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Chaos Residue Nov 30, 2017 @ 11:27pm
Lymle Has A Crappy Grandpa *possible spoilers?*
I say possible spoilers, but this stuff is pretty close to the beginning and it isn't really impacting anything.

I really don't care if she can do symbology. There is absolutely no reason that Lymle's grandpa should have:

A) let his teenage granddaughter (who looks like a small kid) run off with a bunch of strangers.
B) let his teenage granddaughter go fight monsters.

Does nobody else ever get to that part and think, "Man... could he not even try to be responsible? Ground her or something!"
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Seraphita Nov 30, 2017 @ 11:30pm 
Um... Do you think "aliens" work with earthling rules? The young girl in question is a summoner and a symbologist. The grandpa in question is cursed by petrification. The strangers in question are believed to be gods. All in all, they aren't over protective like the weak humans we are...
Chaos Residue Nov 30, 2017 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by Zero:
Um... Do you think "aliens" work with earthling rules? The young girl in question is a summoner and a symbologist. The grandpa in question is cursed by petrification. The strangers in question are believed to be gods. All in all, they aren't over protective like the weak humans we are...

They appear to work with earthling rules. Just look at the shop owner in Triom (just a town over) who was worried about her missing daughter. There was a quest for you to go find her. And after you found her the daughter was worried about her missing cat. Then you had a quest to go find the cat. How many people would really just let their child (or grandchild in this case) run off with complete strangers, especially to fight who-knows-how-many monsters? Even if we throw out earthling logic, the logic of others on the same planet shows that this guy is a crappy grandpa. The guy didn't even know how strong the group of strangers was that took off with his granddaughter in tow.
Seraphita Nov 30, 2017 @ 11:49pm 
Well, of course the emotions are similar because as a person, that doesn't change much. But the beliefs across the universe are not the same. Also remember that the strangers in question came with a celestial ship. They are believed to be gods aka much stronger than they are.

Lymle herself doesn't really open to anyone else but them. it's a sign that he can trust them. Of course there is always the possibility that they are evil but it's not like they look evil anyway.

In short, Lymle isn't just your average casual weak child. Sure, she can't totally defend herself but her potential is still recognized. Apparently Lymle decide to go with them and HE can't do anything about it since anyway, he's cursed by stone. What could he even do, anyway? :P
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Chaos Residue Dec 1, 2017 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by Zero:
Lymle herself doesn't really open to anyone else but them. it's a sign that he can trust them. Of course there is always the possibility that they are evil but it's not like they look evil anyway.

Oh, I certainly don't think they're evil. I just think that everyone else acts normal with their kids, but this guy doesn't treat her like a normal person (and I'm using normal relative to other people from their world, not from my own perspective) would treat their child/grandchild.

Originally posted by Zero:
In short, Lymle isn't just your average casual weak child. Sure, she can't totally defend herself but her potential is still recognized.

I still say that a recognized potential is no reason to let your granddaughter run off and fight monsters with a bunch of strangers.

Originally posted by Zero:
Apparently Lymle decide to go with them and HE can't do anything about it since anyway, he's cursed by stone. What could he even do, anyway? :P

Even if he couldn't physically stop her one could expect an argument like, "If you live under my house you'll obey my rules! If you leave you're grounded!" Something like that. But he's just going, "Oh... you're going to go do a bunch of [obviously] dangerous stuff? Well.. alright then... Hurry back."

We can agree to disagree. I'm not saying you're wrong by saying he's not a crappy grandpa. But I feel like the dude needs to learn how to parent. Or grandparent.
Seraphita Dec 1, 2017 @ 12:28am 
Meh, no. He's not that kind of mean grandpa. He's a loving one and I suspect he knows she got enough ♥♥♥♥. Yeah, she's a bit young but she's also intelligent for her age. In the level where we only consider her home planet. Leaving it wasn't decided by him and he was unable to anyway.

It's classic in JRPGs. I also suspect not all children know symbology but Lymle is already a mid level at it. Include the summoner power. She is more than capable of fighting monsters. :D
Taka (Banned) Dec 1, 2017 @ 1:23am 
Isn't lmyle like, 16? I think she's old enough to take care of herself.
レフト Dec 1, 2017 @ 2:08am 
It's a fantasy sifi game and you're looking through the lense of reality?
You've been shown all sort of unplausable stuff up untill that point and you draw the line at a old man letting his young-adult grand daughter go to space?

She can summon fire and wipe out villages, I'm pretty sure she can do whatever the ♥♥♥♥ she wants with little opposition.
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(deleted) Dec 1, 2017 @ 2:12am 
Ifrit 'kay...
Seraphita Dec 1, 2017 @ 2:20am 
Originally posted by 🌟⅀⋐₭ℤ:
Isn't lmyle like, 16? I think she's old enough to take care of herself.
It says she is 15... She has the body of a 5~10 years old. I'm not even sure wtf is going on.
Taka (Banned) Dec 1, 2017 @ 2:40am 
Originally posted by Zero:
Originally posted by 🌟⅀⋐₭ℤ:
Isn't lmyle like, 16? I think she's old enough to take care of herself.
It says she is 15... She has the body of a 5~10 years old. I'm not even sure wtf is going on.
I remember reading or whatever, maybe in the game they explained it, I don't remember, it's been like almost a decade. she had some kind of shock or she's just immature and acts like a kid, but she's 15
Seraphita Dec 1, 2017 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by 🌟⅀⋐₭ℤ:
I remember reading or whatever, maybe in the game they explained it, I don't remember, it's been like almost a decade. she had some kind of shock or she's just immature and acts like a kid, but she's 15
I understand but physically, it doesn't make sense at all. Well, I'm not very far in the game. Still.
Chaos Residue Dec 1, 2017 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by Zero:
Originally posted by 🌟⅀⋐₭ℤ:
I remember reading or whatever, maybe in the game they explained it, I don't remember, it's been like almost a decade. she had some kind of shock or she's just immature and acts like a kid, but she's 15
I understand but physically, it doesn't make sense at all. Well, I'm not very far in the game. Still.

Yeah, physically looking no older than 6 is strange. Maybe it's a weird, alien, genetic defect or something.
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Black Hammer Dec 1, 2017 @ 8:30am 
To be fair, the party arrives in a spaceship that could probably reduce the village to glass with the exhaust from it taking off. He's not exactly wrong when he refers to them as gods. The fate of his village is absolutely in their hands.

Also, his feet are rocks, Lym is effectively a teenager, and last I checked, plenty of parents in good health can't do squat to stop a teenager from doing whatever the heck they want. He's at least trying to find a way for her to do it safely.
Seraphita Dec 1, 2017 @ 12:29pm 
I doubt he would let her go out there alone but again, not like he can do anything else. At least THEY are there to go with her. Even the others don't exactly agree at first but she is useful.
Cutlass Jack Dec 1, 2017 @ 1:06pm 
Grampa let her go because she scares the crap out of him and is worried she'll stab him in his sleep. 'Kay?

She's like one of those creepy dolls my sister in law collects. I'd push it out the door too if I were him.
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