What's the best way to beat Blue Eyes?

[Elzeruth]

I'm really struggling to beat blue eyes with my harpie deck and it doesn't help that 50% of the players I play against are blue eyes players. Any tips?

[Cig Bock]

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

Buster Blader, the Dragon Destroyer Swordsman Effect:

1 "Buster Blader" + 1 Dragon monster
Must be Fusion Summoned. Cannot attack directly. Gains 1000 ATK/DEF for each Dragon monster your opponent controls or is in their GY. Change all Dragon monsters your opponent controls to Defense Position, also Dragon monsters in your opponent's possession cannot activate their effects. If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage.

Yeah Blue Eyes totally can combat this effect with 2 Effect Monsters both of which are Dragon. The only thing Blue Eyes can do against Buster Blader is hope they don't get the Fusion out or have stuff to remove it once it's summoned, not 2 effect monsters that can't combat the Fusion. Also Burst doesn't destroy him he banishes him so please read card effects for once

i think he mixed up the 2k6 atk with the 2k8 atk fusion one

i kinda feel like bb is like a 50-50 against bwed bcs of consistency (moreover i only have 1 bb fusion lol), even for a 20 cards deck if im not open up a bb/search + whelp/fusion its going to be tough especially by the time ive done my stall they already have karma ready

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Publicado originalmente por Cig Bock:

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

Buster Blader, the Dragon Destroyer Swordsman Effect:

1 "Buster Blader" + 1 Dragon monster
Must be Fusion Summoned. Cannot attack directly. Gains 1000 ATK/DEF for each Dragon monster your opponent controls or is in their GY. Change all Dragon monsters your opponent controls to Defense Position, also Dragon monsters in your opponent's possession cannot activate their effects. If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage.

Yeah Blue Eyes totally can combat this effect with 2 Effect Monsters both of which are Dragon. The only thing Blue Eyes can do against Buster Blader is hope they don't get the Fusion out or have stuff to remove it once it's summoned, not 2 effect monsters that can't combat the Fusion. Also Burst doesn't destroy him he banishes him so please read card effects for once

i think he mixed up the 2k6 atk with the 2k8 atk fusion one

i kinda feel like bb is like a 50-50 against bwed bcs of consistency (moreover i only have 1 bb fusion lol), even for a 20 cards deck if im not open up a bb/search + whelp/fusion its going to be tough especially by the time ive done my stall they already have karma ready

You should probably try and get another BB Fusion, don't want your only piece of leverage to be gone

Also that's BB's biggest problem in general, you can try and up consistency with searchers or use some Dragon tuner and Cards of Consonance

[GoreTiger]

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

Publicado originalmente por GoreTiger:

People keep saying use buster blader, and while yes he is the best option when fighting dragons, the Blue eye's decks have 2 Monsters that can destroy him without even having to battle.
1. Alternative
2. Burst.
Buster blader isn't the end-all doomsday machine people claim it is against bewb decks.

Buster Blader, the Dragon Destroyer Swordsman Effect:

1 "Buster Blader" + 1 Dragon monster
Must be Fusion Summoned. Cannot attack directly. Gains 1000 ATK/DEF for each Dragon monster your opponent controls or is in their GY. Change all Dragon monsters your opponent controls to Defense Position, also Dragon monsters in your opponent's possession cannot activate their effects. If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage.

Yeah Blue Eyes totally can combat this effect with 2 Effect Monsters both of which are Dragon. The only thing Blue Eyes can do against Buster Blader is hope they don't get the Fusion out or have stuff to remove it once it's summoned, not 2 effect monsters that can't combat the Fusion. Also Burst doesn't destroy him he banishes him so please read card effects for once

Everything I said was correct, So what if I said destroy instead of Banished?
Considering how frequent Karma cut is as well, There went your fusioned buster blader.
Most Bewb deck users I've run into also use alot of Floodgate as well.
So like I said before, BB is not the end-all savior against bewb deck users.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Publicado originalmente por GoreTiger:

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

Buster Blader, the Dragon Destroyer Swordsman Effect:

1 "Buster Blader" + 1 Dragon monster
Must be Fusion Summoned. Cannot attack directly. Gains 1000 ATK/DEF for each Dragon monster your opponent controls or is in their GY. Change all Dragon monsters your opponent controls to Defense Position, also Dragon monsters in your opponent's possession cannot activate their effects. If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage.

Yeah Blue Eyes totally can combat this effect with 2 Effect Monsters both of which are Dragon. The only thing Blue Eyes can do against Buster Blader is hope they don't get the Fusion out or have stuff to remove it once it's summoned, not 2 effect monsters that can't combat the Fusion. Also Burst doesn't destroy him he banishes him so please read card effects for once

Everything I said was correct, So what if I said destroy instead of Banished?
Considering how frequent Karma cut is as well, There went your fusioned buster blader.
Most Bewb deck users I've run into also use alot of Floodgate as well.
So like I said before, BB is not the end-all savior against bewb deck users.

No you didn't, you just said that alternate and burst counter Buster Blader without reading's it's effects or knowing it's monsters, you were clearly wrong but won't admit it.

Do you know what quick play spell is, or a backrow removal card like Storm or MST or Cosmic Cyclone, there is a reason why backrow removal exists and is nerfed heavily, Karma Cut doesn't do anything unless it's used on the Fusion or BB if that's ever placed on the field which even then you should have multiple copies of. Karma Cut isn't a boogyman just like Floodgate it's an easy to counter card just like BEWD is an easy to counter deck or hell a beatable deck

Nobody called Buster Blader the end-all savior, it's a counter. It ain't perfect it ain't good it's a counter a direct counter, quit exaggerating and read card effects while you're at it

[GoreTiger]

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

Publicado originalmente por GoreTiger:

Everything I said was correct, So what if I said destroy instead of Banished?
Considering how frequent Karma cut is as well, There went your fusioned buster blader.
Most Bewb deck users I've run into also use alot of Floodgate as well.
So like I said before, BB is not the end-all savior against bewb deck users.

No you didn't, you just said that alternate and burst counter Buster Blader without reading's it's effects or knowing it's monsters, you were clearly wrong but won't admit it.

Do you know what quick play spell is, or a backrow removal card like Storm or MST or Cosmic Cyclone, there is a reason why backrow removal exists and is nerfed heavily, Karma Cut doesn't do anything unless it's used on the Fusion or BB if that's ever placed on the field which even then you should have multiple copies of. Karma Cut isn't a boogyman just like Floodgate it's an easy to counter card just like BEWD is an easy to counter deck or hell a beatable deck

Nobody called Buster Blader the end-all savior, it's a counter. It ain't perfect it ain't good it's a counter a direct counter, quit exaggerating and read card effects while you're at it

uh, Burst and alternative DO counter regular buster blader..
The person I quoted in response to did not mention it's fusioned form, all they said was Buster blader which is what I addressed.
So once again on this form you rushed to shoot your mouth off but instead shot yourself in the foot instead.

Congrats on being one of those people I literally just got done describing in another post lmao.

[Satanyonok]

Publicado originalmente por GoreTiger:

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

No you didn't, you just said that alternate and burst counter Buster Blader without reading's it's effects or knowing it's monsters, you were clearly wrong but won't admit it.

Do you know what quick play spell is, or a backrow removal card like Storm or MST or Cosmic Cyclone, there is a reason why backrow removal exists and is nerfed heavily, Karma Cut doesn't do anything unless it's used on the Fusion or BB if that's ever placed on the field which even then you should have multiple copies of. Karma Cut isn't a boogyman just like Floodgate it's an easy to counter card just like BEWD is an easy to counter deck or hell a beatable deck

Nobody called Buster Blader the end-all savior, it's a counter. It ain't perfect it ain't good it's a counter a direct counter, quit exaggerating and read card effects while you're at it

uh, Burst and alternative DO counter regular buster blader..
The person I quoted in response to did not mention it's fusioned form, all they said was Buster blader which is what I addressed.
So once again on this form you rushed to shoot your mouth off but instead shot yourself in the foot instead.

Congrats on being one of those people I literally just got done describing in another post lmao.

The person you quoted in response said "1000 atk for every dragon in the field and in the graveyard." and that's only fusion BB's effect. You lost.

[EXO]

Publicado originalmente por GoreTiger:

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

No you didn't, you just said that alternate and burst counter Buster Blader without reading's it's effects or knowing it's monsters, you were clearly wrong but won't admit it.

Do you know what quick play spell is, or a backrow removal card like Storm or MST or Cosmic Cyclone, there is a reason why backrow removal exists and is nerfed heavily, Karma Cut doesn't do anything unless it's used on the Fusion or BB if that's ever placed on the field which even then you should have multiple copies of. Karma Cut isn't a boogyman just like Floodgate it's an easy to counter card just like BEWD is an easy to counter deck or hell a beatable deck

Nobody called Buster Blader the end-all savior, it's a counter. It ain't perfect it ain't good it's a counter a direct counter, quit exaggerating and read card effects while you're at it

uh, Burst and alternative DO counter regular buster blader..
edThe person I quoted in response to did not mention it's fusioned form, all they said was Buster blader which is what I address.
So once again on this form you rushed to shoot your mouth off but instead shot yourself in the foot instead.

Congrats on being one of those people I literally just got done describing in another post lmao.

Message from the person you quoted in your response:
"Hmm I have a anti blu eyes deck, is BUSTER BLADE. 1000 atk for every dragon in the field and in the graveyard."
He is referring to the fusion monster, since the normal Buster Blader only gains 500 attack per dragon.
Congrats on being too lazy to read :)

[Satanyonok]

Publicado originalmente por JediMasterDraco:

My advice is just report the jackasses spaming it.

Report them for what? For playing a deck you hate? Then you are a jackass,

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Publicado originalmente por GoreTiger:

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

No you didn't, you just said that alternate and burst counter Buster Blader without reading's it's effects or knowing it's monsters, you were clearly wrong but won't admit it.

Do you know what quick play spell is, or a backrow removal card like Storm or MST or Cosmic Cyclone, there is a reason why backrow removal exists and is nerfed heavily, Karma Cut doesn't do anything unless it's used on the Fusion or BB if that's ever placed on the field which even then you should have multiple copies of. Karma Cut isn't a boogyman just like Floodgate it's an easy to counter card just like BEWD is an easy to counter deck or hell a beatable deck

Nobody called Buster Blader the end-all savior, it's a counter. It ain't perfect it ain't good it's a counter a direct counter, quit exaggerating and read card effects while you're at it

uh, Burst and alternative DO counter regular buster blader..
The person I quoted in response to did not mention it's fusioned form, all they said was Buster blader which is what I addressed.
So once again on this form you rushed to shoot your mouth off but instead shot yourself in the foot instead.

Congrats on being one of those people I literally just got done describing in another post lmao.

Buster Blader Effect:
Gains 500 ATK for each Dragon monster your opponent controls or is in their GY

Hmm interesting he said Buster Blader gaining 1000 ATK for every dragon on the field and GY but Buster Blader's own effect distinctly says 500, almost as if he clearly wasn't referring to Buster but rather Buster Blader the Fusion because that's the main boss monster of that deck. But do please go on about how I "shoot myself in the foot" while you admit to not reading anything or understanding anything

[GoreTiger]

I do not own the fusioned version, Nor have I ever actually seen it played, so I do not know it's card effects or conditions.

But considering the person I quoted only said buster BLADE, and not buster blader or buster fusion, I figured they had just misquoted the original Buster Blader card. Especially considering that if you change the 1000 they said to 500, They've described the Original Buster Blader more accurately in their comment then the fusioned version.
But of course the ankle humper exo shows up. That's really adorable.

My comments still stand, Buster blader original is not the save-all against bewb decks. And speaking of both of those blader cards, very rarely do I ever see them played to begin with.

As a Dragon user myself, out of all my playtime I've only seen someone use Buster blader once. (And as soon as they did, I neutralized him with shadow spell).
other then that I've never seen anyone play either of the cards. Not in ranked, Not in the kaiba corps.
So for all this advice about using both of those cards, either nobody is taking it or the advice isn't as solid as you all are trying to make it out to be, because nobody is USING it from what i've personally seen.

[EXO]

Publicado originalmente por GoreTiger:

I do not own the fusioned version, Nor have I ever actually seen it played, so I do not know it's card effects or conditions.

But considering the person I quoted only said buster BLADE, and not buster blader or buster fusion, I figured they had just misquoted the original Buster Blader card. Especially considering that if you change the 1000 they said to 500, They've described the Original Buster Blader more accurately in their comment then the fusioned version.
But of course the ankle humper exo shows up. That's really adorable.

My comments still stand, Buster blader original is not the save-all against bewb decks. And speaking of both of those blader cards, very rarely do I ever see them played to begin with.

As a Dragon user myself, out of all my playtime I've only seen someone use Buster blader once. (And as soon as they did, I neutralized him with shadow spell).
other then that I've never seen anyone play either of the cards. Not in ranked, Not in the kaiba corps.
So for all this advice about using both of those cards, either nobody is taking it or the advice isn't as solid as you all are trying to make it out to be, because nobody is USING it from what i've personally seen.

I knew something like this was going to happen, classic bs excuse because you lost.
Also, you could look up the cards in google or in the game before making a statement, but i guess you are too lazy to do that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[GoreTiger]

Publicado originalmente por EXO:

Publicado originalmente por GoreTiger:

I do not own the fusioned version, Nor have I ever actually seen it played, so I do not know it's card effects or conditions.

But considering the person I quoted only said buster BLADE, and not buster blader or buster fusion, I figured they had just misquoted the original Buster Blader card. Especially considering that if you change the 1000 they said to 500, They've described the Original Buster Blader more accurately in their comment then the fusioned version.
But of course the ankle humper exo shows up. That's really adorable.

My comments still stand, Buster blader original is not the save-all against bewb decks. And speaking of both of those blader cards, very rarely do I ever see them played to begin with.

As a Dragon user myself, out of all my playtime I've only seen someone use Buster blader once. (And as soon as they did, I neutralized him with shadow spell).
other then that I've never seen anyone play either of the cards. Not in ranked, Not in the kaiba corps.
So for all this advice about using both of those cards, either nobody is taking it or the advice isn't as solid as you all are trying to make it out to be, because nobody is USING it from what i've personally seen.

I knew something like this was going to happen, classic bs excuse because you lost.
Also, you could look up the cards in google or in the game before making a statement, but i guess you are too lazy to do that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How young and naive do you really have to be to claim someone "lost" a discussion on this forum? lmao.

If you want to go that route, Like I said the person I quoted described closer to the buster blader I described then the one YOU'RE describing, So I technically wasn't in the wrong.
So stop patting yourself on the back little ankle humper.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Publicado originalmente por GoreTiger:

I do not own the fusioned version, Nor have I ever actually seen it played, so I do not know it's card effects or conditions.

But considering the person I quoted only said buster BLADE, and not buster blader or buster fusion, I figured they had just misquoted the original Buster Blader card. Especially considering that if you change the 1000 they said to 500, They've described the Original Buster Blader more accurately in their comment then the fusioned version.
But of course the ankle humper exo shows up. That's really adorable.

My comments still stand, Buster blader original is not the save-all against bewb decks. And speaking of both of those blader cards, very rarely do I ever see them played to begin with.

As a Dragon user myself, out of all my playtime I've only seen someone use Buster blader once. (And as soon as they did, I neutralized him with shadow spell).
other then that I've never seen anyone play either of the cards. Not in ranked, Not in the kaiba corps.
So for all this advice about using both of those cards, either nobody is taking it or the advice isn't as solid as you all are trying to make it out to be, because nobody is USING it from what i've personally seen.

The amount of dancing around a simple "I was wrong"

If you don't know anything about the deck when why are you making comments about it, like some basic knowledge at the most is required of the deck. What does it matter if you don't own the cards, I don't own any of them and I still have knowledge of what they do, or I probably own some of them and just don't care enough about them

If you switch 1000 to 500 you still don't have Buster Blader the original cause their's an entire wall of text for the Fusion, the ATK is just the first line of it. Also how did they describe the original more accurately, they said 1000 ATK not 500, the ATK is the only thing the original had. When somebody says Buster Blader they mean the deck or the Fusion because those are the 2 important things, rarely will somebody talk about the original unless somebody want's a nostalgia trip

They aren't an end all savior nobody but you is calling them that and just cause you barely see them doesn't mean they exist

Your playtime doesn't mean anything to any of this, its your experience not anybody else's, 1 person can say they face an amount of Buster Blader but the other says they face none, people already say they face decks I don't even face. None of it means anything

The most simple thing you could've done was admit your wrong, you clearly are wrong the person you quoted didn't describe Buster Blader the original and you admitted to not reading any card effects or knowing any cards

[Cig Bock]

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

You should probably try and get another BB Fusion, don't want your only piece of leverage to be gone :portalbirdhead:

Also that's BB's biggest problem in general, you can try and up consistency with searchers or use some Dragon tuner and Cards of Consonance

im halfway on the second box and the desire sensor keeps on bleeping, i think the box knew and put the only purple card on the bottom of the box lol. also im planning to dig for rescue rabbit for my gladiator deck, are stick and chair good for BB draw power?

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Publicado originalmente por Cig Bock:

Publicado originalmente por Burning Victory:

You should probably try and get another BB Fusion, don't want your only piece of leverage to be gone

Also that's BB's biggest problem in general, you can try and up consistency with searchers or use some Dragon tuner and Cards of Consonance

im halfway on the second box and the desire sensor keeps on bleeping, i think the box knew and put the only purple card on the bottom of the box lol. also im planning to dig for rescue rabbit for my gladiator deck, are stick and chair good for BB draw power?

If you are talking about those 2 Star Seraph cards then maybe but I don't think it can help much because of how the 2 cards work and also how they are gonna fit into the deck. Don't think they are worth it much for a BB deck