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TooooooooBad Dec 5, 2018 @ 8:06pm
After defeating Lust (Spoiler)
After defeating Lust, She offert to tell Fury the locations of Envy, which was the first Sins we took down... why on hell Fury reaction was not more like "GG nice try he is already dead come join him in IS amulet"

It does make sense to me. Now I know there some twist with envy (Slighly spoiled myself on the forum.. Still havent completed the game). It should have ring a bell to Fury that something wrong, but she just act like Envy is still around.

Was that a story issue they forgot or it is explained later?
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explained later.
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Leon Dec 5, 2018 @ 8:09pm 
explained later.
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TooooooooBad Dec 5, 2018 @ 8:31pm 
Alright gonna try to finish it now. Thanks
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aMiracleeeeeeeee Dec 5, 2018 @ 10:53pm 
Finished the game myself. Had same feeling about this dialogue. I think Fury should be like "Haha are you retarded I killed it already" and atleast some of her thoughts should be described after it. One of sins just said your first enemy is alive or smth THATS KINDA STRANGE, NO?. But honestly Envy twist is good in general BUT bad explained due poor dialogues and just lazyness of developers. So you dont have the feeling you got aclually fcked at the end, not even close to twists of DarkSiders 1 and 2
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Astronimo Dec 5, 2018 @ 11:06pm 
Originally posted by aMiracleeeeeeeee:
Finished the game myself. Had same feeling about this dialogue. I think Fury should be like "Haha are you retarded I killed it already" and atleast some of her thoughts should be described after it. One of sins just said your first enemy is alive or smth THATS KINDA STRANGE, NO?. But honestly Envy twist is good in general BUT bad explained due poor dialogues and just lazyness of developers. So you dont have the feeling you got aclually fcked at the end, not even close to twists of DarkSiders 1 and 2
Lust is always lying.
And he could not know for sure, that envy is dead. From Fury's point of perspective.
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Tafseguri Dec 5, 2018 @ 11:21pm 
One thing I loved on the second playthrough, is all the hints and nods being dropped that the Watcher is Envy throughout. That I didnt pick up the first time around, casue I didnt know the twist. But once I knew, I saw the hints and nods all over.
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aMiracleeeeeeeee Dec 5, 2018 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by A.Jensen:
Originally posted by aMiracleeeeeeeee:
Finished the game myself. Had same feeling about this dialogue. I think Fury should be like "Haha are you retarded I killed it already" and atleast some of her thoughts should be described after it. One of sins just said your first enemy is alive or smth THATS KINDA STRANGE, NO?. But honestly Envy twist is good in general BUT bad explained due poor dialogues and just lazyness of developers. So you dont have the feeling you got aclually fcked at the end, not even close to twists of DarkSiders 1 and 2
Lust is always lying.
And he could not know for sure, that envy is dead. From Fury's point of perspective.

Not rly lying. He was making an illusions of things person is hungry to kinda and trying to control person in that way. But why on hell would he think that Fury wish to know wheres Envy? And even if she thought its a lie imo atleast she should have couple of thoughts why would Lust lie to her that way. My point was that this dialogue doesnt affect Fury at all.
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Astronimo Dec 5, 2018 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by aMiracleeeeeeeee:
Originally posted by A.Jensen:
Lust is always lying.
And he could not know for sure, that envy is dead. From Fury's point of perspective.

Not rly lying. He was making an illusions of things person is hungry to kinda and trying to control person in that way. But why on hell would he think that Fury wish to know wheres Envy? And even if she thought its a lie imo atleast she should have couple of thoughts why would Lust lie to her that way. My point was that this dialogue doesnt affect Fury at all.
From Fury's point of perspective.
Man, come on
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Leon Dec 5, 2018 @ 11:49pm 
Originally posted by A.Jensen:
Originally posted by aMiracleeeeeeeee:

Not rly lying. He was making an illusions of things person is hungry to kinda and trying to control person in that way. But why on hell would he think that Fury wish to know wheres Envy? And even if she thought its a lie imo atleast she should have couple of thoughts why would Lust lie to her that way. My point was that this dialogue doesnt affect Fury at all.
From Fury's point of perspective.
Man, come on

just if you guys didn't notice, when Lust was offering the location of Envy (tried to), and even he knew that Envy was the watcher as he indirectly was talking to her (and about her-envy- in fury's prespective), Fury hesitated a bit, she looked for just a moment somewhere else, as if she was questioning herself is it actualy true...?

Because let us think about it, Lust gives visions or control people and show them what they desire, like what they want to accomplish, as an entire goal, and in this case he can't lie, because of few reasons, the stone that sucks the sins back to whatever hell they go to can't possiblely work in illusion, plus it will show if she was near an actual sin or not. and killing envy alone isn't the whole goal that Fury wants to achieve, because there are more sins to hunt.
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TooooooooBad Dec 6, 2018 @ 12:28am 
Another weird thing about story inconsistency is... How the first time she see Glutony. She think this is Lust in another form... Then she meet the beast again later not knowing who it is then suddenly when swimming right below it, she immediatly recall him has Glutony...

WTF is wrong with Fury? Are the writter forgot that Fury "killed Envy" and emprisonned "him" inside the talisman? And she forgot who is Lust/Glutony?
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Astronimo Dec 6, 2018 @ 1:22am 
Originally posted by GLaDOS:
Another weird thing about story inconsistency is... How the first time she see Glutony. She think this is Lust in another form... Then she meet the beast again later not knowing who it is then suddenly when swimming right below it, she immediatly recall him has Glutony...

WTF is wrong with Fury? Are the writter forgot that Fury "killed Envy" and emprisonned "him" inside the talisman? And she forgot who is Lust/Glutony?
She knows that tgis in not Lust. Man. There is another dialog, like before Lust. First, she speaks about ugly form of Sins. Than she speaks about Lust. It's ok. Seems, you are mesleading here.
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Elensar Dec 6, 2018 @ 2:17am 
*** Spoilers ***


Now that you finished the game, watch the Lust scene again... she actually looks directly at the watcher.

Watch the scenes again, all your questions are answered in various dialog that you will pick up on your next playthrough :)
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TooooooooBad Dec 6, 2018 @ 9:54pm 
Finished the game too. I still find it odd that Fury doesnt react more when Lust mention Envy.

Ho well... but the real issue is with the current sales of DS3.. I have low hope for ever seeing the end of the Darksiders story with Strife and the breaking of the last seal. :(
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