Who asked for this game to be a Dark Souls clone?

[Frugl]

I went in expecting a casual hack and slash experince with puzzle elements(like the past two games), instead i find the result of some designer who found his new favorite game in the soulsborn genre, and wanted to make his own.

It is mind boggeling and honestly somewhat frustrating.

[Yagyu]

no one complained in the first parts why was it a copy of world of warcraft why was it a copy of zelda now suddenly it gets a little more difficult all the scrubs start crying, git gud

[Mihai_89]

I agree with you OP i have both DS1 (warmastered and original) and DS2 (deathinitive and original), i don't have much playtime on either of them, but i know the combat used to be way more different, easier, more like devil may cry maybe (can't find a good example).

But DS3 combat is just really hard and frustrating, i was also expecting to slash enemies in counts of 3-4 on every encounter not just go 1 on 1 with them...

Hell sometimes if there are more waves on the screen i have to think about it before i go attack them cuz i'm not sure i can handle them... i'm not sure if devs went for a different feel of the combat, but i preffered the old combat system.

I like the DS3 story and even the 1 on 1 encounters i can deal with mainly because Fury looks awesome using that whip, but out of the 4 difficulties, i'm on the 2nd one and i have to say it's really frustrating.

[Zettai]

Originally posted by ZERO KAY PER CENT:

Originally posted by Lolita Erotica:

So EVERY game with;
Picking up souls/currency after death
Respawning enemies upon death.
A physical '' checkpoint " with travel,
And being a bit difficult-
Makes it a total dark souls clone and not a game with some small mechanics inspired from it?

something inspired by something is usually called a clone. Like all shooters used to be doom clones.

Well ♥♥♥♥, if that was true then why dont we just go full stupid and call it a demon soul clone? Or go full meta and call it a clone of the game that INSPIRED demon souls?

[chaoticWolf17]

Originally posted by SomeUnregPunk:

Originally posted by diknmuis:

won't not mind if it's a good clone, but bad combat and camera makes it not hard but frustrating

That is unless you aren't a controller. Keyboard keybinding is stupid. Not being able to define your own keybinding is also stupid. Don't use the keyboard.


Bait, dodge then attack. This makes camera issues non existant.

Also, if you look at the menu, there is a page for attack button combination. The simpliest which can be easily turned into an AOE attack is "Hold X"

Take the big monsters( mid-boss? mini-boss? i dunno ) in D3, bait the enemies around them to come at you one or two at time and wipe them. Then when you take on that boss, mainly stand in one place and dodge around them, attack a few times, rinse and repeat.

You can change the keybindings, just click on them and select what you prefer.

[Dung Defender]

Originally posted by Lolita Erotica:

Originally posted by ZERO KAY PER CENT:

something inspired by something is usually called a clone. Like all shooters used to be doom clones.

Well ♥♥♥♥, if that was true then why dont we just go full stupid and call it a demon soul clone? Or go full meta and call it a clone of the game that INSPIRED demon souls?

We only call something clone from something that was supposed to be perfect and wirespread. People could call this Demon souls clone but not our fault it still stuck on the PS3.

[Fizzon]

Not a dark souls clone, end of story.

[Frugl]

Originally posted by Fizzon:

Not a dark souls clone, end of story.

You are arguing semantics at this point.

[Shrinkshooter]

Originally posted by Fizzon:

Not a dark souls clone, end of story.

It isn't the end of story or you wouldn't have so many people retelling the story.

It is only halfway a Souls clone anyhow, in that you bank souls, collect souls, need to recollect on death, and have an Estus flask, along with respawning enemies in locations if you die. Those are all hallmarks of Dark Souls.

The combat itself is NOT like DS, but it's noticeably worse than Darksiders 2 solely from a design standpoint. The biggest standout is how absolutely horrible a powerful Horseman is against 3 or 4 enemies. War and Death handled multiple enemies just fine (Death did especially, anyone remeber the Gauntlet? AMAZING fun going through 100 rounds of that! With many, many groups of enemies) but Fury is terrible at handling enemy groups, even weak ones. The best she can do is hold LMB and hope for the best, especially considering that your dodges have almost no I-frames to speak of and no cancellation ability.

I could list more things about the combat mechanics but the point is, it's bad. It has the potential to be great, like DmC or Bayonetta, but it is missing a dozen different things that are absolutely required in order to bring the combat up to that. I have no confidence Gunfire know or understand how to do that.

[Krustenkäse]

Originally posted by Rick Tn-1:

I can't stand the souls games, I find them utterly boring I cannot see why they are so praised. I like this one though, for now at least... *shrug*

Prolly cause u didnt git gud enough

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by Frugl1:

Who asked for this game to be a Dark Souls clone?

Probably the same folks who asked for the original Darksiders to be a Zelda/God of War clone, or the second game to add Diablo loot.
It's also not really a Dark Souls clone any more than something like Devil May Cry is; people just throw that term around.

[lentinant]

So, what are the bad points of resembling Dark Souls? The only thing I'm really not OK with is checkpoints, which sometimes may be placed too far from previous ones. Maybe also map absence.

Can't see what's wrong with the game in other ways. It is as difficult as first one (at least on higher difficulties), and combat in general reminds me rather of Nier Automata on Hard, but with more strict evasion.

Refreshable healing item is actually extra forgiving aspect of game - same to Dark Souls, and unlike most slashers, it ensures you have some healing item after death aside of consumables (which is especially useful on bosses), but unlike Dark Souls, it actually allows you to refill it between checkpoints.

Corpse run is also really forgiving, while still remaining a punishment for death to some extent. You drop souls on death, but your next death will NOT destroy previous lost souls, so you can gather all your lost souls no matter how much you die.

Exploration is rather on point - it is very rewarding, and world at least feels whole with all those connections between areas.

So, even if it may be Dark Souls "clone", I can't find anything bad with it. Most issues game has have nothing to do with this resemblance.

[Rezilia]

Originally posted by ZERO KAY PER CENT:

something inspired by something is usually called a clone. Like all shooters used to be doom clones.

And like how Odyssey is a WoW/Borderlands clone.

[OV3RDR1VE]

Git gud u filthy casual

[lastbreath]

Originally posted by Silence:

Git gud u filthy casual

Why the hell I should git gud in hockey if I bought SOCCER? If I want to play hockey I'll buy NFL, DON'T YOU THINK? So, if I buy Darksiders game I want to get Darksiders mechanivcs, not cheap Souls clone!

[1984]

Originally posted by lastbreath:

Originally posted by Silence:

Git gud u filthy casual

Why the hell I should git gud in hockey if I bought SOCCER? If I want to play hockey I'll buy NFL, DON'T YOU THINK? So, if I buy Darksiders game I want to get Darksiders mechanivcs, not cheap Souls clone!

Darksiders has no mechanics baeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee