Undo

[Axulfer]

Anyone else feel like this game should have an undo button? the fact they kept it out is poor design, like you misclick on an ability and now you are forced to sacrifice your strong dudes and summon a weak one, like that is not the other player skill you know, it is just aweful game design. otherwise I really enjoy the game, what do you guys think?

[Papa Shekels]

It is general consensus in games like this that a play is final once it is fully declared, the same way in the physical card game your play is made once you verbally say it (for activation) or the card is down on the field (for playing). Or how a move in chess is final once you set the piece down in its next position. Otherwise, it would be far too easy for people to play stupid mind games or waste your time with a fake and then undo the move to see your reaction, or to just do that whenever they think of a better play after already choosing

[Axulfer]

You misunderstand, this applies only to certain abilities, like ones where your monster has an ability that at the end of the turn you can use a tuner and non-tuner monster to syncro summon, you accidentally click to use the ability and then you are forced to continue, nothing has been played on the field and if you took it back the enemy would be none the wiser. You also cannot compare this to the real game or chess, because those involve either physically moving something then releasing your hand, or saying words, here it is super easy to misclick, it is like not taking your hand off a chess piece, when you activate the ability you moved the piece, but if your hand never left it you can move the piece back. Get it now?

[BG Loscar]

I've played this game for more than a year (collectively) and I've only misclicked ONCE (so at least for me, it is NOT EASY to misclick)
I guess since Konami knows that the number of people who MISCLICKS are irrelevant, they didn't add the undo feature on "effects" (summoning with out using effects can be undone though).. That's just my hunch, I could be completely WRONG with the idea.

[EXO]

I mean, you literally have to tap or click on Activate Effect, if you know what you are doing then you don't need a undo button, if you misplay don't blame the game for not having an option to undo your mistake. I have done terrible plays that i would like to take back, yet i don't think is poor design from the game, i think is poor decision making from me.

[Step Sis Proof Appliances]

It sucks when it happens, but I would just take your time making your plays to minimize mistakes.

[treuhander]

Card games don't tend to have an Undo button. It ruins the fun/strategic aspect if decisions aren't final.

[Axulfer]

Fair points, I suppose it is just unfortunate since most of the game is luck based, that you spend time on strategy and then get screwed, but I guess it is also pretty funny. I usually play while doing homework so there I cannot ever give my full attention, but honestly when you have played this game for years like I have, sometimes you just want some feel good stuff added. Like I would love for a way to 'code' your auto-duel bot, like if you have these cards do this, mostly because the game AI is not smart enough to use my decks properly, now that is just the price of not playing yourself, but still it would be nice

[Papa Shekels]

Originally posted by AxulferVA:

Like I would love for a way to 'code' your auto-duel bot, like if you have these cards do this, mostly because the game AI is not smart enough to use my decks properly, now that is just the price of not playing yourself, but still it would be nice

Pretty sure the auto-duel bots are specifically designed to sometimes make you lose. Yesterday I lost to a level 20 kaiba, and it took a while for me to realize what happened. The AI used the claw of hermos to equip a red-eyes black dragon sword to some level 3 normal monster the ENEMY controlled, so I got hit by a 5000 beater and for the first time in history his stop defense spell actually came in handy since I had an obnoxious celtic guardian stopping him beforehand.

[Axulfer]

yeah, I feel that way as well, I find any abilities that allow people to attack directly when the opponent still has monster the bot will just never activate it. I have never had anything as bad as you happen though, that is just crazy

[Papa Shekels]

If you want to see other poor examples, try auto dueling with a superheavy samurai deck. The AI throws so hard it's not even funny

[GoreTiger]

I don't think we should have an undo button, but I DO think there should be an "Are you sure?" confirmation if you go to make a move that doesn't make general sense.


For example I was trying to playing ranked at work, Had my Slash dragon out against a blue eyes. I played claw of hermos and forged red eyes sword. I was trying to duel with one thumb while working and when I went to equip it onto my slash dragon instead...I equiped it onto the blue eyes.


Ironically enough slash'es effect activated and destroyed the blue eyes with the sword lmao.

[EXO]

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

I don't think we should have an undo button, but I DO think there should be an "Are you sure?" confirmation if you go to make a move that doesn't make general sense.


For example I was trying to playing ranked at work, Had my Slash dragon out against a blue eyes. I played claw of hermos and forged red eyes sword. I was trying to duel with one thumb while working and when I went to equip it onto my slash dragon instead...I equiped it onto the blue eyes.


Ironically enough slash'es effect activated and destroyed the blue eyes with the sword lmao.

What do you consider general sense move? Every duelist have different ways of playing and different strategies, there should not be a "are you sure" option. Same as the Undo button if you know what you are doing and being careful, then you don't need it.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by EXO:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

I don't think we should have an undo button, but I DO think there should be an "Are you sure?" confirmation if you go to make a move that doesn't make general sense.


For example I was trying to playing ranked at work, Had my Slash dragon out against a blue eyes. I played claw of hermos and forged red eyes sword. I was trying to duel with one thumb while working and when I went to equip it onto my slash dragon instead...I equiped it onto the blue eyes.


Ironically enough slash'es effect activated and destroyed the blue eyes with the sword lmao.

What do you consider general sense move? Every duelist have different ways of playing and different strategies, there should not be a "are you sure" option. Same as the Undo button if you know what you are doing and being careful, then you don't need it.

Originally posted by EXO:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

I don't think we should have an undo button, but I DO think there should be an "Are you sure?" confirmation if you go to make a move that doesn't make general sense.


For example I was trying to playing ranked at work, Had my Slash dragon out against a blue eyes. I played claw of hermos and forged red eyes sword. I was trying to duel with one thumb while working and when I went to equip it onto my slash dragon instead...I equiped it onto the blue eyes.


Ironically enough slash'es effect activated and destroyed the blue eyes with the sword lmao.

What do you consider general sense move? Every duelist have different ways of playing and different strategies, there should not be a "are you sure" option. Same as the Undo button if you know what you are doing and being careful, then you don't need it.

Originally posted by EXO:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

I don't think we should have an undo button, but I DO think there should be an "Are you sure?" confirmation if you go to make a move that doesn't make general sense.


For example I was trying to playing ranked at work, Had my Slash dragon out against a blue eyes. I played claw of hermos and forged red eyes sword. I was trying to duel with one thumb while working and when I went to equip it onto my slash dragon instead...I equiped it onto the blue eyes.


Ironically enough slash'es effect activated and destroyed the blue eyes with the sword lmao.

What do you consider general sense move? Every duelist have different ways of playing and different strategies, there should not be a "are you sure" option. Same as the Undo button if you know what you are doing and being careful, then you don't need it.

General sense as in when you have a powerup card that 99% of players would put on their monster but for whatever reason click to put it on their opponents. Like my situation. 99% of the time you're not going to put your red eyes sword on your opponent's monster, So the game asks "are you sure?" to make sure that's what you want to do.

Everyone makes mistakes now and then. The are you sure option doesn't actually harm anything about the game. There is no logically negative reason to not include it other then people wanting to scoff and say "Oh well you should be more careful!"

[EXO]

Well, to follow your example of a equip spell, there is a card called Eternal Rest, it destroys all monsters equipped with equip spells, so if you are going to use that card, then is a good move to use the equip spell on an enemy monster. See how a 'General sense' move changes based on your strategy? it all depends on your deck and your strategy, which is exactly why a 'Are you sure' function cannot be added.

[Step Sis Proof Appliances]

Not that it's really a big issue but I feel like the other issue with an "are you sure" option is it gives people another way to waste the timer if they wanted to be ♥♥♥♥♥.