Conquest, Famine, War, & Death

[Voyd™]

Who the f#*& is "Fury" ? the four horsemen are Conquest, Famine, War, & Death. If it's supposed to be one of the 4 horsemen, I'm 100% totally cool with making one of them a female character, but why change the name?

[Mikoto]

Don't forget Strife...I mean...is he related to Cloud or something?

Joking aside, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the original names. These renames are just really generic and honestly kind of lame.

[Marshmallow]

"Though theologians and popular culture differ on the first Horseman, the four riders are often seen as symbolizing Conquest or Pestilence (and less frequently, the Christ or the Antichrist), War, Famine, and Death." ~Wiki

Sounds to me like there is some room for renaming. Also remember that foreign languages rarely translate litterally into English; it's a game of interpretation and the Bible was not written in English.

[Voyd™]

Originally posted by Cosmic Castaway:

"Though theologians and popular culture differ on the first Horseman, the four riders are often seen as symbolizing Conquest or Pestilence (and less frequently, the Christ or the Antichrist), War, Famine, and Death." ~Wiki

Sounds to me like there is some room for renaming. Also remember that foreign languages rarely translate litterally into English; it's a game of interpretation and the Bible was not written in English.

Fair enough - you have a very valid point. I just like the generally accepted 4 names that have been floating around for the last 2000 years. =p

[Zarakaï]

Yeah they can have different names, but here they specifically avoided Famine, Pestilence and Conquest I think. Especially for a female character.

Famine isn't catchy like War and Death, what would the character powers be ? Make the enemies die of hunger ? What about her look ? Would she be some anorexic girl ? It wouldn't work, and there would be a ton of backlash, like some years ago when super models were deemed too skinny and a bad role model.

Pestilence, well, that's not too catchy either, is it ? But it would have been reaaaaally funny to have an heroine who smells terrible.

And Conquest, that would have been kinda mysoginistic I think for a woman. She's your conquest, the reward you get, the trophy. Feminazis would make a ruckus.

Now they chose Fury, and she has a whip and looks like a dominatrix. It's still a bit cliché I think, women in games generally have a bow, a whip, or they are mages and healers, they are always nimble and agile. I wish they had done a character which looks more badass.

[MrSoris]

While there is room for interpretation Fury is kind of a weird choice for the name, its the only one that does not fit with being the only emotion of the four, i guess they can all be interpreted as reasons humanity could end with Death being the final consequence since he is also the leader.

What i also don't like is how Strife and War and to a lesser extend also fury are all kinda the same concepts.
I mean Strife means conflict right ? And War (the character) already seemed like the furious, heated one and now Fury would have to be even more aggressive than he is right ?

I think Conquest could have been pretty cool as a female character, im thinking of someone resembling Bellona who also is using a whip in Mythology so they could have even kept that concept. Or maybe also Nike. In my mind she would have been pretty calm and reasonable as you can't conquer something without a good strategy but she would have been fierce in battle, just like these gods were described basically and she would use many different weapons just like Bellona did in mythology were she was depicted using many different weapons.

Famine i would have imagined as an old man tall and slim and in his awakening mode (since they all seem to posses one) he would have turned into a glutenous monster since he took all nourishment of the things he fought and in that mode uses that or something.

Idk just some quick ideas xD

[suksas]

We do need to remember that these are not the representation of 4 horsemen of real life, but simply Nephilim who were handed the title by Charred council.

Look at Death. The game should have been over in an hour, instead we had to faf around killing enemies instead of just reaping their souls imediatly and be talked back to by the Lord of the Dead.

Death looked more like middle management than actual impersonisation of Death.

[Allard]

Originally posted by Voydangel:

Who the f#*& is "Fury" ? the four horsemen are Conquest, Famine, War, & Death. If it's supposed to be one of the 4 horsemen, I'm 100% totally cool with making one of them a female character, but why change the name?

Of those four only ONE is in the Bible - Death. The rest were never given a name. Conquest, Famine and War come from apocrypha - the fan fiction to the Bible, if you will. Darksiders' interpretation is no less valid than any other.

[Allard]

Originally posted by MrSoris:

What i also don't like is how Strife and War and to a lesser extend also fury are all kinda the same concepts.
I mean Strife means conflict right ? And War (the character) already seemed like the furious, heated one and now Fury would have to be even more aggressive than he is right ?

I see it as Fury going for raw agression, Strife representing infighting, whereas War is organized conflict. Also, War as a character alternated between being furious and stoic.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Voydangel:

Who the f#*& is "Fury" ? the four horsemen are Conquest, Famine, War, & Death. If it's supposed to be one of the 4 horsemen, I'm 100% totally cool with making one of them a female character, but why change the name?

Its War Famine Death and Pestilence...

[Diabetic Dan]

Perhaps those of you confused should replay the first and second. She was not named in either. They tell you the 4 in the first half of the first game. She's a mystery as far as the game lore goes.

[SomeUnregPunk]

Originally posted by Diabetic Dan:

Perhaps those of you confused should replay the first and second. She was not named in either. They tell you the 4 in the first half of the first game. She's a mystery as far as the game lore goes.

yeah about that...

http://kotaku.com/5446989/meet-darksiders-three-other-horsemen-of-the-apocalypse/

that article is from 2010.

and this is another article from a different site from 2010

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.167519-Meet-Darksiders-Other-Three-Horsemen-of-the-Apocalypse

which references this article

http://www.vg247.com/2010/01/12/darksiders-famine-pestilence-and-death-already-designed-says-joe-mad/

[Aicus]

Originally posted by Diabetic Dan:

Perhaps those of you confused should replay the first and second. She was not named in either. They tell you the 4 in the first half of the first game. She's a mystery as far as the game lore goes.

Read the comic that is included with Darksiders 1 before asking ohers to replay the game.

All 4 Horsemen are shown and named, Fury is the correct name lore wise and so is Strife.

[KelpTheGreat]

I've never heard of "Conquest" as a horseman before. The ones I know are War, Death, Famine, and Pestilence/Plague. Still, it's cool that they had these named years ago.

[suksas]

Originally posted by KelpTheGreat:

I've never heard of "Conquest" as a horseman before. The ones I know are War, Death, Famine, and Pestilence/Plague. Still, it's cool that they had these named years ago.

It is used rarely. Not as popular as other two.

[Hypothermia]

Seemingly Fury will eventually wield all power of 7 deadly sins. Which makes her some sort of hell's judge who has the scale. Which makes her the Famine, I guess. But here we have, like, 1 death and 3 war associated horsemen. I'm confused.