can somebody explain to me how steelswarm stalker works?

[Milansta]

i thought his effect can prevent special summon of monsters like the fire king level 8i monster, or red eyes slash dragon...but it does not.Any idea why? am i missing something?

[Zoltrixer]

Do you mean the Steelswarm Sentinel? If so, from what I understand, it negates the effect of special summoned level 5+ monsters while they are on the field, since when they are in the graveyard or somewhere else, they are no longer a special summoned monster, but just a monster in the graveyard or wherever they are.

[Milansta]

Originally posted by Zoltrixer:

Do you mean the Steelswarm Sentinel? If so, from what I understand, it negates the effect of special summoned level 5+ monsters while they are on the field, since when they are in the graveyard or somewhere else, they are no longer a special summoned monster, but just a monster in the graveyard or wherever they are.

yes that one...but i dont ever recall triggering its effect its rly annoying...i expected to get a missed timing notification but nope...im rly confused in which situations is this card useful because its getting rly ridicilous

[Zoltrixer]

Originally posted by Milan:

Originally posted by Zoltrixer:

Do you mean the Steelswarm Sentinel? If so, from what I understand, it negates the effect of special summoned level 5+ monsters while they are on the field, since when they are in the graveyard or somewhere else, they are no longer a special summoned monster, but just a monster in the graveyard or wherever they are.

yes that one...but i dont ever recall triggering its effect its rly annoying...i expected to get a missed timing notification but nope...im rly confused in which situations is this card useful because its getting rly ridicilous

Its effect shouldn't be triggered because, unlike what I wrote in the first post, it doesn't negate the effect of special summoned level 5+ monsters, but it prevents it from being activated in the first place. So I think, for example, when your opponent summons Blue-Eyes Alternative, Dragon Spirit of White or the Blue-Eyes Twin Burst Dragon, none of them would be able to activate their effects, making them essentially just monsters with a lot of ATK and DEF.

[BG Loscar]

Did you mean Steelswarm Roach? If so, Roach can only stop the inherent special summon of a Lv5 or higher monsters.. if you see an open and close parenthesis in the monster's summoning condition. Their summoning can be negated by Roach.
Examples of monster whose summoning can be negated are Chaos Dragon Levianeer, Thunder Dragon Duo, Blue-Eyes Alternative, Cyber Dragon and many more..
Special summoning mechanic such as Synchro summoning of a Lv5 or higher or contact fusion can be negated as well..
Roach can not negate the special summoning of monsters that can start a chain or via an effect of a card.. Indicators are the colon ":" and semi-colon ";".
Example, Desperado, Fusion summon via a fusion spell..
I know there are TCG judges in the steam community so I hope the jump in this thread so they can explain it better than I did..

[Zoltrixer]

Originally posted by BG Loscar:

Did you mean Steelswarm Roach? If so, Roach can only stop the inherent special summon of a Lv5 or higher monsters.. if you see an open and close parenthesis in the monster's summoning condition. Their summoning can be negated by Roach.
Examples of monster whose summoning can be negated are Chaos Dragon Levianeer, Thunder Dragon Duo, Blue-Eyes Alternative, Cyber Dragon and many more..
Special summoning mechanic such as Synchro summoning of a Lv5 or higher or contact fusion can be negated as well..
Roach can not negate the special summoning of monsters that can start a chain or via an effect of a card.. Indicators are the colon ":" and semi-colon ";".
Example, Desperado, Fusion summon via a fusion spell..
I know there are TCG judges in the steam community so I hope the jump in this thread so they can explain it better than I did..

Oh, that card is probably what the opening poster meant. I thought it was Sentinel because the two cards he/she mentioned special summon themselves/other monsters when they are in the graveyard.

[EXO]

Originally posted by Milan:

i thought his effect can prevent special summon of monsters like the fire king level 8i monster, or red eyes slash dragon...but it does not.Any idea why? am i missing something?

If you are talking about Steelswarm Roach, it negates summons that does not start a chain link (Levianeer, cyber dragon, blue eyes alternative, synchros etc...) summons like fusions (using polymerazation or any other fusion spell) start chain links so does cannot be negated by Roach

[Daemonologist]

Steelswarm sentinel is a lvl3 that in attack position prevents activatable effects of lvl5+s and is a card used by the AI steelswarm stalker deck. It does not prevent special summons and has no trigger as it is a continuous effect.

Steelswarm roach is the rank 4 xyz that negates special summons of lvl5 monsters at the cost of materials, however it only negates the special summon of those that do not start a chain link.
Examples of what it can stop are blue eyes alternative dragon, synchro summons (excluding those done via card effect like urgent tuning or formula synchron), cyber dragon (the lvl5), chaos sorcerer, etc. It cannot negate fusion (except contact)/ritual summons like red eyes slash dragon as they are always done via card effects, and it cannot negate high avatar garunix as that also creates a chain link (i.e. you can respond to the summon effect before it attempts to special summon during resolution).

[electricwizard]

Roach is pretty useless.