Duel Links is actually rigged

[Cotton Hill]

so i know this really isnt anything new. people already know that drawing and starting hands are rigged in favor of rarity in cards. this isnt about that.

this is about how the game forces you to play against unfavorable opponents to make you lose.
what made me want to test this is because of recent duels ive been getting matched up against.
heres what happend and heres what i found.

so i was playing a gravekeeper necrovally anti meta deck. and i climbed up to like platnium 3. no problem, but then i started to plateau. i started facing opponents using different wacky decks that were not consistent at all, and seems to be perfect counters to what i had conveniently.

so i decided to switch it up. i started to play lava golem ammazon burn. AS SOON as i switched to that deck. 10 times in a row i faced mirror matches with wevil lava golem. keep in mind i havent faced lava golem not even ONCE my whole climb through platinum. but out of nowhere the game matches me up with mirror matches and other slow player burn decks as soon as i try????

then i switched back to using the old deck. and then everything went back to normal. and im still getting matched up against counters.

in conclusion this game is an absolute rigged. no matter what you do your gonna get forced to lose.

dont even try to play ranked seriously its a joke.

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

how come there are so many KoGs then? KoGs with Aliens, Darklords, BEWD, Amazoness, Stromberg and so on and so forth.
Make a list of the decks you faced (what you remember) and post them please, what are the exact counters you speak of? To make claims like this you need data to back it up, so please provide us with some data, no screenshots required i'll believe you and try to find a reasoning as to why that is and if i fail to find a consistency in all of them and others do too you'Re prob correct but please try to stay as accurate as possible and don't make stuff up bc right now i could give oyu links to several hundred different decks that made it to KoG that are anti-meta, rogue or even fun decks.

[Satanyonok]

Цитата допису ||eXz|| _sNTx // 構文:

right now i could give oyu links to several hundred different decks that made it to KoG that are anti-meta, rogue or even fun decks.

Several hundred? Where did you find so many?

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

Цитата допису Satanyonok:

Цитата допису ||eXz|| _sNTx // 構文:

right now i could give oyu links to several hundred different decks that made it to KoG that are anti-meta, rogue or even fun decks.

Several hundred? Where did you find so many?

overexaggerating ^^ but i should still be able to find quite a lot, DLM-Discord, DLM-homepage, Reddit, GameA to name a few sources.

[Orochi Samurai]

Цитата допису Satanyonok:

Цитата допису ||eXz|| _sNTx // 構文:

right now i could give oyu links to several hundred different decks that made it to KoG that are anti-meta, rogue or even fun decks.

Several hundred? Where did you find so many?

because there are loads of variations of the same decks, they may have the same focus however, the cards will vary thus drastically changing draw hands and play styles, you know what was meant, dont be a *enis

[Satanyonok]

Цитата допису Just A Random Video Gamer:

Цитата допису Satanyonok:

Several hundred? Where did you find so many?

you know what was meant, dont be a *enis

No I don't and i'm not being a penis.

[Cotton Hill]

Цитата допису ||eXz|| _sNTx // 構文:

how come there are so many KoGs then? KoGs with Aliens, Darklords, BEWD, Amazoness, Stromberg and so on and so forth.
Make a list of the decks you faced (what you remember) and post them please, what are the exact counters you speak of? To make claims like this you need data to back it up, so please provide us with some data, no screenshots required i'll believe you and try to find a reasoning as to why that is and if i fail to find a consistency in all of them and others do too you'Re prob correct but please try to stay as accurate as possible and don't make stuff up bc right now i could give oyu links to several hundred different decks that made it to KoG that are anti-meta, rogue or even fun decks.

i find it hard to believe that even a 1/3 of that many decks could make it into KOG in the state of the game currently.
also the reason you see so many diffrent decks at KOG is because people just mess around at that rank. there is no reason to keep winning once you reach KOG. its how you get to KOG most people just play the meta, and then once they get to KOG they switch to an actual fun deck.
( also blue is meta now so i dont know why you consider it rouge?)

anyways
here are the decks from the pvp history that i faced using necrovally gravekeepers.( ive simplified them) around plat 3

1st six sam generic/ 2nd six sam generic/ 3 red eyes/
then it changes to counter me. 4 amazon 5 silent swordsman with jinzo/ 6th blackwings/ 7th ancient gears/

switched to lava golem burn using thunder vassal and amazon.

wevil lava golem and odion in the mix 7 times alternating all with lava golem in there decks and utilizing some kind of stall.

ive noticed stuff like this in the past. ive played the game since release. but its just more obvious as the games meta get more advanced.

[Satanyonok]

Цитата допису Flats:

Цитата допису ||eXz|| _sNTx // 構文:

how come there are so many KoGs then? KoGs with Aliens, Darklords, BEWD, Amazoness, Stromberg and so on and so forth.
Make a list of the decks you faced (what you remember) and post them please, what are the exact counters you speak of? To make claims like this you need data to back it up, so please provide us with some data, no screenshots required i'll believe you and try to find a reasoning as to why that is and if i fail to find a consistency in all of them and others do too you'Re prob correct but please try to stay as accurate as possible and don't make stuff up bc right now i could give oyu links to several hundred different decks that made it to KoG that are anti-meta, rogue or even fun decks.

also the reason you see so many diffrent decks at KOG is because people just mess around at that rank.

Dude, he's obviously talking about decks that people use to reach kog, not decks that people use when they already reached it. And if you didn't reach 120 wins then there's actually a reason to win in kog.

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

Цитата допису Flats:

i find it hard to believe that even a 1/3 of that many decks could make it into KOG in the state of the game currently.
also the reason you see so many diffrent decks at KOG is because people just mess around at that rank. there is no reason to keep winning once you reach KOG. its how you get to KOG most people just play the meta, and then once they get to KOG they switch to an actual fun deck.
( also blue is meta now so i dont know why you consider it rouge?)

anyways
here are the decks from the pvp history that i faced using necrovally gravekeepers.( ive simplified them) around plat 3

1st six sam generic/ 2nd six sam generic/ 3 red eyes/
then it changes to counter me. 4 amazon 5 silent swordsman with jinzo/ 6th blackwings/ 7th ancient gears/

switched to lava golem burn using thunder vassal and amazon.

wevil lava golem and odion in the mix 7 times alternating all with lava golem in there decks and utilizing some kind of stall.

ive noticed stuff like this in the past. ive played the game since release. but its just more obvious as the games meta get more advanced.

As stated above i was overexaggerating but trust me there really are quite a lot of decks that made it to KoG and yes i know i don't make assumptions based off on the games i played in KoG i'm looking at the verified KoG Decklists on duellinksmeta.com, the duellinksmeta discord and reddit mainly.

If you don't mind here a quick list of some not all:
Six Sams, Neos, Ancient Gears, Blue Eyes, Koa'ki, Amazoness, Red-Eyes, Cyberdark, Vampires, Masked Hero, Spellbooks, Buster Blader, Noble Knights, Darklords, Deskbots, Monarchs, Stromberg, Synchros, Ritual Nephthys (not Yubel), Yubel, Lava Golem/Stall and Burn, Buijin, Gem-Knights, Lavals, Ojama, SSA, Dinos, Gemini, Gladiator Beasts, Toon, Red-Eyes Toon, Inzektors, Aliens

trust me there are more but you get the idea.

Anyways let's see, Six Sams and Red-Eyes are def meta so nothing wrong with that, they find plays very often. Silent Swordsman with Jinzo is kinda out there but i think Dekayed played a deck like this on stream and maybe made a video about it as well, so it can happen but ok i consider that as a point for you, Blackwings on the other hand are something i've never seen before.
Weevil and Odion stalls are pretty common as well, the problem is that stall is the best answer to the current meta, so many matchups in a row are def uncommon but not unheard of, imo.

Mhm, the problem is, while it looks weird on paper, it's hard to say if it's really that uncommon, i'd like some more samples maybe from other players who are not in KoG btw if you don't mind me asking but how hard is it to get to plat 3? If it's relatively easy it would at least explain why you played against Blackwings even tho i don't see them as a pure counter to Gravekeepers, yes they are not a great matchup for you since they don't do anything with cards in their grave but overall this should just be a regular match-up or is there something i don't get? And Red-Eyes is actually a good matchup or not? I mean Red-Eyes beat you in raw stats but Necrovalley would counter Red-Slash, Return of Red Eyes and Spirit or am i really missing something here?

[Cotton Hill]

Цитата допису ||eXz|| _sNTx // 構文:

Цитата допису Flats:

i find it hard to believe that even a 1/3 of that many decks could make it into KOG in the state of the game currently.
also the reason you see so many diffrent decks at KOG is because people just mess around at that rank. there is no reason to keep winning once you reach KOG. its how you get to KOG most people just play the meta, and then once they get to KOG they switch to an actual fun deck.
( also blue is meta now so i dont know why you consider it rouge?)

anyways
here are the decks from the pvp history that i faced using necrovally gravekeepers.( ive simplified them) around plat 3

1st six sam generic/ 2nd six sam generic/ 3 red eyes/
then it changes to counter me. 4 amazon 5 silent swordsman with jinzo/ 6th blackwings/ 7th ancient gears/

switched to lava golem burn using thunder vassal and amazon.

wevil lava golem and odion in the mix 7 times alternating all with lava golem in there decks and utilizing some kind of stall.

ive noticed stuff like this in the past. ive played the game since release. but its just more obvious as the games meta get more advanced.

As stated above i was overexaggerating but trust me there really are quite a lot of decks that made it to KoG and yes i know i don't make assumptions based off on the games i played in KoG i'm looking at the verified KoG Decklists on duellinksmeta.com, the duellinksmeta discord and reddit mainly.

If you don't mind here a quick list of some not all:
Six Sams, Neos, Ancient Gears, Blue Eyes, Koa'ki, Amazoness, Red-Eyes, Cyberdark, Vampires, Masked Hero, Spellbooks, Buster Blader, Noble Knights, Darklords, Deskbots, Monarchs, Stromberg, Synchros, Ritual Nephthys (not Yubel), Yubel, Lava Golem/Stall and Burn, Buijin, Gem-Knights, Lavals, Ojama, SSA, Dinos, Gemini, Gladiator Beasts, Toon, Red-Eyes Toon, Inzektors, Aliens

trust me there are more but you get the idea.

Anyways let's see, Six Sams and Red-Eyes are def meta so nothing wrong with that, they find plays very often. Silent Swordsman with Jinzo is kinda out there but i think Dekayed played a deck like this on stream and maybe made a video about it as well, so it can happen but ok i consider that as a point for you, Blackwings on the other hand are something i've never seen before.
Weevil and Odion stalls are pretty common as well, the problem is that stall is the best answer to the current meta, so many matchups in a row are def uncommon but not unheard of, imo.

Mhm, the problem is, while it looks weird on paper, it's hard to say if it's really that uncommon, i'd like some more samples maybe from other players who are not in KoG btw if you don't mind me asking but how hard is it to get to plat 3? If it's relatively easy it would at least explain why you played against Blackwings even tho i don't see them as a pure counter to Gravekeepers, yes they are not a great matchup for you since they don't do anything with cards in their grave but overall this should just be a regular match-up or is there something i don't get? And Red-Eyes is actually a good matchup or not? I mean Red-Eyes beat you in raw stats but Necrovalley would counter Red-Slash, Return of Red Eyes and Spirit or am i really missing something here?

heres my gravekeeper deck.

skill sealed tombs

silent magican level 8 x 1
silent magican x 3
gravekeeper recruiter x3
gravekeepr priestess x3
gravekeeper assailant x1
gravekeeper
necrovally x 1 (i only have one:( )
demise of land x 1 ( kinda weird card lets you activate necrovalley from the deck if opponent special summons. it works at least often.)
night beam x1 ( only backrow removal but silent magican negates spells so...)
drowning mirror force x2
paleozoic canadia x 1
divine wrath x2
wall of distuption x 1

20 card deck anti meta has all the support you really need yet ive had trouble climbing to legend which is odd. is this really not KOG worthy? do i need a second copy of necrovally?

[Kero Kero]

Цитата допису ||eXz|| _sNTx // 構文:

how come there are so many KoGs then? KoGs with Aliens, Darklords, BEWD, Amazoness, Stromberg and so on and so forth.
Make a list of the decks you faced (what you remember) and post them please, what are the exact counters you speak of? To make claims like this you need data to back it up, so please provide us with some data, no screenshots required i'll believe you and try to find a reasoning as to why that is and if i fail to find a consistency in all of them and others do too you'Re prob correct but please try to stay as accurate as possible and don't make stuff up bc right now i could give oyu links to several hundred different decks that made it to KoG that are anti-meta, rogue or even fun decks.

What reason does he have to lie ?

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

Add a Owl of Luck maybe?
reduce drowning to just 1, i see it's appeal but imo it can cause too many dead draws.
use Visionary as a second boss/ace, maybe a copy of Stele (maybe depends on if you actually want to recycle cards or not)
100% add at least one Oracle

overall your deck is fine, my main problem with your deck is prob the inconsitency of Necrovalley + the inability to re-establish field or i should say GY control with Valley incase it gets popped by a cyclone, i think with a minor reconstruction, like the changes mentioned above, none of them are 100% necessary, except Oracle i think that one should be a staple but i might be mistaken, they just make sense for me but i don't play gravekeepers so you have to test them a bit or ask someone who does play gravekeepers, you should be able to reach KoG.

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

Цитата допису Keero Kamiya:

What reason does he have to lie ?

i'm not saying he's lying but most of the time ppl see patterns where there are none or are too superstitous and some others try to make stuff up for the fun of it and back it up with false claims, we're not in the position to check if what he says is right or wrong, he could have just said i played against BEWD 20 times in a row, we have no way of checking this, it would prove his point but would not be true, still i'm unable to say if he says the truth or not but if anything he's lying to himself then not to me also i'm honestly interested into why people think the game is rigged, what leads them to believe x, y or z.

[♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥]

Of course, they are rigged, ever wonder why neos fusion deck never bricked despite the fact that they have 3 useless monsters on their deck? Also, the brand-new red-eyes deck too, 6 useless monsters but always draw the fusion cards on their first turn.
Konami rigged the game in order for pay-to-win deck win even more game. If you are not paying for them, they will keep matching you with your bad match-up. It is very easy from the developer standpoint to know what deck counter what, what card is better against what card.

[Orochi Samurai]

Цитата допису Diệt chủng khựa:

Of course, they are rigged, ever wonder why neos fusion deck never bricked despite the fact that they have 3 useless monsters on their deck? Also, the brand-new red-eyes deck too, 6 useless monsters but always draw the fusion cards on their first turn.
Konami rigged the game in order for pay-to-win deck win even more game. If you are not paying for them, they will keep matching you with your bad match-up. It is very easy from the developer standpoint to know what deck counter what, what card is better against what card.

^ This is total BS, I play red eyes and believe me, you do NOT always draw red eyes fusion, its likely to get on the first turn sure thanks to red eyes insight but not always and as for the "paired with bad match ups" nonsense, how does that work? If the game was rigged that way then would everyone always be paired with their bad match up? Noone would progress if this were the case, you have had a bout of bad luck nothing more, nothing less.

PTW decks are not the be all and end all of Duel Links, there are some far stronger F2P decks that smash them to pieces, Six Samurai for example.

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

Цитата допису MagmaticMike:

^ This is total BS, I play red eyes and believe me, you do NOT always draw red eyes fusion, its likely to get on the first turn sure thanks to red eyes insight but not always and as for the "paired with bad match ups" nonsense, how does that work? If the game was rigged that way then would everyone always be paired with their bad match up? Noone would progress if this were the case, you have had a bout of bad luck nothing more, nothing less.

PTW decks are not the be all and end all of Duel Links, there are some far stronger F2P decks that smash them to pieces, Six Samurai for example.

This.

I think the main problem ppl have is this, they think that just bc 20 ppl open up with a similiar hand against them (in a 20 cards deck format with 3 copies of all mandatory cards) that they always open this hand, they don't see the other 40 duels where they bricked before, neither do they care, it's just more convenient to say something is rigged, it's the TCG equivalent to he's cheating, that doesn't count, from FPS games, it's just there to comfort themselfes into believing they did nothing wrong, that there is absolutely nothing they could have done to prevent this and to direct some anger towards something that is completely out of their hands.

I'm just wondering if they cringe at the superstitious bs they wrote if they ever come back to read this in the future.