Why is it overly expensive ?

[Topologic]

Literally the only thing I can buy in this game are structure decks, everything else seems like a scam, why do you have to spend over a $200 to get 3 of URs from a box?
I spent 20$ on 3x BEWD stucture deck, it's good but I'm getting bored from playing it.

And please for the love of God, don't tell me that character's upgrades and stage mission give enough gems to build multiple decks, a 1000 gem can only get you 20 packs and chances are the good cards will always be in the very bottom (actually, it's not a chance, I'm pretty sure Konami has the packs lottery rigged to be that way), so you can easily waste 1k gems on garbage cards that you already owned before.

just how are you supposed to play this game while spending moderately, if each month a new box will come that power creeps the old decks? does Konami expect us to shed like $100 every month for this?

[electricwizard]

Yesterday I spent 500 gems (10 packs) on the Shark Fang box, I got Stratos on my 4th pack and Shark Drake on my 10th pack, and I wasn't even looking for Stratos (I saw many vids digging for it). I did a small ritual dance to appease the konami spirits beforehand but still.

It is hard to get a decent deck without breaking the bank, you're right. I'm f2p and the only deck worth mentioning I got through gems only was the D/D/D one.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

You don't have to spend a single dime on this game, spending money is nothing more than a waste

Lol leveling up characters and stage missions does give you enough gems to make a meta competent deck, not hard at all to make multiple decks being a F2P meta or non meta. It's called RNG and it's not rigged, you either get the stuff you want quickly or slowly it's all chance

It's called "learn how to be F2P" which again isn't hard remotely if you know what you are doing, maybe if you are a complete noob to the game then it will be tough but otherwise it's not hard. Also new boxes haven't power crept at all, all of the tiered stuff comes from decks that have old cards or came out last year or got new support recently. We haven't had power creep in so many months, hell the last time power creep was an issue was first time WC

Maybe if you didn't bother spending money you wouldn't bother making this topic, cause so far it just shows you not understanding how to be a F2P and wanting to complain about a KONAMI game being too expensive, of course it's too expensive it's KONAMI

[Topologic]

Originally posted by Burning Victory:

Lol leveling up characters and stage missions does give you enough gems to make a meta competent deck, not hard at all to make multiple decks being a F2P meta or non meta. It's called RNG and it's not rigged, you either get the stuff you want quickly or slowly it's all chance

Are you delusional or what?! I can send you screenshots of the number of people who got Trunade or Fusion Gate or CC or BoM in the very last box ! RNG my ass !


"Also new boxes haven't power crept at all"
another BS claim, Noble Knights or the recent BEWD haven't affected the meta at all according to you, nice joke.
If the new boxes won't power creep the old decks, then the banlist will do that.

"not understanding how to be F2P"
I don't want to open new accounts and grind all over again every time I finish the missions and upgrade the characters, now here's how many gems you need to build some decks, just so someone else won't repeat me the same lie "you can build many decks being F2P".

from duellinksmeta.com

Thunder Dragons (Tier 2) – 59,000 gems
Witchcrafter (Tier 3) – 54,000 gems
Blackwings (Tier 3) – 60,000 gems
Invoked Neos (Tier 2) – 69,000 gems + $4
Gouki (Tier 3) – 63,000 gems

[Topologic]

Originally posted by electricwizard:

Yesterday I spent 500 gems (10 packs) on the Shark Fang box, I got Stratos on my 4th pack and Shark Drake on my 10th pack, and I wasn't even looking for Stratos (I saw many vids digging for it). I did a small ritual dance to appease the konami spirits beforehand but still.

It is hard to get a decent deck without breaking the bank, you're right. I'm f2p and the only deck worth mentioning I got through gems only was the D/D/D one.

Thanks, It's so hard to find someone honest in this community!

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Originally posted by khaledbouhedadja:

Originally posted by Burning Victory:

Lol leveling up characters and stage missions does give you enough gems to make a meta competent deck, not hard at all to make multiple decks being a F2P meta or non meta. It's called RNG and it's not rigged, you either get the stuff you want quickly or slowly it's all chance

Are you delusional or what?! I can send you screenshots of the number of people who got Trunade or Fusion Gate or CC or BoM in the very last box ! RNG my ass !


"Also new boxes haven't power crept at all"
another BS claim, Noble Knights or the recent BEWD haven't affected the meta at all according to you, nice joke.
If the new boxes won't power creep the old decks, then the banlist will do that.

"not understanding how to be F2P"
I don't want to open new accounts and grind all over again every time I finish the missions and upgrade the characters, now here's how many gems you need to build some decks, just so someone else won't repeat me the same lie "you can build many decks being F2P".

from duellinksmeta.com

Thunder Dragons (Tier 2) – 59,000 gems
Witchcrafter (Tier 3) – 54,000 gems
Blackwings (Tier 3) – 60,000 gems
Invoked Neos (Tier 2) – 69,000 gems + $4
Gouki (Tier 3) – 63,000 gems

Wow people got those cards very last, meanwhile I get a WC UR very first 10 packs, examples don't prove anything really

NK got a new SD and box, BEWD hasn't gotten a box in a year and only a SD and a freebie, guess what neither of which powercrept the game, BEWD is a fad deck that will probably fade in a month or 2 and NK is counterable. You clearly don't know what real powercreep is. Banlist only causes powercreep if it sucks or gets rid of decks that actually powercrept. Also you wanna only focus now but what about the months prior? Guess what you will find, nothing cause last time was WC which was months ago

Lol who said you had to open new accounts? Also why the hell are you only focusing on characters and stage missions? Did you forget the quizzes exist or PvP or events? At this point you full on admit you never played the game since we have a event rn giving out gems and a new character for those who didn't unlock him, and the special campaign to add

Lol a very trusted sight, where the people who post stuff on their aren't F2P, why do you think they have x3 of the Selection Box cards on release? Also WC is clearly wrong, it takes 9k to complete an entire box key word entire which you don't do unless you truly have bad luck, you need at most x2 of the main boss monster and x3 of the other UR which guess what you can do, use a DT on it, in total at max this is 18k. Guess what the majority of WC decks on DLM use WC cards for nearly all of it with a little bit of backrow removal and some free stuff. WC isn't 54k that's blatantly false and they know it, but then again P2Ws want to tell a F2P what is actual F2P and what isn't

[𝓝𝓲𝓬𝓸𝓵𝓪𝓼]

Originally posted by Burning Victory:

Originally posted by khaledbouhedadja:

Are you delusional or what?! I can send you screenshots of the number of people who got Trunade or Fusion Gate or CC or BoM in the very last box ! RNG my ass !


"Also new boxes haven't power crept at all"
another BS claim, Noble Knights or the recent BEWD haven't affected the meta at all according to you, nice joke.
If the new boxes won't power creep the old decks, then the banlist will do that.

"not understanding how to be F2P"
I don't want to open new accounts and grind all over again every time I finish the missions and upgrade the characters, now here's how many gems you need to build some decks, just so someone else won't repeat me the same lie "you can build many decks being F2P".

from duellinksmeta.com

Thunder Dragons (Tier 2) – 59,000 gems
Witchcrafter (Tier 3) – 54,000 gems
Blackwings (Tier 3) – 60,000 gems
Invoked Neos (Tier 2) – 69,000 gems + $4
Gouki (Tier 3) – 63,000 gems

Wow people got those cards very last, meanwhile I get a WC UR very first 10 packs, examples don't prove anything really

NK got a new SD and box, BEWD hasn't gotten a box in a year and only a SD and a freebie, guess what neither of which powercrept the game, BEWD is a fad deck that will probably fade in a month or 2 and NK is counterable. You clearly don't know what real powercreep is. Banlist only causes powercreep if it sucks or gets rid of decks that actually powercrept. Also you wanna only focus now but what about the months prior? Guess what you will find, nothing cause last time was WC which was months ago

Lol who said you had to open new accounts? Also why the hell are you only focusing on characters and stage missions? Did you forget the quizzes exist or PvP or events? At this point you full on admit you never played the game since we have a event rn giving out gems and a new character for those who didn't unlock him, and the special campaign to add

Lol a very trusted sight, where the people who post stuff on their aren't F2P, why do you think they have x3 of the Selection Box cards on release? Also WC is clearly wrong, it takes 9k to complete an entire box key word entire which you don't do unless you truly have bad luck, you need at most x2 of the main boss monster and x3 of the other UR which guess what you can do, use a DT on it, in total at max this is 18k. Guess what the majority of WC decks on DLM use WC cards for nearly all of it with a little bit of backrow removal and some free stuff. WC isn't 54k that's blatantly false and they know it, but then again P2Ws want to tell a F2P what is actual F2P and what isn't :portalbirdhead:

Originally posted by electricwizard:

Yesterday I spent 500 gems (10 packs) on the Shark Fang box, I got Stratos on my 4th pack and Shark Drake on my 10th pack, and I wasn't even looking for Stratos (I saw many vids digging for it). I did a small ritual dance to appease the konami spirits beforehand but still.

It is hard to get a decent deck without breaking the bank, you're right. I'm f2p and the only deck worth mentioning I got through gems only was the D/D/D one.

It doesn't matter in the end, the time you spent grinding could have been spent working for real money that can be invested into the game. If you look at it realistically, it comes down to who has the most time or money. Grinding in this game is extremely boring so might as well be a productive member to society and spend the excess money to catch up with the "meta" even more easily amiright.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Originally posted by 𝓝𝓲𝓬𝓸𝓵𝓪𝓼:

Originally posted by Burning Victory:

Wow people got those cards very last, meanwhile I get a WC UR very first 10 packs, examples don't prove anything really

NK got a new SD and box, BEWD hasn't gotten a box in a year and only a SD and a freebie, guess what neither of which powercrept the game, BEWD is a fad deck that will probably fade in a month or 2 and NK is counterable. You clearly don't know what real powercreep is. Banlist only causes powercreep if it sucks or gets rid of decks that actually powercrept. Also you wanna only focus now but what about the months prior? Guess what you will find, nothing cause last time was WC which was months ago

Lol who said you had to open new accounts? Also why the hell are you only focusing on characters and stage missions? Did you forget the quizzes exist or PvP or events? At this point you full on admit you never played the game since we have a event rn giving out gems and a new character for those who didn't unlock him, and the special campaign to add

Lol a very trusted sight, where the people who post stuff on their aren't F2P, why do you think they have x3 of the Selection Box cards on release? Also WC is clearly wrong, it takes 9k to complete an entire box key word entire which you don't do unless you truly have bad luck, you need at most x2 of the main boss monster and x3 of the other UR which guess what you can do, use a DT on it, in total at max this is 18k. Guess what the majority of WC decks on DLM use WC cards for nearly all of it with a little bit of backrow removal and some free stuff. WC isn't 54k that's blatantly false and they know it, but then again P2Ws want to tell a F2P what is actual F2P and what isn't

Originally posted by electricwizard:

Yesterday I spent 500 gems (10 packs) on the Shark Fang box, I got Stratos on my 4th pack and Shark Drake on my 10th pack, and I wasn't even looking for Stratos (I saw many vids digging for it). I did a small ritual dance to appease the konami spirits beforehand but still.

It is hard to get a decent deck without breaking the bank, you're right. I'm f2p and the only deck worth mentioning I got through gems only was the D/D/D one.

It doesn't matter in the end, the time you spent grinding could have been spent working for real money that can be invested into the game. If you look at it realistically, it comes down to who has the most time or money. Grinding in this game is extremely boring so might as well be a productive member to society and spend the excess money to catch up with the "meta" even more easily amiright.

Or I continue playing for at most 3 hours a day on the game and not spend a single dime cause realistically this game is dead soon and will be replaced by a new Speed Duel game, once that happens all the money you used will have been wasted. Plus if I had the money to waste on this game why would I waste it on this game? There is so much better stuff out there to use money on

[1WingedAngel]

The game is very free to play friendly, you just need to be careful with your gems and somewhat selective about what boxes you dig into, and what you spend tickets on etc.

As has already been hinted at, getting the most out of F2P currency will require a significant investment of time (autoduel will become your friend, I'd recomend getting a konami ID and having the game on your phone as well, so you don't have to use your actual PC for grinding events) but even then, it's more more F2P friendly than something like Hearthstone or MTG Arena.

The structure decks are a good deal, as you know exactly what cards you're getting for the money, and some sales are worthwhile too, every now and then they have a $1 UR sale, which is a great deal considering the average cost of a UR when buying packs.

But aside from that, I think buying packs is a massive waste and agree it is way too expensive for what you're actually getting. Selection boxes in particular are terrible value, the people who just paid £200-£300 for 3x book of moon need their heads checked imo.

As an example of just how expensive it is to open a main box just by buying packs, the guy who runs duellinksmeta.com recently had his steam account blocked while live streaming a box openeing as they thought he was a victim of fraud, due to the amount he was spoending...

[Orochi Samurai]

These arguments are always so brain dead, Victory is right, each character gives well over 1000 gems and can hit level 32 in around 2 hours of content grind, less if on 1.5x xp, it is not hard to build a meta deck as a f2p player if you put in the effort, your problem is, you're impatient, end of story, RNG plays a big part in this sure, but that's gacha games for you, deal with it.

[76561199120906913]

Gacha games are designed to milk suckers. The goal is to spend your gems and dream tickets wisely or continue to make new accounts to get your gems backs. Spending money on Structure Decks and Bundle Packs is the next best option.

[Papa Shekels]

Originally posted by khaledbouhedadja:

Are you delusional or what?! I can send you screenshots of the number of people who got Trunade or Fusion Gate or CC or BoM in the very last box ! RNG my ass !

Please do, I would love to see any evidence of this that isn't laughable. There will always be salty people who don't understand how rng or statistics work. I was trying to get a copy of arcana knight joker and de-fusion for a stupid deck idea and the game instead decided to give me some garbage floodgate trap hole or something in the first 10 packs. The only 180-card packs I can recall that took me until the last 20 to give me the UR I wanted were blue eyes ultimate dragon and meteor black dragon. I guess those must be the new meta cards if the game is rigged to give them to me so late...

As to the actual topic, yes, it's expensive. Real money conversion rate compared to what you can get in-game from events, challenges, and character leveling is pathetic. Like all gacha games, it's not meant for the average person to spend money on it, only the whales who can afford to throw hundreds/thousands with a possibility of not getting anything useful in return

[Lazy Dog Daddy]

Tbh with how much pve content and event is packed in this game , i wouldn't actually have bought packs .

I did so on the UR sales and for 2 structure decks over the years . That money was earned by selling blue boxes for Rust Skins at 15$ each mind you ...

Its not duel links itself thats expensive , its just about everything related to gaming thats expensive ... just gotta "shop" wisely :(

[Sweets]

You need to also add in the frequent ultra rare and super rare tickets that let you get the exact cards you need for a majority of decks
You also need factor in all the rank rewards for challenging yourself to reach the highest ranks of all the events and quest we get

Mean yeah your gonna hit a money wall but by no means is this game stingy on free cards if you do not believe me play Shadowverse and tell me how expensive yu-gi-oh is compared