Elven Druids and how do i get them?

[sokka87]

Yes, i know you can start with one, but i like growing my units up from children...only problem is i cant get that to happen. I have save scummed an elf child to get mysticism stat up 3 points on lvl up, Plus 1 from wild senses, plus 2 from cat, and it still didnt show up as an option even once out of 20 times. What am i missing

[Leg Day]

Mine grew up into a harpy demon with nice tatas. I considered myself lucky then I was killed by 6 rats.

[Lumisteria]

Originally posted by sokka87:

Yes, i know you can start with one, but i like growing my units up from children...only problem is i cant get that to happen. I have save scummed an elf child to get mysticism stat up 3 points on lvl up, Plus 1 from wild senses, plus 2 from cat, and it still didnt show up as an option even once out of 20 times. What am i missing

You need either 2 magic users or being friend with elves in addition to some mysticism to see the path.

When you start with a child it could be difficult to get options when growing up if you aren't friend with the faction.

[iacs]

Well, i just checked a new version. And, from what it looks like, it is possible to do mainly elven village which gives you a lot of chances to get mage or druid.
1) Start as Lada (worse - Dzievana, even worse - Stribog)
2) Choose banished druid, if possible, accompany him or her with children (+ crafter for Stribog, Lada's scavenger is too bad). If you have 5 points total - just druid.
3) Retry couple of times until your Chosen has Ground Shake as starting skill. This way you will have means not only to do talking challenges, but fighting as well as solo spellcaster. Hurry up items on children will help immensly. For better chance of elven village both human children should have same sex to prevent overflow of human children. Dot fear them having children with Chosen Druid and upping population count - elves reqiure beautiful humans to produce children.
3a) Ideally, if either elven or ice island has a little splinter island - settle there for diamonds or better ancient wood. For coal you will need raiding party, but that is doable. Crystall wood crafting for the future! Nonetheless, your village in the middle of small island will prevent monster lair spawn here and allow village to have relative safety.
4) If you have done this correctly, your human chidren will eventually grow up. Warrior + crafter or warrior + witch, or warrior + zerca is ideal, because you will have to do strength 4-5 mental challenge in worst case.
5) Go, find elven village. If you are lucky, you will find elven cementary on map. Restart going for it untill it is guarded by elves who will give a task to capture corrupted spirit. If you succeed - good, if you fail you still get +1 elven rep as thaks for trying. As a result elves are now neutral. If you are not lucky - talk to roaming elven group and persuade them that you are frienly. That is hard, but druid has a chance to succeed.
6) Now you can do quests for elves, which require even more talking, or give them gems. You have to raise reputation to 50 to be able to recruit.
7) Recruit either second druid or warrior for total item cost of 30000. Theese options seems to appear depending on how low your population is. Choose sex of recruit depending on your main druid's sex - you need pair of man and woman. Nonetheless, now you have a pair of elves who can have children. And, as your population is still low it will be them that produce chilren most likely. If you have random human child from cabbage patch, just reload.

[Lumisteria]

I don't see where in the event editor you need different sex for elven to reproduce, what matter to them is being beautiful.

Also, this sounds like a lot of work for an event that could only happens once anyway, and having child from cabbage patch will not prevent the elf stork event for triggering (it's a chance that will not change depending of your population since it's a "special" event). The only issue would be if you get a non-elf character being beautiful since elf+non elf have 25% chance to give a human offspring (with some elf skill however).

[iacs]

Unfortunately, you are correct, elven child event could happen only once and does not check sex. I did a lot of event checking in new version and got it mixed up a bit in my head with things like orc getting children. That can happen exactly two times - one event with male orc and one event with female orc. Dwarves can produce two children, but second only with rusalka.

Well, at least there is a way for "infinite" orcs - human crafter and gatherer iniciation can fail and be replaced with goblin child. That child then can become an orc child. Chances are of both events are a bit slim through.

Elves are limited to five - your starting druid or child, two recruits from elven village and one child born, plus druid joining by main quest. Not that you really need more, than five elves, they can outcast and outtalk anything.

[Emerson]

Originally posted by iacs:

Elves are limited to five - your starting druid or child, two recruits from elven village and one child born, plus druid joining by main quest. Not that you really need more, than five elves, they can outcast and outtalk anything.

I recall an event about two elves getting beat up by orcs, choosing to save the elves will result in a later event of the two elves offering you an elf child. Not sure if this event counts towards to elf limit.

[iacs]

Originally posted by Emerson:

I recall an event about two elves getting beat up by orcs, choosing to save the elves will result in a later event of the two elves offering you an elf child. Not sure if this event counts towards to elf limit.

Never got this event. Good to know that there is potentialy sixth joinable elf, even if it depends on random event. Does anybody else know events that give you elves, preferably children, as they are chance to get a druid or mage?

[Thunderllama]

I can confirm saving the 2 elves from the orcs gave me an elven child a dozen or two turns later.

[SmegAu]

Like the guy above said: nursery that gives +4.5 attribs and 190% mysticism and destiny combined with forgotten relic made from morph material and forgotten essence in hand; that gives 140% mysticism, elf kids that have 19ish myticism, elf mage option always there. My elves also bred with a comment like bla bla elite elves only breed with elves and made another elf. Dzievanna's feral seems pretty insanely tough too from elves.

[iacs]

Done a few short runs again. Splinter islands is quite often, Ground Shake is still preffered to start with, else you will unlikely to have it on levels 3 and 5. Elven graveyards still give a lot of friendshippy options and if you sail early, worst you will see on elven island is level 3 demon circle which is talkable by three placing of a druid on board with elven voice skill. And ancient wood still makes good enougth armor. Well, when the game finally is released I will do Elven druid - settle on elven island run... Outelving everything on map will be fun.

[iacs]

So, I started a trial run with Druid and two human children, settled a village on splinter of elven island, befriended elves and still have low population - it's turn 87 and I vent from three characters to four - starting ones plus village demon. I'm having reguar events for either childbirth or that spider child. Yet when i try to recruit elves, i don't have options for banished druid and guardian.

Does anybody know how this FRA_PopulationChance work? I found it in node for guardian and druid recruitment and it is only criteria.

Oh, got a guardan after a dozen tries! Now just to wait for the kid.

P.S. Starting druid is not perfect - no ground shake, so bad at phisical challenges, but absolutely devastating in magical and mental ones due to tendency to collect every stat increasing event.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1733554053

P.S.S. Interesting, how many god points I will earn before ending this game due to release?

[iacs]

Child is born and even grew up! She is named after a great hero of previous timeline of Thea.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/796485929330045712/BE5F4360A255025AE7CFDDA5FD2B190A29BEB860/
Now i have my elven village - three elves to one orc, two humans and village demon. 3 of 7! Time to recruit another elf and may be orc and dwarf.

[iacs]

Just failed elven route of main quest by surrender (could have won easily but decided to have pity on elves). Nai-ysir joined and thus maximum reliable elven count reached.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/796485929335375406/DC6E62F735E9C04F5301A42B473F558C326B311E/
4 in active party and fifth, the gatherer, in the village.

Also, majorly non human village reached - 1 dwarf (smith - getting him was a war with RNG), 2 humans (warrior and witch), 1 house demon, 1 syrin (sea demon), 2 orcs (slugger and his daughter, matriarch, even harder war with RNG) and 5 elves (chosen druid; her wife, forest guardian; their daughter, mage; forest gatherer and Nai-ysir)! 5 of 12 characters - elves.

P.S. Syrin is quite interesting character - she starts with very powerfull inspire skill, but random currently prevents her from leveling it.

P.S.S. Now I just have to get human child to give her divine blessing to change into rusalka. May be I should visit slavians...

[iacs]

The "elven playthrough" ended just a few minutes ago. Totally collected - 5 elves, 4 orcs (3 adult, one still child), 4 demons (syrin, rusalka, house demon and vila), 3 dwarves, 2 humans and one goblin.

I got event with two elven lovers, but they did not bring a child for more than hundred turns. Still, 5 is good too - elves are still majority. Humans were succesfully kept from overpopulating anybody else - starting children, who became warrior and witch, did not have any children themselves, two human girls who became rusalka and vila were hired from slavians.

DIvine quest completed, main quest completed. Only thing left for domination victory is either get 20th character - doable with short visit to shadow elves or may be orcs or goblins, or 7th race - animals or undead.

So i call this success - elven village has survived and "elved" it's way through shattered Thea.

[sokka87]

minor question, how did you get rusalka?