Demon skill DM6 - Demonic Presence - question

[mikeydsc]

While figuring out some of the wording of these skills, I have a question about this skill.

The skill will add a bonus to the 2 highest tier buildings.

If I am careful and buy my upgrades for all 11 building types at the same time, will the skill apply to all buildings, or will it pick the first 2 that meet the criteria?

I am wanting to shoe horn this into a type of LS blacksmith build if it works for all buildings.

[Nico]

It always will target the same buildings since it is impossible to change the tiers of the buildings. So the Halls of Legends will always stay the highest tier, and the Farms will always stay the lowest tier.
Unless the devs plan to bring new buildings somewhen in the future ofc.

[mikeydsc]

Wait a minute then. I was under impression that the tiers are the upgrades as in as I buy the upgrades it goes up a tier
If not,then its wording is screwy as some skills state it like hitting Evil Forge and HellGate, so why the cryptic wording?

Example I byuy 15 upgrades of farms so I am on tier 15 for farms.

[mikeydsc]

so was sent this so I am wrong on my assumptions https://www.kongregate.com/forums/8945-realm-grinder/topics/721851-define-highest-tier-building

[Nico]

If you bough t 15 farms then you have 15 farms, or you own 15 of this building, whatever. The building tiers are really just what I said, and completly unaffected by anything. This demon upgrade always only targets the Halls of Legends and Hell Portals.
Actually that already shold be in the description of the Demon Alliance, that they focus on improving the higher tiers, so primary Hell Portals and Halls of Legends. I mean they even have an upgrade wich makes Blood Frenzy, wich usually always only targets evil building can also target the HoL's. And the spell upgrade of their faction spell, Hellfire Blast, also has an upgrde wich lets it target the HoL's. With demons it's all about these highest tiers.

Fairies instead focus on the lower tiers, wich measn in this case Farms, Inns and Blacksmiths.

It has nothing to do with any upgrades, the numbers of buildings built or their production.

[mikeydsc]

I have been playing using the wrong assumptions - so should get better from here on.

TY for the assistance.

[Nico]

Origineel geplaatst door mikeydsc:

so was sent this so I am wrong on my assumptions https://www.kongregate.com/forums/8945-realm-grinder/topics/721851-define-highest-tier-building

Yeah, I would say they explained it pretty well. The highest tier is T11, wich are the HoL's and the lowest tier are farms aka T1. and ofc there are always 3 buildings of tier 4-10 since there are 3 alignments.

[mikeydsc]

ie, use Druidic vocab for helping the FIB growth using LS

[Nico]

...wait what? What has LS to do with Druid Vocab? the druid vocab boost is a static boost. It can't be improved further. Or what do you mean? I mean you obviously always want to let LS hit the most productive building, and with Druid vocab...ok, actually I heard that it is an that high boost that it is even worth taking it for aiming on HoL, but I guess that's not important right now, it still gives an way bigger bonus to the lower tiers, like the FIB.
For LS the tier doesn't matter, it always gives the same boost. Only Grand Balance sees a difference there, wich is why stuff like Elven Farms exists.

[mikeydsc]

lightning build using Fairy chant and LS
PS -Im only R6 trying to break e45 to Reincarnate

So worked out this build instead

FR1,FR2,FR4,FR9,AN3,AN5,AN8,TT6,TT7,DD1,DD9,DW4,SP:Lightning Strike,SP:Fairy Chanting

[Nico]

The thing is, LF is not required, and I would say also not reccommended for R6.
The buld is that insanly strong that a LS hit is just an overkill. At this point DF or Elven Farms is a lot faster since you can abdicat a lot quicker. I always started with DF runs until it slowed down and I was forced to start using LF, but I think this wasn't before R11 or R13.

...but when you like the RNG of LS and the waiting for mana and the right hit you can continue like this.

[mikeydsc]

Im not able to use elven farms yet - thats next R

[Nico]

But that's no excuse for not using DF. And what the hell is this weird build in your edited last post? Even with just looking at the first 2 upgrades I know that it is crap. I mean the usual DF/LF/moonshine build always targets ONE building, ok actually every build always tries to focus on ONE building, but you try to focus on Farms and Inns? Why that? That's like wasting an upgrade, since these 2 multipliers won't effect each other, wich means one is wasted. It's basically like an additive bonus. But x200+x200=x400, but x200*x100 is x20000, so it is a real stupid idea to not let the multipliers be multiplicative.

[mikeydsc]

Anyways thanks for the help. I am not using guides or anything cause I like to experiment with different builds.

There are a few skills that the wording is tripping me up and you just clarified my biggest hurdles and now my builds should be better to move along.

So no spoilers please :)

[mikeydsc]

I dont know what DF or LF is so you are losing me. Just learning the game and dont know all th ejargon yet.

PS - As I move forward Iwll learn the math behind it, so thanks again.

NO spoilers please

[Nico]

LF is Lightning Forge, and DF id Diamond Forge. The only difference is 1 spell. DF uses Diamond Pickaxe instead of LS, wich means no long waiting of r a LS hit, you just cast the spell combo and go on.