Why is this considered better than BF1 2004?

[Tsar Butterfly]

Bells and whistles like space battles and playing as a Jedi/Sith don't matter when the maps are inferior and the gunplay is a complete downgrade when compared to BF1.

[LordZeusCannon]

IT's NOT. Star Wars Battlefront (2004) is superior to this game in every way. the graphics are better, the gameplay is better, and if you got the actual game (non-steam version) it also has built in aim assist for controllers. I have yet to find a way to use this game's built-in aim assist with a controller. I'm guessing this is a remake of the original game and for some reason they didn't include aim assist which is a shame. Aim Assist is completely necessary for SWB and SWB2

[=CrimsoN=]

LordZeusCannon eredeti hozzászólása:

IT's NOT. Star Wars Battlefront (2004) is superior to this game in every way. the graphics are better, the gameplay is better, and if you got the actual game (non-steam version) it also has built in aim assist for controllers. I have yet to find a way to use this game's built-in aim assist with a controller. I'm guessing this is a remake of the original game and for some reason they didn't include aim assist which is a shame. Aim Assist is completely necessary for SWB and SWB2

Only time I've ever needed aim assist was when I played Battlefront classic on console. I've never needed it on PC. In fact, I'd say its more of a hindrance than anything because mouse and keyboard will always be more accurate than a controller.

[gamerjolt]

LordZeusCannon eredeti hozzászólása:

IT's NOT. Star Wars Battlefront (2004) is superior to this game in every way. the graphics are better, the gameplay is better, and if you got the actual game (non-steam version) it also has built in aim assist for controllers. I have yet to find a way to use this game's built-in aim assist with a controller. I'm guessing this is a remake of the original game and for some reason they didn't include aim assist which is a shame. Aim Assist is completely necessary for SWB and SWB2

A large margin of people however play these games with keyboard rather than controller though. They should add aim assist to this game but one aspect the first game has doesn't make it better than the second one.

[carlospaul]

RC-1138 eredeti hozzászólása:

Except it's not, one word for you. C a m p a i g n. Oh and modding community.

why isn't it better, it has more features

[LordZeusCannon]

gamerjolt90 eredeti hozzászólása:

LordZeusCannon eredeti hozzászólása:

IT's NOT. Star Wars Battlefront (2004) is superior to this game in every way. the graphics are better, the gameplay is better, and if you got the actual game (non-steam version) it also has built in aim assist for controllers. I have yet to find a way to use this game's built-in aim assist with a controller. I'm guessing this is a remake of the original game and for some reason they didn't include aim assist which is a shame. Aim Assist is completely necessary for SWB and SWB2

A large margin of people however play these games with keyboard rather than controller though. They should add aim assist to this game but one aspect the first game has doesn't make it better than the second one.

Star Wars Battlefront 1 &2 were always known as console games. it definitely requires all the features it originally had, otherwise i might as well just dig out my ps2 or fix my ps3 so i can upscale it to 1080p

[gamerjolt]

Yes, I understand they are console games and I agree aim assist features should be added for those that play on controller, but this game was also originally released on PC as well. Features such as Aim assist should be added but this one feature doesn't make it worse then the original since the original game has it's own short-comings compared to the second game.

[Lukas]

I always had the memory of the first game being better than the second one. I just reinstalled it and I confirmed I was right. The game was better in most ways (even the AI seemed better). BF2 was better in terms of movement (they also removed the prone stance, but by doing so they fixed one annoying bug or quirk the first game had). I also didn't remember the first game having better graphics, but somehow it did...

I believe most people who consider the second game to be so good never actually played the first one (there are always exceptions tho).

I guess BF2 was better in that it had couch coop (on consoles), which is the way I mostly played it back in my highschool days on PS2.
It seems weird the second game had new maps and space battles (which I never liked that much), but removed maps and some features from the first.

I love both, but I do consider the first one to be better, at least on PC and as a Singleplayer experience. As for consoles, I think BF2 is better just for the added coop functionality.

[=CrimsoN=]

Lukasoss eredeti hozzászólása:

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I do agree with you in regards to AI. Especially vehicle AI in the first Battlefront. There isn't really any proper aerial vehicle AI in Battlefront 2 since it's just the space combat AI. So the AI tends to crash a lot. In the first Battlefront, the AI could do things like flying an LAAT and landing troops closer to the battlefield or flying around on Bespin and capturing the command posts on various landing pads. They could even perform bombing runs with the TIE Bomber and Y-Wing. Especially prevalent on Kashyyyk - Islands.

But as someone else stated, they are two different beasts. I like how the first Battlefront wasn't as concerned with balance. I really miss vehicle splash damage. I still play the first Battlefront to this day because of the fact that vehicles don't suck complete ass. Battles also felt larger by default. In Battlefront 2 most you can get is 32 bots (without mods). But in the first Battlefront it was 50 bots total split between both factions. Also the AI was also way less command post crazy. Battlefront 2 feels like a game of musical command post on a majority of the maps.

[carlospaul]

It seems there are good points to both sides of the argument.

[Lukas]

Yes, I guess it's just one of those cases where it comes down to preference of the things you considered important. But I was, indeed, surprised to find out the graphics and AI were better in the first game. A surprise, to be sure, but a welcomed one :) .

[LordZeusCannon]

Lukasoss eredeti hozzászólása:

I always had the memory of the first game being better than the second one. I just reinstalled it and I confirmed I was right. The game was better in most ways (even the AI seemed better). BF2 was better in terms of movement (they also removed the prone stance, but by doing so they fixed one annoying bug or quirk the first game had). I also didn't remember the first game having better graphics, but somehow it did...

I believe most people who consider the second game to be so good never actually played the first one (there are always exceptions tho).

I guess BF2 was better in that it had couch coop (on consoles), which is the way I mostly played it back in my highschool days on PS2.
It seems weird the second game had new maps and space battles (which I never liked that much), but removed maps and some features from the first.

I love both, but I do consider the first one to be better, at least on PC and as a Singleplayer experience. As for consoles, I think BF2 is better just for the added coop functionality.

yup just like i said. the first battlefront is superior to the second in every way

[LordZeusCannon]

Nope. Battlefront 2 is half the game that BF1 is. They were forced to scrap BF2 together in under a year which is why it's so bad vs BF1 which they were allowed to take their time making . They didn't care how BF2 turned out, people wanted a second game and they gave it to them. Even though it's not even worth playing unless you're playing heroes and villains on Mos Eisley

[=CrimsoN=]

LordZeusCannon eredeti hozzászólása:

Nope. Battlefront 2 is half the game that BF1 is. They were forced to scrap BF2 together in under a year which is why it's so bad vs BF1 which they were allowed to take their time making . They didn't care how BF2 turned out, people wanted a second game and they gave it to them. Even though it's not even worth playing unless you're playing heroes and villains on Mos Eisley

okay thats just too much. It's not THAT bad of a game. Still easily in my top 10 best Star Wars games of all time and definitely WAYYYYYYYYY above EA's Battlefront. Like I said in a previous post. It's better to look at Battlefront 2 as a different beast entirely. The first Battlefront is great if you're looking for immersion. It's balanced towards that. You feel vulnerable. Weapons are deadly, you can't sprint, no playing as nearly invulnerable heroes, vehicles are scary, etc.

Battlefront 2 went in the more game-y direction. Much more balance. No class really feels overpowered. Maps are significantly more balanced (minus Hoth). Sprint and playable heroes. Space battles were also an awesome edition. I know you don't like them, but I loved them and still do. Also Galactic Conquest is way better in Battlefront 2. But its two different, but still great games.

Battlefront 1 for the immersion. Battlefront 2 for the balance, space battles and heroes.

[LordZeusCannon]

They definitely did not achieve that goal. I play BF2 maybe once a year on ps2. I play BF1 at least a couple times a week still on PC, ps2 or ps3. I have more hours in the 1st game than any other game I've ever played combined. When I was really young I'd play it like 8 hours a day during the summer and several hours after school so I can tell you nothing tops the first game. The second is only related by name alone. The most annoying part of the second game is there's no aim assist, at least not on the steam version here. I launch the first game (non steam) and controller works just like it does on ps2. Flawless. Best game ever

[=CrimsoN=]

RC-1138 eredeti hozzászólása:

Aim assist doesn't make a game with 100 other good things bad, so far all your saying is because there's no aim assist BF2 sucks, meanwhile it has space combat, one of the best campaigns in any star wars game, and great mod support. It doesn't change the fact that BF2 is far superior in every way to BF1.

Yeah I don't know what that guys obsession with aim assist is. They seem to be ignoring literally every other argument for how Battlefront 2 is a great Star Wars game only because it doesn't have aim assist (which is more of a hindrance on PC anyway). Since mouse and keyboard will always be more accurate.