Duel Links is actually rigged

[Cotton Hill]

so i know this really isnt anything new. people already know that drawing and starting hands are rigged in favor of rarity in cards. this isnt about that.

this is about how the game forces you to play against unfavorable opponents to make you lose.
what made me want to test this is because of recent duels ive been getting matched up against.
heres what happend and heres what i found.

so i was playing a gravekeeper necrovally anti meta deck. and i climbed up to like platnium 3. no problem, but then i started to plateau. i started facing opponents using different wacky decks that were not consistent at all, and seems to be perfect counters to what i had conveniently.

so i decided to switch it up. i started to play lava golem ammazon burn. AS SOON as i switched to that deck. 10 times in a row i faced mirror matches with wevil lava golem. keep in mind i havent faced lava golem not even ONCE my whole climb through platinum. but out of nowhere the game matches me up with mirror matches and other slow player burn decks as soon as i try????

then i switched back to using the old deck. and then everything went back to normal. and im still getting matched up against counters.

in conclusion this game is an absolute rigged. no matter what you do your gonna get forced to lose.

dont even try to play ranked seriously its a joke.

[Cotton Hill]

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MagmaticMike eredeti hozzászólása:

^ This is total BS, I play red eyes and believe me, you do NOT always draw red eyes fusion, its likely to get on the first turn sure thanks to red eyes insight but not always and as for the "paired with bad match ups" nonsense, how does that work? If the game was rigged that way then would everyone always be paired with their bad match up? Noone would progress if this were the case, you have had a bout of bad luck nothing more, nothing less.

PTW decks are not the be all and end all of Duel Links, there are some far stronger F2P decks that smash them to pieces, Six Samurai for example.

This.

I think the main problem ppl have is this, they think that just bc 20 ppl open up with a similiar hand against them (in a 20 cards deck format with 3 copies of all mandatory cards) that they always open this hand, they don't see the other 40 duels where they bricked before, neither do they care, it's just more convenient to say something is rigged, it's the TCG equivalent to he's cheating, that doesn't count, from FPS games, it's just there to comfort themselfes into believing they did nothing wrong, that there is absolutely nothing they could have done to prevent this and to direct some anger towards something that is completely out of their hands.

I'm just wondering if they cringe at the superstitious bs they wrote if they ever come back to read this in the future.

bruh your delusional. konami has always made it so that certain cards just end up in your hand more than others.
remember amazoness princess, and onslaught. even when limited the first time they always were able to search or open up on the first turn. same with every other deck they forced into the meta like fur hire where they always had beat first to search for wiz.

its not even funny. now konami is gonna lock cyber dragon and cyber twin dragon is a new structure deck, and its gonna be just like red eyes and neos.

its a free to play game so its not crazy to assume there are certain decks and cards that just show up at a higher rate because they forced it to get more cash. they have to make profit because the game is free. they make decks good so everyone buys it. then they nerf it.

[GabineteMcPoint]

Flats eredeti hozzászólása:

||eXz|| _sNTx // 構文 eredeti hozzászólása:

This.

I think the main problem ppl have is this, they think that just bc 20 ppl open up with a similiar hand against them (in a 20 cards deck format with 3 copies of all mandatory cards) that they always open this hand, they don't see the other 40 duels where they bricked before, neither do they care, it's just more convenient to say something is rigged, it's the TCG equivalent to he's cheating, that doesn't count, from FPS games, it's just there to comfort themselfes into believing they did nothing wrong, that there is absolutely nothing they could have done to prevent this and to direct some anger towards something that is completely out of their hands.

I'm just wondering if they cringe at the superstitious bs they wrote if they ever come back to read this in the future.

bruh your delusional. konami has always made it so that certain cards just end up in your hand more than others.
remember amazoness princess, and onslaught. even when limited the first time they always were able to search or open up on the first turn. same with every other deck they forced into the meta like fur hire where they always had beat first to search for wiz.

its not even funny. now konami is gonna lock cyber dragon and cyber twin dragon is a new structure deck, and its gonna be just like red eyes and neos.

its a free to play game so its not crazy to assume there are certain decks and cards that just show up at a higher rate because they forced it to get more cash. they have to make profit because the game is free. they make decks good so everyone buys it. then they nerf it.

You do realice how awfully complicated it would be to program certain cards to be more likely to be drawn than others and to keep that list updated for the current selling decks.

Konami's strategy is easier, they make decks more consistent.

For instance, the odds of Red-Eyes to open with either Red-Eyes Fusion or with Red-Eyes Insight assuming they run 3 copies of each AND they go first (so only 4 cards in hand) is almost 80%.

The odds of opening with either Amazoness Princess to search Onslaught or Onslaught itself (or to open with one copy on Neos Fusion or any card on that matter as long as you run 3) is slightly over 50%.

You have 50% chance to open with any card as long as you run 3 copies, and if you go second that chance goes up to 60%!

It's just the way luck works, it's not a conspiracy to give P2W decks better odds. They just give them better cards and ways to search them more frecuently. Konami doesn't need to do anything hidden, they just force you to buy structure decks to get 3 copies of escential cards.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

gabrielmaine14 eredeti hozzászólása:

Flats eredeti hozzászólása:

bruh your delusional. konami has always made it so that certain cards just end up in your hand more than others.
remember amazoness princess, and onslaught. even when limited the first time they always were able to search or open up on the first turn. same with every other deck they forced into the meta like fur hire where they always had beat first to search for wiz.

its not even funny. now konami is gonna lock cyber dragon and cyber twin dragon is a new structure deck, and its gonna be just like red eyes and neos.

its a free to play game so its not crazy to assume there are certain decks and cards that just show up at a higher rate because they forced it to get more cash. they have to make profit because the game is free. they make decks good so everyone buys it. then they nerf it.

You do realice how awfully complicated it would be to program certain cards to be more likely to be drawn than others and to keep that list updated for the current selling decks.

Konami's strategy is easier, they make decks more consistent.

For instance, the odds of Red-Eyes to open with either Red-Eyes Fusion or with Red-Eyes Insight assuming they run 3 copies of each AND they go first (so only 4 cards in hand) is almost 80%.

The odds of opening with either Amazoness Princess to search Onslaught or Onslaught itself (or to open with one copy on Neos Fusion or any card on that matter as long as you run 3) is slightly over 50%.

You have 50% chance to open with any card as long as you run 3 copies, and if you go second that chance goes up to 60%!

It's just the way luck works, it's not a conspiracy to give P2W decks better odds. They just give them better cards and ways to search them more frecuently. Konami doesn't need to do anything hidden, they just force you to buy structure decks to get 3 copies of escential cards.

Except we already know that Konami's shuffles are influenced by rarity. Beat and Princess are both Ultra Rare cards. When they're key cards in the deck (and there aren't a ton of other Ultra/Super rare cards in the deck), they have a higher chance of being drawn.

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MagmaticMike eredeti hozzászólása:

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

Of course, they are rigged, ever wonder why neos fusion deck never bricked despite the fact that they have 3 useless monsters on their deck? Also, the brand-new red-eyes deck too, 6 useless monsters but always draw the fusion cards on their first turn.
Konami rigged the game in order for pay-to-win deck win even more game. If you are not paying for them, they will keep matching you with your bad match-up. It is very easy from the developer standpoint to know what deck counter what, what card is better against what card.

^ This is total BS, I play red eyes and believe me, you do NOT always draw red eyes fusion, its likely to get on the first turn sure thanks to red eyes insight but not always and as for the "paired with bad match ups" nonsense, how does that work? If the game was rigged that way then would everyone always be paired with their bad match up? Noone would progress if this were the case, you have had a bout of bad luck nothing more, nothing less.

PTW decks are not the be all and end all of Duel Links, there are some far stronger F2P decks that smash them to pieces, Six Samurai for example.

Your 3-years old logic failed you. The majority of Duel Links players are F2P when you consider the fact is nearly all the deck that gets to KOG are P2W or very expensive decks. So basically, you can make a F2P deck that destroyed meta-deck, like me with my Aquaactress deck, I recently got to DL.20 on the World Champion with a 10-game winning streak. But guess what, Konami rigged the game again, matching me with Yubel constantly although Yubel is out of the meta already, you may think at DL.20 and above, you will see a lot of meta deck, but nope, Konami are protecting them by matching them with other decks, not deck that they are losing a lot with.

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gabrielmaine14 eredeti hozzászólása:

Flats eredeti hozzászólása:

bruh your delusional. konami has always made it so that certain cards just end up in your hand more than others.
remember amazoness princess, and onslaught. even when limited the first time they always were able to search or open up on the first turn. same with every other deck they forced into the meta like fur hire where they always had beat first to search for wiz.

its not even funny. now konami is gonna lock cyber dragon and cyber twin dragon is a new structure deck, and its gonna be just like red eyes and neos.

its a free to play game so its not crazy to assume there are certain decks and cards that just show up at a higher rate because they forced it to get more cash. they have to make profit because the game is free. they make decks good so everyone buys it. then they nerf it.

You do realice how awfully complicated it would be to program certain cards to be more likely to be drawn than others and to keep that list updated for the current selling decks.

Konami's strategy is easier, they make decks more consistent.

For instance, the odds of Red-Eyes to open with either Red-Eyes Fusion or with Red-Eyes Insight assuming they run 3 copies of each AND they go first (so only 4 cards in hand) is almost 80%.

The odds of opening with either Amazoness Princess to search Onslaught or Onslaught itself (or to open with one copy on Neos Fusion or any card on that matter as long as you run 3) is slightly over 50%.

You have 50% chance to open with any card as long as you run 3 copies, and if you go second that chance goes up to 60%!

It's just the way luck works, it's not a conspiracy to give P2W decks better odds. They just give them better cards and ways to search them more frecuently. Konami doesn't need to do anything hidden, they just force you to buy structure decks to get 3 copies of escential cards.

For the person who doesn't know anything about programming like yourself, I would tell you something that it is insanely easy to programmed some card to be drawn more than others.

[Satanyonok]

Busty Demoness eredeti hozzászólása:

Beat and Princess are both Ultra Rare cards.

Beat is SR.

[adri]

i face people using mechanics ancient 4400 fusion i cant survive they win 1 turn how i can beat that cant use trap cards or magic his atack is too high same with sincro six samurai

[Orochi Samurai]

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

Your 3-years old logic failed you.

Woah! Insults, mature...

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

The majority of Duel Links players are F2P when you consider the fact is nearly all the deck that gets to KOG are P2W or very expensive decks.

If people pay to boost the power of their deck, that is purely to give them an edge and is not to guarentee a win. and if I must I will give you a link to all current F2P KoG decks, of which there are dozens.

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

So basically, you can make a F2P deck that destroyed meta-deck, like me with my Aquaactress deck, I recently got to DL.20 on the World Champion with a 10-game winning streak. But guess what, Konami rigged the game again, matching me with Yubel constantly although Yubel is out of the meta already, you may think at DL.20 and above, you will see a lot of meta deck, but nope, Konami are protecting them by matching them with other decks, not deck that they are losing a lot with.

You are seeing a lot of Yubel because of the Dlvl you are at, Dlvl 20 is about as far as a player using Yubel can get, and that is where they will stay if they don't change deck and believe me, there are a lot of them so of course it's flooded with them also, if you went on a long losing streak against them and DIDN'T change deck, that's on you buddy.

EDIT:

Also...

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

Yubel is out of the meta already

^ This i completely disagree with, a fully flushed out F2P version of this deck is still one of the most challenging decks to compete with in duel links.

[Orochi Samurai]

Adri eredeti hozzászólása:

i face people using mechanics ancient 4400 fusion i cant survive they win 1 turn how i can beat that cant use trap cards or magic his atack is too high same with sincro six samurai

Decklist?

[Orochi Samurai]

Busty Demoness eredeti hozzászólása:

Except we already know that Konami's shuffles are influenced by rarity. Beat and Princess are both Ultra Rare cards. When they're key cards in the deck (and there aren't a ton of other Ultra/Super rare cards in the deck), they have a higher chance of being drawn.

This, is also a lie, the only way this would happen is if the player is cheating in which case, shame on them.

Also, Best is SR =P

A constant pattern with games like these where luck is a huge factor, is if when things don't go a players way, they come up with algorithms or mechanics that DO NOT exist to try and justify their bad luck and it is simply... Nonsense.

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MagmaticMike eredeti hozzászólása:

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

Your 3-years old logic failed you.

Woah! Insults, mature...

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

The majority of Duel Links players are F2P when you consider the fact is nearly all the deck that gets to KOG are P2W or very expensive decks.

If people pay to boost the power of their deck, that is purely to give them an edge and is not to guarentee a win. and if I must I will give you a link to all current F2P KoG decks, of which there are dozens.

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

So basically, you can make a F2P deck that destroyed meta-deck, like me with my Aquaactress deck, I recently got to DL.20 on the World Champion with a 10-game winning streak. But guess what, Konami rigged the game again, matching me with Yubel constantly although Yubel is out of the meta already, you may think at DL.20 and above, you will see a lot of meta deck, but nope, Konami are protecting them by matching them with other decks, not deck that they are losing a lot with.

You are seeing a lot of Yubel because of the Dlvl you are at, Dlvl 20 is about as far as a player using Yubel can get, and that is where they will stay if they don't change deck and believe me, there are a lot of them so of course it's flooded with them also, if you went on a long losing streak against them and DIDN'T change deck, that's on you buddy.

EDIT:

Also...

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

Yubel is out of the meta already

^ This i completely disagree with, a fully flushed out F2P version of this deck is still one of the most challenging decks to compete with in duel links.

Dude, most decks in KOG are meta, pay-to-win deck, no debate here.
If you check the most played card, Yubel wasn't even on the list. I changed my deck back to amazoness and guess what, I started facing red-eye, six-sam again.

Do you even understand the concept of "Pay to win" is?
Anything that gives players just a slight advantage by paying money is considered to "pay to win". In this game, the more expensive deck you have, the greater chance you are at winning, NO CONTEST. Also, remember the skill "Kaiba Corp Bling"? That looks like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ "pay to win" to me.

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

Diệt chủng khựa eredeti hozzászólása:

Dude, most decks in KOG are meta, pay-to-win deck, no debate here.
If you check the most played card, Yubel wasn't even on the list. I changed my deck back to amazoness and guess what, I started facing red-eye, six-sam again.

Do you even understand the concept of "Pay to win" is?
Anything that gives players just a slight advantage by paying money is considered to "pay to win". In this game, the more expensive deck you have, the greater chance you are at winning, NO CONTEST. Also, remember the skill "Kaiba Corp Bling"? That looks like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ "pay to win" to me.

Are you mad?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DuelLinks/search/?q=f2p%20kog&restrict_sr=1 here enjoy all the f2p KoG decks, no argument, no debate, no superstituos bs, just straight up facts.

You appearently lack the understanding of p2w, pay 2 win, PAY 2 WIN not PAY 4 ADVANTAGE or PAY 4 CONVENIENCE, pay 2 win means you have to pay to even compete, items that are only obtainable by paying real money that outclass any regular non buyable items and this is not the case at all, Subterrors is free to play friendly only requires one box 9k gems at max if you get super unlucky, enjoy your KoG if you're not braindead, Darklords are f2p friendly, Six Sams are, Metaphys is, you lost sight of what p2w actually is and bc of ppl like you who throw the term p2w around like it's a new way of saying hello the term loses meaning and impact.

KaibaCorp Bling got nerfed so that point is completely irrelevant and to all those very, very, intellectual and smart people believing rarity increases draw chance, how come i never start with my Red Eyes Fusion in duels where i use my Red Eyes deck? I did pay for it, it's f*cking prismatic yet i always have to use Insight to search it, must be my mistake, must be a f*cking glitch in the matrix huh? Also higher chance to draw UR cards based on the deck type you play? Do you guys know how programming works? Do you have any idea how hard it is to implement sh*t like this? For every single "p2w" deck? How did you think oh this sentence right here makes totally sense, i'm totally on to something, Konami better pay me money or i share all your dirty secrets like wtf is wrong with you guys?
Let me simplify this for you guys:
You'd need a database containing all the rarities and cards under certain rarities, then you have to check decks for Archetypes (which is impossible btw but let's assume they do) so code checks for how many cards of a specific archetype you have in your deck, 7 Neos related cards, ok Neos archetype detected, then you need a database to feed the "p2w" meta-decks (a meta that Konami doesn't establish nor cares about outside of championships mind you, it's player generated), ok Neos has been found on the list, now give cards priorities, Neos Fusion=Priority 1 -if Prismatic=priority 0 (100% guaranteed draw on turn 1) and that times X (X=the amount of build enabling and/or defining cards) after that the code takes over the shuffle algorithm and places the right cards on top, player draws, player wins.
Sounds pretty damn stupid doesn't it? and if it sounds pretty reasonable to you then sorry but you have much bigger problems to worry about than how draws get decided in a card game.

[c Z p]

^hehehehe. Paid for non real cards. hehehehehe what a joke
+ has more than one DL accounts..

and then ppl say I got a problem with DL...

[Orochi Samurai]

Chris Zachary Potter eredeti hozzászólása:

^hehehehe. Paid for non real cards. hehehehehe what a joke

yeah so? Do we judge you about what you spend money on? Our money, we spend it on whatever the hell we want, I'm not sure what your getting at?

Chris Zachary Potter eredeti hozzászólása:

+ has more than one DL accounts..

and then ppl say I got a problem with DL...

Most people who play this game often, have more than one account. Its hardly uncommon...

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MagmaticMike eredeti hozzászólása:

Chris Zachary Potter eredeti hozzászólása:

^hehehehe. Paid for non real cards. hehehehehe what a joke

yeah so? Do we judge you about what you spend money on? Our money, we spend it on whatever the hell we want, I'm not sure what your getting at?

Chris Zachary Potter eredeti hozzászólása:

+ has more than one DL accounts..

and then ppl say I got a problem with DL...

Most people who play this game often, have more than one account. Its hardly uncommon...

Both prove something's quite (at least) wrong with them. Cheating and lying about their (wtf!!) gaming identity and paying money (or extra money on other non-free-game cases) to do what again? Just progress faster than others...?

And then they wanna talk and debate with people about stuff as equals....... -_-
Never really gonna happen that way.