I move for a vote of no confidence, in Disney's use of Star Wars.

[Dread Pony Roberts]

Disney is making one new Star Wars movie a year (something can't be special if it's given all the time).

Disney has given Kathleen Kennedy control of the Star Wars movies (the one she had the most control of just so happens to be the worst Star Wars movie according to Rotten Tomatoes).

They removed the EU in favor of...what we got.

Disney has given exclusive rights to make Star Wars games to EA (they gave us EAfront 1, EAfront 2, and a "free" mobile game).

If this body is not capable of respecting the Star Wars title, I suggest new leadership is needed.
Vote with your wallets.

[Dread Pony Roberts]

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ℛaveÐƵ eredeti hozzászólása:

The current trilogy lacks consistency, and is hardly meme worthy. If any memes do come from it, then they'll carry negative connotations, unlike many previous SW memes. I also highly doubt anything good will come from it either. No good games, no decent side-stories, no lore, pretty much nothing.

The future cannot be predicted by mere spectators. The future depends on what we do. You might merely sit on your behind and criticise and do nothing productive, but I will certainly continue to trumpet the wisdom of The Last Jedi.

The future is based on past events. Observe the past and you can predict the future.

[Dread Pony Roberts]

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AAC-1 eredeti hozzászólása:

also did they have to make forces of femenism canon i know targeted towards kids but did they really have to make it canon

Feminism is gender equality. This makes the world a happier and more prosperous place, so I support it.

https://newint.org/features/2017/07/01/equality-effect
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1518412.Life_and_How_To_Survive_It

What did women ever do to you that makes you want them to be shown as inferior in media?

This sounds good on paper but it usually leads to a reverse of the supposed problem where men are placed way below the women.

[Dread Pony Roberts]

I have some things to do so I can't take on your big comment just yet but I promise you that I will get to it (unless someone beats me to it).

[black mesa security]

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

AAC-1 eredeti hozzászólása:

also did they have to make forces of femenism canon i know targeted towards kids but did they really have to make it canon

Feminism is gender equality. This makes the world a happier and more prosperous place, so I support it.

https://newint.org/features/2017/07/01/equality-effect
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1518412.Life_and_How_To_Survive_It

What did women ever do to you that makes you want them to be shown as inferior in media?

femenism isnt neede anymore men and woman have had eqaul rights for a long time now all they do is complain about random things

[black mesa security]

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

AAC-1 eredeti hozzászólása:

also did they have to make forces of femenism canon i know targeted towards kids but did they really have to make it canon

Feminism is gender equality. This makes the world a happier and more prosperous place, so I support it.

https://newint.org/features/2017/07/01/equality-effect
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1518412.Life_and_How_To_Survive_It

What did women ever do to you that makes you want them to be shown as inferior in media?

also the third wave femenist movement seems to be more about female domination then eqaulity

[Sol]

Just purchase 'The High Ground' DLC and we'll win.

[Dread Pony Roberts]

I'm back so now for the big one.

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

Every character was shown to be fallible, regardless of gender. This is realistic. I suggest you look at the evidence of reality.

The problem is not that they made mistakes, but that the movie tries to brush them aside as if they weren't mistakes at all.
When Pong Krell made bad errors in the Battle of Umbara, the clones took notice (it later showed that Pong was betrayed the Republic.
When Luke chose to skip training, Yoda took notice (and Luke lost his hand).
Even when Luke chooses to not train Rey, Rey takes notice.
But when Purple Hair, Rose, and Leia make their errors, the movie wants you to think that these are heroic feats.

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

As for "weakness", this is a useful trait. Remember the taoist wisdom from the Tao Te Ching:

http://www.wussu.com/laotzu/laotzu76.html

Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 76

A man is born gentle and weak.
At his death he is hard and stiff.
Green plants are tender and filled with sap.
At their death they are withered and dry.

Therefore the stiff and unbending is the disciple of death.
The gentle and yielding is the disciple of life.

Thus an army without flexibility never wins a battle.
A tree that is unbending is easily broken.

The hard and strong will fall.
The soft and weak will overcome.

This still doesn't explain Baby Revan, Poe needing to blindly follow Purple Hair even though her logic was clearly flawed, and Finn needing to be "saved" by Rose (I will get into that more in this next quote).

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

As for Rose, she doesn't exactly "sacrifice herself". She survives - if you look at the rest of the film, you'll see she survives.

The problem is not that she survived, but that unless Luke showed up then the Resistance would be completely destroyed.

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

And to further disprove your claims of "anti-man bias" , a much more effective action in saving the Resistance was done by a man - Luke Skywalker - when he confronted the First Order, he was motivated by love for his friends, and he accomplished what he set out to do: he saved them. Rey also made a complimentary contribution in moving the rocks that blocked the escape of the Resistance, and thus we see that a man and a woman both made equal contributions to the escape of the Resistance - BOTH saved the Resistance.

He was also in the original trilogy so if he didn't do something before they killed him off, then the fans would get extra angry.

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

No, she doesn't. Leia demoted Poe because he disobeyed orders and to teach him the lesson of thinking outside the cockpit, if I remember what she said correctly. The example you gave is of a man leading a mission which saves the Resistance - which is another example which disproves your claim that women did all the saving. Also, Leia's action can be interpreted as her own fallibility, in refusing to acknowledge the benefit of Poe's mission. As in much of REAL LIFE, the actions of Poe and Leia are not black and white - it depends on how we interpret them - which is what Obi Wan Kenobi told Luke, in the original trilogy, remember?

Her orders were flawed so he took matters into his own hands to save the Resistance.
Also see my first point.

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

As for Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo, many people would agree that she made a mistake by not telling Poe or other lower-ranking Resistance people of her plan (and the mutiny is yet more evidence that she made a mistake by being an authoritarian secretive leader, instead of a more democratic and open one). That seems like an example of HER fallibility, not her "saving a man". And she once she saw no other option for the Resistance to survive, she took responsibility for her failure, by sacrificing herself doing what many would say was a very effective action to save the Resistance.

See my first point.

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

Rich people are, BY DEFINITION, harmful, because they hoard wealth while other people suffer from poverty.

Some rich people want to be rich so they can help more people in the end and some rich people consider their wealth to be the harvest of a long and honest hard earned labor.
Padme was a queen yet she was still considered good. Leia was a princess yet she was good as well.
Also Disney itself is run by a bunch of very rich people. They don't even follow the ideas of the movie.

Here's something to think about.
Rich person: Why do I have this money when I could have given it to someone poorer.
Poor person: Why did I accept this gift when I could have given it to someone poorer.
Very poor person: I never worked and yet I still got some money, what's the point in working at all?
Rich person: Why work when all these people aren't working yet they still get money?

[Dr. Atrocious]

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ℛaveÐƵ eredeti hozzászólása:

The current trilogy lacks consistency, and is hardly meme worthy. If any memes do come from it, then they'll carry negative connotations, unlike many previous SW memes. I also highly doubt anything good will come from it either. No good games, no decent side-stories, no lore, pretty much nothing.

The future cannot be predicted by mere spectators. The future depends on what we do. You might merely sit on your behind and criticise and do nothing productive, but I will certainly continue to trumpet the wisdom of The Last Jedi.

I'll be a bit blunt... That was cringey AF.

TLJ has no "wisdom". In-fact, it's a pretender. It wants you to think it's "deep", but there's nothing to it. And you fell right into the trap.

[black mesa security]

ℛaveÐƵ eredeti hozzászólása:

CHE eredeti hozzászólása:

The future cannot be predicted by mere spectators. The future depends on what we do. You might merely sit on your behind and criticise and do nothing productive, but I will certainly continue to trumpet the wisdom of The Last Jedi.

I'll be a bit blunt... That was cringey AF.

TLJ has no "wisdom". In-fact, it's a pretender. It wants you to think it's "deep", but there's nothing to it. And you fell right into the trap.

the only thing deep in TLJ was the plot holes i should now because an entire ship fell into one and never came back up

[Dread Pony Roberts]

AAC-1 eredeti hozzászólása:

ℛaveÐƵ eredeti hozzászólása:

I'll be a bit blunt... That was cringey AF.

TLJ has no "wisdom". In-fact, it's a pretender. It wants you to think it's "deep", but there's nothing to it. And you fell right into the trap.

the only thing deep in TLJ was the plot holes i should now because an entire ship fell into one and never came back up

Watch those plot holes!

[black mesa security]

Stede Bonnet the pirate eredeti hozzászólása:

AAC-1 eredeti hozzászólása:

the only thing deep in TLJ was the plot holes i should now because an entire ship fell into one and never came back up

Watch those plot holes!

you should of told that to the corellian bunker buster it showed up in the movie nexts to vice admiral gender studies flag ship then it just disapeared didnt even get blown up

[black mesa security]

https://youtu.be/HMHcPDBuyUA
rip nuke corvett fell into a plot hole never to be seen again

[вαтαк]

Last Jedi was Meh just give me a Movie about Delta Squad from Republic Commando and make it R.

[Dread Pony Roberts]

Just to be clear, my problem is not that there is are strong female characters, but that there are FORCED strong female characters.



A good strong female character is one who works off of the other characters, is a good character on their own, and must not be above the other characters for no good reason. It also works best if the story would change greatly if she was a he.

A forced strong female character is one who is place above characters (usually male characters) for no good reason, is usually boring character on their own, and the story wouldn't much at all if she was a he.


Some good examples of good strong female characters are Ahsoka Tano, Wyldstyle (Lego Movie), Leia Organa, Ellen Ripley (Alien), and Padme Amidala.


A great science fiction show (that Disney owns) with good strong female characters is Wander Over Yonder. Sylvia works well as a mother figure for Wander and a rival/temorary companion to Commander Peepers, and Lord Dominator works well as a rival/lover to Lord Hater (at least he hopes that she loves him). If Disney learned one thing from that show it should have been how to make a great strong female character, too bad they shut it down.

[Jambie Lionheart]

I liked VII but VIII kinda sucked and the fact that Han Solo died pissed me off T.T It looks good but the story line just sucks, it's not a worthy StarWars plot... No Depth, little character, the acting isn't bad at all but the immature plot line itself kills any of the meaningful acting behind the scenes... and don't even get me started on Jedi VS Sithlord fight sequences... They could have done sooooo much more with it. Disney needs to be tossed over the edge along with Sidious... Out of a window will do too. Prefereably a high one. Haven't watched IX yet though so I'll view that one before hanging them entirely...