8,DW4,DW9,SP:Fairy Chanting,SP:Combo Strike
Last edited by Insanoflex; Jul 17, 2017 @ 8:14am
alveolate Jul 17, 2017 @ 7:04pm 
i'm stuck at the exact same spot! just wanted to say so :)

been trying out a bunch of different merc builds from the wiki. most of them aren't as good as they seem tho.

the wiki and kong forum seems to just recommend using Lightning Forge, which sorta does work, but it's a pain having to abdicate repeatedly AND wait for RNG to strike blacksmiths. it's supposed to be a "rush" build, but it is (supposedly) still powerful enough to get to e72 - just takes many abdications. this becomes a problem if you've used up your excavations tho, then it becomes a chore waiting for enough upgraded TCs to get FCs for each setup.

btw, the reason e69 onwards is a major wall is because there's this huge gap in buildings upgrades at around e150 ~ e166 gold. just a minor explainer/spoiler for those who aren't caught up yet.

for now, i'm gonna try one of the longer builds just to get a sense of their effectiveness. i'm also really tempted to make my own build, but it seems really tedious having to study all the upgrades and doing a spreadsheet to compare their effectiveness with existing builds... so maybe later xD
Nico Jul 17, 2017 @ 7:57pm 
Yeah, I also hated the hours of just using LF to get to w72 gems, wich is why I decided to do just a IGOT run, and I was very surprised by its amazing strength. It maybe needed a few days, and with just using LF I would have done it in some hours or so, but I really liked the non RNG idle run instead of this very active RNG runs, especially since this was before they implemented templates.
RogueFireWolf Jul 20, 2017 @ 4:41am 
For the FC problem with LF - buy LS before buying any other upgrade. Cast LS, and you'll have plenty of FC to work with.
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