Strategic Decision with 2nd Cosmic Seed

[Spartaclauz]

So i finally got my second cosmic seed (didn't expect that guy to just hand it like that)
However i'm torned on what to do with it.
At first i wanted to make a second village that i can Moon Bridge to and fro with, however, i tested it beforehand and Moon Bridge doesn't teleport a village (nothing happened) even when theres 2 village, so there goes my plan of teleporting between nodes of resources and creating my summer vacation village ( i found a place with 3 T3 leather together for summer gathering).

Anyway, now i have no idea what to do with the cosmic seed. The Other Ring stat boost is very alluring but i can't deny the advantage of having buildings boost when gathering. However, at the same time having 2 village can be annoying micromanagement, especially when i wanted to get the varying food source morale boost.

So i guess my question can be summarized to: is The Other Ring utility worth not having a second village?
and when creating a second village Idol, is it possible to get masterwork quality Idol? (the chances are low without buildings and idol boost but i got mine to 14%, however no matter how much save scum i did there's no masterwork idol i got)

[XenoReaver]

Almost every time I've gotten to the end of the story I usually still have the 2nd Cosmic Seed still in my inventory. I on't feel the need to have or use the Other Ring.

As for Idols, seemingly Idols can't be masterwork or trash quality.

[DNLH]

Always felt like Other Ring is giving you too much power, I only use it when I want my Chosen to roleplay a Sauron or I'm lacking a point or two in strength for werewolf arena. That being said, haven't played a game in which I'd have two villages either.

If one doesn't expect that the villagers will need to leave the settlement, wouldn't morale-boosting building be enough for it? Then you could just stockpile and forbid usage of whole bunch of food in case you'd really need to send out an expedition from there.

[Lorska]

There isn't too much benefits to a second village atm, because you have to defend both of them and they require a decent amount of people in them to be worth.
So usually people just get the Ring.

Nothing created from cosmic seeds can be trash or masterwork. It was done to prevent failure or too much of a power spike with unique resources.

I just modded other stuff in for use of the seed, because right now the ring is basically the go-to whether you have a village or not.

[Spartaclauz]

引用自 XenoReaver：

As for Idols, seemingly Idols can't be masterwork or trash quality.

ah that's good to know, having trash quality idols would be a disaster lmao

引用自 DNLH：

If one doesn't expect that the villagers will need to leave the settlement, wouldn't morale-boosting building be enough for it? Then you could just stockpile and forbid usage of whole bunch of food in case you'd really need to send out an expedition from there.

i have judged the morale keeping building is not worth it. it doesn't boost morale, it just keeps the minimum morale on a certain threshold, and the material required to achieve even 50 morale is totally not worth the trouble. (Design mode is such a blessing)

引用自 Lorska：

There isn't too much benefits to a second village atm, because you have to defend both of them and they require a decent amount of people in them to be worth.
So usually people just get the Ring.

Nothing created from cosmic seeds can be trash or masterwork. It was done to prevent failure or too much of a power spike with unique resources.

I just modded other stuff in for use of the seed, because right now the ring is basically the go-to whether you have a village or not.

Quite a pity second village strats is not good. I envision a strat where moon bridge can be used to teleport between villages, however there's the problem of the Summoned Village Demon, which means the village can still be attacked, so i thought the moon bridged would also teleport him with me to the new village.
Really too bad moon bridge doesn't work on village T-T

[was_fired]

In terms of raw power The Other Ring is the better choice. If you give it to an already powerful chosen the game is essentially over, and you've won.

Villages are mostly there to allow you to store junk equipment / materials and for the bonus it grants when crafting. They can do other things, like make junk characters stronger while in them and grant passive XP to partially make up for what you lose out on for not being a nomad, but they are the weaker choice unless you get seriously behind and need to play catch up after the early game.

[Spartaclauz]

i guess i'm going fot The Other Ring then for the second cosmic seed.
Quick question though, it fits in the jewellery slot right? is it unequipable once you equip it?

[XenoReaver]

Yes it's jewellery and it can be unequipped.

[Spartaclauz]

引用自 XenoReaver：

Yes it's jewellery and it can be unequipped.

ok thanks for keeping it straighforward and simple in all your answers :D

[Mc]

Well, you don't really need the 2nd village and by the time you can do it, you are probably strong anyway and it will just slow you down. Still it is different experience so why not try it, I did it once, it was my longest game though. If you are going to do it make sure it is great spot wit 2 or 3 T3 resources, coal, some food.

If you play islands and first village is on starting island then you don't need many characters to protect it, just 2 veterans +demon will suffice. You then build big ship and transfer everything important to kickstart the new one.

Of course strategically most sensible thing is to build other ring and roll through the rest of the game. But as others say, if you have AOE character (random blasts, elf etc.) it will make him extremely powerful. If this concerns you then you could perhaps use it on some other character which will be more balanced. In my game where I did not use any AoE taget anywhere skills it was actually very useful boost and even with it some figths were still difficult or impossible.

[Spartaclauz]

引用自 XenoReaver：

As for Idols, seemingly Idols can't be masterwork or trash quality.

i assume the other ring also works the same way and cannot be masterwork? i just need a little boost with Spiky Leather material to get full essence and i've been save scumming like crazy to no result, not even trash quality, so i think it can't?

[Lorska]

引用自 Lorska：

Nothing created from cosmic seeds can be trash or masterwork. It was done to prevent failure or too much of a power spike with unique resources.

[Thatwasme]

You can use the reinforce mechanic between villages if you build them close enough together, it`s kinda fun from a roleplaying standpoint, especially when building them across water, though finding spots where that`s useful or even possible can be pretty hard.

[Mc]

引用自 Thatwasme：

You can use the reinforce mechanic between villages if you build them close enough together

Haha, you can have 2 village demons in one battle :-). Actually in the new Pangea settings it is possible to find two good spots close by on the border of 2 different biomes. Though you might not have the time to search for it in the early game.

[Spartaclauz]

引用自 Lorska：

引用自 Lorska：

Nothing created from cosmic seeds can be trash or masterwork. It was done to prevent failure or too much of a power spike with unique resources.

oh right whoops

引用自 Thatwasme：

You can use the reinforce mechanic between villages if you build them close enough together, it`s kinda fun from a roleplaying standpoint, especially when building them across water, though finding spots where that`s useful or even possible can be pretty hard.

wait i thought u can't build village too close as in inside 3 space away, and the 3 space is the reinforcement limit unless you change it to 6

[XenoReaver]

引用自 UrielTheFallen：

引用自 Thatwasme：

You can use the reinforce mechanic between villages if you build them close enough together, it`s kinda fun from a roleplaying standpoint, especially when building them across water, though finding spots where that`s useful or even possible can be pretty hard.

wait i thought u can't build village too close as in inside 3 space away, and the 3 space is the reinforcement limit unless you change it to 6

What Thatwasme meant is that the reinforce range is 6 or 7 (can't remember which, I don't use reinforce) so if you build villages in each others reinforcement range then the people in the villages will protect both villages.