Undead heritage + challenge 1

[Včelí medvídek]

Hi,

can someone advise how this works as imho the tooltip info must be invalid?

On the wiki is fromula accord which assitant gained from heritage should be about 8 assistants/24 hours. Now the tooltip for challenge say it is 5000% faster (or 50x more) that would be 400 assistants/24 hours which is obviously wrong. Even wiki description says 1000% faster (10x more) which would be 80 assistants/24 hours. This seems be false as well.

In my current undead run with challenge activated and if I hover over heritage it tells me I got thanks that 111 assistants, while I ahve 4d 10h playtime (or 106 hours) - so it seems the gain is about 23 assistants/24 hours. So from this observatuion bonus from challenge seems be roughly 300% to original heritage values.

Even more strange if I turn off challenge, assistants gain from heritage is just 16.. less than half it should be from the formula. (even though in this case 111 is like 7x16 - hence bonsu 700%.. still ntohing even clsoe to 5000%)

Could someone explain this to me and is it same with other tooltip ifnormation in game? As it is really misleading and confusing...

EDIT: Ok, I did mistake to count with 24 hours gain instead full played time in formula. So with 106 hours indeed the gain is only 16 (BTW - so weak ability that is weaker with more playtime instead of opposite that would be expected!) Still I have no Idea where and how the "5000%" bonus is applied..

[Necrodoom]

First off, Wikia is outdated and inaccurate, use Musicfamily which is much more updated

http://musicfamily.org/realm/Challenges/

Second, to understand how its supposed to work you need to start with the undead heritage formula: floor(1 + (x / 3600) ^ 0.5) where x is seconds. Undead challenge 1 speeds the formula up by 5000%, or 51x, changing the formula to floor(1 + (51 * x / 3600) ^ 0.5). If we are to extract the 51 multiplier out of the formula, we would get 7.14x assistants, in addition to the default 1 assistant bonus.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Necrodoom:

First off, Wikia is outdated and inaccurate, use Musicfamily which is much more updated

http://musicfamily.org/realm/Challenges/

Second, to understand how its supposed to work you need to start with the undead heritage formula: floor(1 + (x / 3600) ^ 0.5) where x is seconds. Undead challenge 1 speeds the formula up by 5000%, or 51x, changing the formula to floor(1 + (51 * x / 3600) ^ 0.5). If we are to extract the 51 multiplier out of the formula, we would get 7.14x assistants, in addition to the default 1 assistant bonus.

Oh well, bit clearer but your formula is not valid as well.

With 106 hours it would be floor(1+(51*106)^ 0.5) = 75 while in game I have 111

Would also say that if description says something works 5000% faster it is strange that in truth it is only 7,14x faster as Musicfamily page says... (and well 7,14*16 is 114, not 111 but it seems be almsot correct, maybe some rounding thanks floor function there)

EDIT: even if I take fromula from heritage page it should be floor(1+(50*1,5*106)^ 0.5) = 90....

[Necrodoom]

Forgot about listing the 1.5 *, at 106 hours it would be floor(1 + 1.5 * (51 * 106) ^ 0.5) = 111 assistants.